Post by thread:[PIC]: Linux assembler options?

> My opinion is to stick to MPLAB under Windows. OK Olin, then meet his requirements. Discuss how to get a working Windows installation and MPLAB on a sigle 1.44MB floppy. For extra credit show how it can be done for no monetary cost. Weren't older versions of MPLAB just DOS programs? (until quite recently, even?) How about freeDOS and and older MPLAB, or are the older MPLABs hopeless when it comes to modern chips? Considering the amount of DOS that fit on old, uncompressed, floppies, you can probably fit an impressively usable system on a 1.4M floppy with "uncompress to ramdisk" technology. (In fact, I seem to recall doing that for my very first floppy-only laptop. I wonder where THAT is these days...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Sun, May 04, 2003 at 07:53:24PM -0700, William Chops Westfield wrote: > > My opinion is to stick to MPLAB under Windows. > > OK Olin, then meet his requirements. Discuss how to get a working Windows > installation and MPLAB on a single 1.44MB floppy. > > For extra credit show how it can be done for no monetary cost. > > Weren't older versions of MPLAB just DOS programs? (until quite recently, > even?) How about freeDOS and and older MPLAB, or are the older MPLABs > hopeless when it comes to modern chips? Considering the amount of DOS that > fit on old, uncompressed, floppies, you can probably fit an impressively > usable system on a 1.4M floppy with "uncompress to ramdisk" technology. (In > fact, I seem to recall doing that for my very first floppy-only laptop. I > wonder where THAT is these days...) Two strikes I think: 1) As you pointed out those older MPLABS don't have support for current chips. 2) As Microsoft loves to point out, DOS is not Windows. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Seems to me that a single-floppy linux-based microcontroller development environment would be a useful addition to those single-floppy distributions. Typically, applications are are linked against older, smaller libraries, as I understand it. And they compress the hell out of everything and uncompress to ramdisk, which means that you can always go to a second floppy if you REALLY need to... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 02:56:04PM -0700, William Chops Westfield wrote: > Seems to me that a single-floppy linux-based microcontroller development > environment would be a useful addition to those single-floppy distributions. > Typically, applications are are linked against older, smaller libraries, > as I understand it. And they compress the hell out of everything and > uncompress to ramdisk, which means that you can always go to a second > floppy if you REALLY need to... In a similar vein, I think that a Knoppix style development CD would be really cool. Something along the lines of integrating the latest gputils, jal (and its vim syntax highlighting files), and SDCC so that you can drop in the CD and have an instant development environment. So many projects, so little time. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu>

Thinking the same thing, and I intend to make my install available to anyone who wants it. But this will be CD-based. And it would be nice to offer options, so I'll put the different assemblers on there, and a few different programmers. Later, perhaps some of the other langs can be put on. Cheers, -Neil. On Monday 05 May 2003 16:56, William Chops Westfield scribbled: > Seems to me that a single-floppy linux-based microcontroller development > environment would be a useful addition to those single-floppy > distributions. Typically, applications are are linked against older, > smaller libraries, as I understand it. And they compress the hell out of > everything and uncompress to ramdisk, which means that you can always go to > a second floppy if you REALLY need to... > > BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu>