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'[PIC]: Programmer for notebook with no serial port'
2003\08\28@033850 by Tal

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Hello,

I am looking for a programmer that works well with notebooks that don't
have serial ports. I have tried the WARP programmer with two kinds of
USB/Serial adapter but managed to complete a chip programming about once
every ten tries and the software seem to be buggy (e.g. improper
handling of the unused configuration bits of 16F876A).

I also tried the Picstart but it works only with actual USB ports and
does not work with port above COM4 (the USB to serial I am using
presents itself as COM6).

Any recommendation for a programmer and/or USB to Serial adapter will be
greatly appreciated.

BTW, I am running Windows XP.

Thanks,

Tal

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2003\08\28@034843 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Any recommendation for a programmer and/or USB to Serial
> adapter will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW, I am running Windows XP.

The last year or so I developed and used my Wisp628 programmer with just
that: XP and a standard USB-to-serial converter. I tried it with an
FT232BM and that worked too.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2003\08\28@035257 by

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Tal wrote:

> I am looking for a programmer that works well with notebooks that don't
> have serial ports....
>... Any recommendation for a programmer and/or USB to Serial adapter will be
> greatly appreciated.

Hi.

I'm using Win 2000 , a USB -> serial conv and Wisp628.
Works just fine. At least as fine as when using the
direct COM1 or 2...

(I'm having some problems with 18F3220 (have to power-off
both the PIC and the Wisp between flashes) but I have this
problem with the standard COM port also...)

Jan-Erik.

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2003\08\28@070455 by Bob Ammerman

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I don't know the details, but I believe it is possible to force the USB
serial port to have a low COM port number. This might require some careful
registry editing.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems

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2003\08\28@071738 by Peter Moreton

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I only rejoined the PIClist at the end of this discussion, so forgive me
if I am misreading what the original question was, but, my (Compaq)
laptop has no serial port, so I used a cheap USB<=>Serial adaptor to
program PIC's using a PICstart+. I used the WinXP Device Manager to
change port number to be COM2:

This can be done for USB<=>Serial Adaptors using the 'Prolific' and
'FT232' chipsets, and probably most others.

Regards, Peter Moreton


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2003\08\28@092813 by Micro Eng

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Mine is COM2...works just fine under XP and ICD1


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>Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:00:53 -0400
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>I don't know the details, but I believe it is possible to force the USB
>serial port to have a low COM port number. This might require some careful
>registry editing.
>
>Bob Ammerman
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2003\08\28@094352 by Larry G. Nelson Sr.

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You could probably use an ICD2 with its USB interface for programming
either in circuit or in socket.


At 12:16 PM 9/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
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2003\08\29@042107 by Peter Crowcroft
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> Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:38:39 -0700
>From:    Tal <spamBeGonetalspamBeGonespamZAPTA.COM>
>Subject: [PIC]: Programmer for notebook with no serial port
>
>I am looking for a programmer that works well with notebooks that don't
>have serial ports. I have tried the WARP programmer with two kinds of
>USB/Serial adapter but managed to complete a chip programming about once
>every ten tries and the software seem to be buggy (e.g. improper
>handling of the unused configuration bits of 16F876A).


Our Kit 128 for Flash chips ONLY is powered just from the USB port. XP ok.
No adaptors; no external power supply. The FT232BM chip is presoldered on
board. Comes mounted in a nice box. See it at

http://www.kitsrus.com/pdf/k128intro.pdf

http://www.kitsrus.com/pdf/k128.pdf

If you also want to program non-flash chips then you will need an external
power supply. Get Kit 150. See it at

http://www.kitsrus.com/pdf/k150.pdf


>I also tried the Picstart but it works only with actual USB ports and
>does not work with port above COM4 (the USB to serial I am using
>presents itself as COM6).

In my tests the USB port has been at COM3 and COM5. It does not matter
where it is. In the MicroPro software you just set the COM port to whatever
it is.

Tony Nixon who designed the Kit is very rapidly responsive to comments,
bugs and criticisms and can always be contacted by email.


regards,

Peter Crowcroft
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2003\08\30@020141 by Tal

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Hi Peter,

Thanks for the information. It looks very interesting. I download the
software few days ago and played with it (without hardware).

I do have few questions if you don't mind.

1. Does the Kit 128 supports in-circuit programming ? I did not notice
any ICSP connector.

2. Does the Kit 128 comes with the box shown in the picture ?

3. Are the three kits (128, 149B, 150) also available assemble and
tested ?

4. Do all the three kits (128, 149B, 150) support programming of 16F877A
and 12F675 ?

Thanks,

Tal


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