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2001\06\08@203146 by Bob Ammerman

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Just sent to change the subject from "Microchop Masters".

Sorry,

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2001\06\08@210356 by Mark Newland

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Ahh, and just when I was getting ready to talk all about my little itty
bitty axe and the choping I can do with it.

If you guys do have a group meeting, one of you will have to bring your
digital camera.  Snap some shots and post them on the web someplace so we
can all see how UGLY everyone is.  Maybe even have a contest.  We vote on
which picture looks like the biggest geek.

Bob Ammerman wrote:

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2001\06\08@212710 by Andy N1YEW

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i am a geek :) and proud of it

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2001\06\08@215416 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>If you guys do have a group meeting, one of you will have to bring your
>digital camera.  Snap some shots and post them on the web someplace so we
>can all see how UGLY everyone is.  Maybe even have a contest.  We vote on
>which picture looks like the biggest geek.

       Or better, anyone who has a digital camera, take a photo of you working in your mess...er...desk, with a pic project, hehehe


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'[PIC]: Microchip Masters'
2003\06\08@091733 by Olin Lathrop
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I recently found out that I need to attend the Microchip Masters
conference this year.  I'm looking for pointers and advice from people who
have experience with it.

I looked at the conference agenda and the list of courses, but the courses
didn't say in which slots they were given.  How are you supposed to plan
what to do when and avoid sigining up for courses taught at the same time?

Any other general advice and tips about the Masters?

I'm thinking of taking a few days off after the conference to do some
hiking and maybe backpacking somewhere within a few hours drive of
Pheonix.  I can read maps and check hiking info on the internet, and I've
got decent experience in hiking/backpacking, some of it in desert climates
(I don't need to be told to bring lots of water).  I would like to hear
suggestions of where to go and other local tips from people who have been
to this particular area.


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2003\06\08@105634 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 09:13 AM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I recently found out that I need to attend the Microchip Masters
>conference this year.  I'm looking for pointers and advice from people who
>have experience with it.
>
>I looked at the conference agenda and the list of courses, but the courses
>didn't say in which slots they were given.  How are you supposed to plan
>what to do when and avoid sigining up for courses taught at the same time?

They assign the slots based on your stated preferences, to meet their
constraints. If it's the same as last year it takes a lot of time and effort
to go through the options, optimize them for your desires, and then to
communicate that to them in their format. They no doubt apply some
automated program to spit out your personal agenda which they give you upon
arrival at the resort.

>Any other general advice and tips about the Masters?

The food is good. You'll meet some familiar faces. I still have not decided
whether I'll go or not this year. 600 engineers in a single room is
awesome. ;-)   Watch out for extra charges from the resort. They charged
me for stuff that was missing from the minibar (which I never opened),
didn't reverse it after being asked, but kept the form, and threw out
some $100 medicine I left in the room. The resort is generally good though.

>I'm thinking of taking a few days off after the conference to do some
>hiking and maybe backpacking somewhere within a few hours drive of
>Pheonix.  I can read maps and check hiking info on the internet, and I've
>got decent experience in hiking/backpacking, some of it in desert climates
>(I don't need to be told to bring lots of water).  I would like to hear
>suggestions of where to go and other local tips from people who have been
>to this particular area.

The Sonoran desert is interesting, but the temperatures are pretty high
that time of year. I've been to Death Valley in July, it was pretty hot
then.  Have you done the Grand Canyon?

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2003\06\08@173748 by Olin Lathrop

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> The Sonoran desert is interesting, but the temperatures are pretty high
> that time of year. I've been to Death Valley in July, it was pretty hot
> then.  Have you done the Grand Canyon?

Yes, I like the north rim better and it's a bit far from Pheonix.  I was
thinking about the mountains to the north and east of Pheonix.  I've never
been to those.


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2003\06\08@215053 by Steve Kosmerchock

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Olin,

I've never been to the Masters so I have nothing to say about that. Although the hotel is five minutes from my work in Tempe (Comtech EF Data), the area is not too bad, a mall for some shopping, dinner and movies.

For hiking, If you don't mind driving about 120 miles north, speed limit most of the way is 75MPH you could spend some time in Sedona. My wife, son and I just spent the weekend up their. The weather is beautiful, it peaked at about 84 degrees. Their is a nice creek to go fishing in and tons of hiking trails. Their is also helicopter, jeep and bi-plabe tours you can get. If the wallet would allow it, I would have stayed a few more days!! If you stay the night check out a place called "Sky Ranch Lodge", not the fanciest place but on a hill in the middle of town and pretty nice. If you do go to Sedona, then Flagstaff is 28 miles North of their, they have an old observatory called "Lowell Observatory". Pretty interesting stuff, at least to me, my wife and son were bored senseless. By the time you come here it should be around 110F, so most people here become "hermits", not leaving their caves unless it is early in the morning or late at night.

Hope this helps!!
Best of luck.
Steve

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Olin Lathrop <EraseMEolin_piclistspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTEMBEDINC.COM> wrote:
I recently found out that I need to attend the Microchip Masters
conference this year. I'm looking for pointers and advice from people who
have experience with it.

I looked at the conference agenda and the list of courses, but the courses
didn't say in which slots they were given. How are you supposed to plan
what to do when and avoid sigining up for courses taught at the same time?

Any other general advice and tips about the Masters?

I'm thinking of taking a few days off after the conference to do some
hiking and maybe backpacking somewhere within a few hours drive of
Pheonix. I can read maps and check hiking info on the internet, and I've
got decent experience in hiking/backpacking, some of it in desert climates
(I don't need to be told to bring lots of water). I would like to hear
suggestions of where to go and other local tips from people who have been
to this particular area.


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2003\06\08@230748 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 06:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Olin,
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>I've never been to the Masters so I have nothing to say about that.
>Although the hotel is five minutes from my work in Tempe (Comtech EF
>Data), the area is not too bad, a mall for some shopping, dinner and movies.

I heard a complaint or two from people who didn't have cars that they
felt trapped in the hotel, at least before/after the conference. Plenty
to keep you busy *during* it. There's a good Fry's across the street, but
not sure what else is within easy walking distance.

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2003\06\09@080245 by Dmitriy A. Kiryashov

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I'm planning to attend Masters this year as well.
Still unclear though how they assign classes.

WBR Dmitry.


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2003\06\09@093055 by Larry G. Nelson Sr.

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I go every year. You sign up for the classes that you want and they try to
schedule things as best they can. Until you get there you do not know what
you have. I have gotten most of what I asked for in the past. Plan on
buying the notes for all the sessions. You used to get it all for the
registration fee but they have been playing with how to best provide the
info. I paid for the full set last year. They are supposed to be available
on site to buy this year and I plan on getting them again.

Bring sun block if you plan on looking around.
Plan on minimal sleep as there is a lot to do.
The robot competition has been fun and I will do it again this year.
The new water park at the resort is now done and should be nice.
If you get to Sedona you have to do the pink jeep tours. I liked the Broken
Arrow trail.
Across the street from the hotel is a Frys and that is always worth the time.


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2003\06\09@123648 by Igor Pokorny

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What about Sedona?

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> The Sonoran desert is interesting, but the temperatures are pretty high
> that time of year. I've been to Death Valley in July, it was pretty hot
> then.  Have you done the Grand Canyon?

Yes, I like the north rim better and it's a bit far from Pheonix.  I was
thinking about the mountains to the north and east of Pheonix.  I've never
been to those.


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2003\06\09@124516 by Igor Pokorny

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Olin, if you are interested look at

http://www.pimaair.org/titan_01.htm

The visiting was very interisting at least for me.

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2003\06\09@124724 by Olin Lathrop

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> What about Sedona?

I don't know.  What is Sedona?


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2003\06\09@131838 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 12:47 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > What about Sedona?
>
>I don't know.  What is Sedona?

Very pretty. http://www.sedona.net/ http://www.visitsedona.com/

There is a lot of new-age stuff there, such as "Spiritual Consultants".

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2003\06\09@132327 by Bob Blick

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Spehro Pefhany said:

> Sedona.
> There is a lot of new-age stuff there, such as "Spiritual Consultants".

I'm a Capricorn, so I don't believe any of that ;-)

Cheers,

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2003\06\09@133655 by Igor Pokorny
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Olin,

i was late with my proposition. Steven Kosmerchock described Sedona in his
letter already. It's really nice place even though a bit expensive by my
meaning.

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2003\06\09@133658 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 01:23 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Spehro Pefhany said:
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> > Sedona.
> > There is a lot of new-age stuff there, such as "Spiritual Consultants".
>
>I'm a Capricorn, so I don't believe any of that ;-)

Yeah! Us, Richard Milhouse Nixon and that carpenter fellow who was born
on Dec. 25.

Check out the wide angle view: http://www.sedonawebcam.com/

Or for some new age stuff: http://www.lovesedona.com/

(It says stuff about quartz crystals, though I doubt they'd be suitable
for a PIC).

http://www.lovesedona.com/06b.htm

"The reason quartz is called the master stone is that it strengthens all
your energies in a very broad spectrum sort of way. In order to use a
quartz crystal to strengthen your energies, all you have to do is keep
it with you, or keep it close to where you spend some time. You don't
need to do anything special to the crystal in order to have its benefits.
For example, if you carry a quartz crystal point in your pocket, it will
act as a general amplifier that will strengthen all of your personal
energies at the same time."

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2003\06\09@150139 by John Hansen

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At 09:51 AM 6/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
 Watch out for extra charges from the resort. They charged
>me for stuff that was missing from the minibar (which I never opened),
>didn't reverse it after being asked, but kept the form,


I had this same problem, but I know how to avoid it this year.  In order to
save some money I went down to a convenience store a couple of blocks away
and bought a couple of six packs of diet coke.  When I drank them, I
disposed of the empties in my room.  Based on the bill I was presented
with, I'm almost certain that they calculated minibar usage based on the
empties, not on looking at the minibar.  They did remove the charge from my
room when I complained, but I'd rather not have to deal with them about
this issue, so this year I plan to dispose of empty cans somewhere outside
my room, not in the room itself.  I'm hopeful that this will fix the problem.

The master's was a wonderful experience (last year was my first year) and
well worth the money.  The quality of the courses is very uneven, ranging
for absolutely brilliant presentations to one that was a complete waste of
time (to be fair, the presenter on that course was not from
Microchip).  The food and drink were amazing... I don't know that I've ever
been to a conference that was as lavish in this department.  Be prepared
for relatively long, intellectually intensive days.  It is a good idea to
mix both presentation style and "hands-on" style classes.

John Hansen

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2003\06\09@150350 by Marc Nicholas

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On 6/9/03 1:20 PM, "Spehro Pefhany" <speffSTOPspamspamspam_OUTINTERLOG.COM> wrote:

> At 12:47 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>>> What about Sedona?
>>
>> I don't know.  What is Sedona?
>
> Very pretty. http://www.sedona.net/ http://www.visitsedona.com/
>
> There is a lot of new-age stuff there, such as "Spiritual Consultants".

Are they any good at exorcising the demons that cause PICs to fail? ;-)

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2003\06\09@181914 by Olin Lathrop

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> There is a lot of new-age stuff there, such as "Spiritual Consultants".

Oh, um, thanks, but I think I'll pass.


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2003\06\09@183404 by Olin Lathrop

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> "The reason quartz is called the master stone is that it strengthens all
> your energies in a very broad spectrum sort of way.

Yeah, if a large one falls on you maybe.  Good thing they provided such a
clear scientific explanation, in a vague sort of way <g>

> In order to use a
> quartz crystal to strengthen your energies, all you have to do is keep
> it with you, or keep it close to where you spend some time.

No problem, I've always got a few quartz crystals around.  But now I'm so
confused.  Should it be series or parallel resonant?  Is 4MHz better than
20?  HC-49 or something else?  Quick, I need to know before all my
energies are weakened!

> You don't
> need to do anything special to the crystal in order to have its
> benefits. For example, if you carry a quartz crystal point in your
> pocket, it will
> act as a general amplifier that will strengthen all of your personal
> energies at the same time."

Cool.  I've always wanted something I could carry in my pocket that
violated the laws of thermodynamcis.  And who said pet rocks are old
fashioned!?


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2003\06\09@183613 by Olin Lathrop

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> I had this same problem, but I know how to avoid it this year.  In
> order to save some money I went down to a convenience store a couple of
> blocks away and bought a couple of six packs of diet coke.  When I
> drank them, I disposed of the empties in my room.  Based on the bill I
> was presented
> with, I'm almost certain that they calculated minibar usage based on the
> empties, not on looking at the minibar.  They did remove the charge
> from my room when I complained, but I'd rather not have to deal with
> them about
> this issue, so this year I plan to dispose of empty cans somewhere
> outside my room, not in the room itself.  I'm hopeful that this will
> fix the problem.

I had a similar thing happen to me many years ago, and ever since then I
always refuse the minibar key at check in, and request that they make a
special note that I did so.  It's awful hard to claim I took something out
of the minibar when their own records show I never had the key.


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2003\06\09@184412 by David VanHorn

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>> You don't
>> need to do anything special to the crystal in order to have its
>> benefits. For example, if you carry a quartz crystal point in your
>> pocket, it will
>> act as a general amplifier that will strengthen all of your personal
>> energies at the same time."
>
>Cool.  I've always wanted something I could carry in my pocket that
>violated the laws of thermodynamcis.  And who said pet rocks are old
>fashioned!?

Amplification is not always a good thing.
If your chakras get beyond their -1db compression point they are in danger of becoming non-linear, and that will result in spurious kirlian emission.

You'll want to put some sort of filter on that amp, so you don't generate so much spiritual EMI.

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2003\06\09@224307 by Dale Botkin

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On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Olin Lathrop wrote:

> > In order to use a
> > quartz crystal to strengthen your energies, all you have to do is keep
> > it with you, or keep it close to where you spend some time.
>
> No problem, I've always got a few quartz crystals around.  But now I'm so
> confused.  Should it be series or parallel resonant?  Is 4MHz better than
> 20?  HC-49 or something else?  Quick, I need to know before all my
> energies are weakened!

Crikey...  I better get rid of all my 7.040 and 14.060MHz crystals,
before the wife loses interest!!

(QRP hams will understand this...)

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