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2000\10\02@135942 by Andrew Kunz

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I have two lists running on my domains (rc-hydros.com and montanadesign.com) and
neither costs me 1 centa more than if I didn't have them.

A lot of the guys on this list are subscribed to spam_OUTpiclistTakeThisOuTspammontanadesign.com
already.

Andy








James Newton <.....jamesnewtonKILLspamspam@spam@PICLIST.COM> on 10/02/2000 01:41:09 PM

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Subject: Re: [PIC]:  Other mailing lists?








For several reasons (may I answer that in monthly installments?):

A) List server software (sans ads ala egroups) costs big bucks

B) There is more in common between AVR's and PIC's than there is
different... think about that, its true. There is certainly little
difference between SX's and PIC's.

C) You can't get the finest 1800 embedded engineers in the world
automatically subscribed at the start of the list. (Although I think we can
and would start this with people not subscribed to the AVR topic by default)

D) You don't have to learn how the new list runs or look for admins or
whatever.

E) Its address wouldn't be EraseMEPICListspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU... cough, cough, that is
MIT.EDU <GRIN>

F) You'd miss this admin group. Come on, you know you would... <VBG>

G) All you have to do to not see the additional traffic is click on
LISTSERVspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BAVR%5D> or (in other words) by sending SET PICLIST TOPICS: -[AVR] in the body of an
email to
@spam@LISTSERVKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
With an [SX]: topic it would be
KILLspamLISTSERVKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BSX%5D> and the truly PICish would never hear about Scenix again.

Neat huh?

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2000\10\02@152552 by Bill Westfield

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There is (or has been) an AVR list.  And a scenix list.  And an 8051 list
that is a least active if generally boring...

For some reason, the PICList is unusually "lively" - even the off-topic
emails seem to be more relevant and interesting than those that occur
(or have occurred) on other mailing lists.  I suspect it has a lot to
do with the PIC's broad market "niche" that spans students, hobbyists,
small and large businesses.  A lot of users of other microcomputer
architectures could benefit from the discussions that occur here on
algorithms, peripherals, business, manufacturing, and so on...

BillW

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2000\10\02@185532 by Bruce Cannon

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> A lot of the guys on this list are subscribed to TakeThisOuTpiclistEraseMEspamspam_OUTmontanadesign.com
> already.

But I don't understand WHY have another list for the same processor?  Seems
like extra work for readers, writers and admins.  To what advantage?  From a
consumer's point of view, having a lot of the brains in one place is a great
thing.  Yes, there is quite a bit of time spent bickering about protocol on
this list, but you'd think that could be solved administratively more easily
and effectively than starting new lists everywhere?

Bruce Cannon
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2000\10\03@075613 by Mark Willis

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Bruce Cannon wrote:
> But I don't understand WHY have another list for the same processor?  Seems
> like extra work for readers, writers and admins.  To what advantage?  From a
> consumer's point of view, having a lot of the brains in one place is a great
> thing.  Yes, there is quite a bit of time spent bickering about protocol on
> this list, but you'd think that could be solved administratively more easily
> and effectively than starting new lists everywhere?

I agree;

When interfacing from a microcontroller to another device (say an I2C or
SPI device, a 24LCxx, a 27C256, or a keyswitch), there's very little
difference between processors, in what you need the I/O pins to do.
Those extra clocks and pull-up resistors and so on are going to be the
same, whether you're using a PIC or a Scenix or an FPGA or ???

Also, when debugging any algorithm, the more eyes looking at your code,
the shallower the bugs.

 Mark

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2000\10\04@151109 by Peter L. Peres

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>Also, when debugging any algorithm, the more eyes looking at your code,
>the shallower the bugs.

You mean what was one bug turns out to be ten, but more evenly spread ?
;-) The piclist is not going the open source way anytime soon afaik. Most
disguised help requests veil the subject so much that extra prodding is
required to bring it out so as to be able to answer.

Peter

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