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2001\08\02@101445 by Lawrence Lile

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Thanks to all who replied.

It seems there are several strong votes for APC.  I got a few statistics on
a particular board quote from several outfits:

These are all double sided boards on 0.062" FR4 with 1 oz copper, plated
through holes

AP Circuits http://www.apcircuits.com  "Proto1"  No component silkscreen, only
rectangular boards,  1 business day turns, $155

AP Circuits "Proto2"  Component Silkscreen, any board shape, 2 week turns
minimum 1 panel (approx 11" X 11")  ~$350

AP Circuits requires a minimum order of $300 average per month to open a
business account, which knocks me into the "COD" category.

Advanced Circuits http://www.4pcb.com   Component silkscreen, any shape, 3-day turn
$118
1-day turns    $418

Advanced Circuits is uncomfortable offerring business accounts for
"infrequent orders under $500" a category I fall sqarely into, ordering a
board like this about once a month.

Hughes Electronics  http://www.hugheselectronics.com   Minimum order 6" x 9" panel,
$366 for twice as many boards as I need, 3 day turn, any shape, component
silkscreen.  OK with small-lot  business accounts

AP Circuits "Proto1" is a pretty good bang for the buck, considering the
speed of turnaround.  If you can live without a component silkscreen, and
with a rectangular board (or cut them yourself) but need a quick turn, they
are the top choice IMHO.

So far Advanced Circuits has the best deal for a real production-type
prototype, with a silkscreen and any board shape, if you can live with a
3-day turn.

I'm still grumpy that none of these guys want to deal with me on a business
account.  I order similar quantities from Digikey, Mouser, Newark, and
everybody else with a convenient verbal purchase order.  All of the circuit
board houses seem to snub anybody with my level of volume.  Oh well, I'll
quit complaining and get back to work designing boards.

--Lawrence Lile

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2001\08\03@090753 by Olin Lathrop

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> I'm still grumpy that none of these guys want to deal with me on a
business
> account.  I order similar quantities from Digikey, Mouser, Newark, and
> everybody else with a convenient verbal purchase order.  All of the
circuit
> board houses seem to snub anybody with my level of volume.  Oh well, I'll
> quit complaining and get back to work designing boards.

I find business accounts are a hassle for low volume for me too as a
customer.  Setting one up usually requires bank references and lots of
paperwork that wastes a lot of time.  I find a business credit card usually
works very well.  No hassles, just supply the credit card number with the
order.  I have an American Express small business card, but I think other
companies offer similar things.  The other good thing is that American
Express will go to bat for you in case of problems.


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Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts
(978) 742-9014, spam_OUTolinTakeThisOuTspamembedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com

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