Post by thread:[PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC

The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. 1K of program memory. 72 bytes of RAM. 12 I/O PORTS. Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. Best regards, Steve Steven Kosmerchock Radio Frequency Systems Phoenix Arizona USA http://www.rfsworld.com -----Original Message----- From: WF [spam_OUTwfTakeThisOuTBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM To: .....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC Hello Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... Miguel Wisintainer

I will need 2000 pieces... Miguel ----- Original Message ----- From: Kosmerchock, Steve <Steve.KosmerchockKILLspamRFSWORLD.COM> To: <.....PICLISTKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC {Quote hidden}> The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. > 1K of program memory. > 72 bytes of RAM. > 12 I/O PORTS. > > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. > > > Best regards, > Steve > > > Steven Kosmerchock > Radio Frequency Systems > Phoenix Arizona USA > http://www.rfsworld.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WF [EraseMEwfspam_OUTTakeThisOuTBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM > To: PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC > > > Hello > > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... > > Miguel Wisintainer

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Kosmerchock, Steve wrote: > The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. > 1K of program memory. > 72 bytes of RAM. > 12 I/O PORTS. 2 level return stack :-(( 33 instructions :-(( 12 bit-word {Quote hidden}> > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. > > > Best regards, > Steve > > > Steven Kosmerchock > Radio Frequency Systems > Phoenix Arizona USA > http://www.rfsworld.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WF [RemoveMEwfTakeThisOuTBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM > To: PICLISTEraseME.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC > > > Hello > > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... > > Miguel Wisintainer > >

Hi! just find PIC core in VHDL for FPGA! maybe it's less expensive PIC if you need not only mcu but some sort of extra logic Good luck {Quote hidden}> > > The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. > > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. > > 1K of program memory. > > 72 bytes of RAM. > > 12 I/O PORTS. > 2 level return stack :-(( > 33 instructions :-(( > 12 bit-word > > > > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Steve > > > > > > Steven Kosmerchock > > Radio Frequency Systems > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > http://www.rfsworld.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WF [EraseMEwfBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM > > To: RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC > > > > > > Hello > > > > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... > > > > Miguel Wisintainer > > > > >

:) Are you sure? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tsvetan Usunov <RemoveMEusunovspam_OUTKILLspamOLIMEX.COM> To: <RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC {Quote hidden}> The Less Expensive PICs are those not manufactured by Microchip :) > > Tsvetan > --- > PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb > > ---------- > > From: WF <EraseMEwfspamspamBeGoneBLUSOFT.ORG.BR> > > To: > > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC > > Date: 27 ^mh 2000 c. 20:51 > > > > Hello > > > > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... > > > > Miguel Wisintainer > >

Bad for that don't use C... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Imre Bartfai <RemoveMErootKILLspamPROF.PMMF.HU> To: <PICLISTSTOPspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC {Quote hidden}> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Kosmerchock, Steve wrote: > > > The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. > > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. > > 1K of program memory. > > 72 bytes of RAM. > > 12 I/O PORTS. > 2 level return stack :-(( > 33 instructions :-(( > 12 bit-word > > > > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Steve > > > > > > Steven Kosmerchock > > Radio Frequency Systems > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > http://www.rfsworld.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WF [spamBeGonewfSTOPspamEraseMEBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM > > To: KILLspamPICLISTspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC > > > > > > Hello > > > > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... > > > > Miguel Wisintainer > > > >

I have a VHDL code for PIC microcontroller and I have implemented on Xilinx FPGA. For the basic 16c57 it takes around 344 LCA's on 4000 series. Even with the smallest FPGA (SPARTAN series) it will cost $5.00 to $7.00. then there is EEPROM to load the FPGA ($3.00 to $5.00). If you are looking for PIC type microcontroller at 2/3 of MICROCHIP price or less, take look at HOLTEK series of microcontrollers. HT48C10 (18 pin DIL) RISC type microcontroller 2.4V to 5.2V operating voltage On-Chip X-tal and RC oscillator One external INT WDT 2 8bit counters + one 16bit counter or 2 16bit counters 1k*14 ROM 64*8 RAM + 64*8 internal register RAM HALT/WAKE function 14bit TABLE read function 2 level subroutine nesting 63 instructions UNDER £0.60 for 1K. I have been using PIC controllers for about 8 years, now I am moving from PIC to HOLTEK products with greate sadness. Technically and development support MICROCHIP has been greate but the product price keep on creaping up. With HOLTEK I get an ICE + C-complier + IDE software for Under £150.00 ($225.00) (MICROCHIP £1200.00) HOLTEK Silicon is atleast 1/3 less than PIC even on 1off price. CHECK their WEB http://www.holtek.com Regards, Jay Xilinx consultant At 14:04 28/06/00 +0400, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>Hi! > >just find PIC core in VHDL for FPGA! >maybe it's less expensive PIC if you need not only mcu but some sort of >extra logic > >Good luck >> >> > The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. >> > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. >> > 1K of program memory. >> > 72 bytes of RAM. >> > 12 I/O PORTS. >> 2 level return stack :-(( >> 33 instructions :-(( >> 12 bit-word >> > >> > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Steve >> > >> > >> > Steven Kosmerchock >> > Radio Frequency Systems >> > Phoenix Arizona USA >> > http://www.rfsworld.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: WF [EraseMEwfEraseMEBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM >> > To: @spam@PICLIST@spam@spam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU >> > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC >> > >> > >> > Hello >> > >> > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... >> > >> > Miguel Wisintainer >> > >> > >> > > >

>If you are looking for PIC type microcontroller at 2/3 of MICROCHIP price >or less, take look at HOLTEK series of microcontrollers. > > >I have been using PIC controllers for about 8 years, now I am moving from >PIC to HOLTEK products with greate sadness. Technically and development >support MICROCHIP has been greate but the product price keep on creaping up. > >With HOLTEK I get an ICE + C-complier + IDE software for Under #150.00 >($225.00) (MICROCHIP #1200.00) > >HOLTEK Silicon is atleast 1/3 less than PIC even on 1off price. Holtek is not the only one PIC cloner. In 1999 we had visit from the Microchip's South European Sales office and we discuss about them. They claimed that the Taiwan court already have closed few Holtek Fabs, but new ones have been opened immediately under different names. We discussed they price policy and my question was why they keep the pirces in Europe so high for volume quantities - we always get better quotations for Microchip's products from Asian distributors. The answer was some mumbling about the different market segments and so on, but actually I got that they just trying to charge as much as they can so in the different regions the prices are different. In Asia the competition and the volumes are in times bigger than in Europe, so they can't sell there expensive. Another issue is that the Asian stockists and distributors work with smaller commissioning than the European ones. BTW the price of original Microchip's PIC16C505 have to be around $0,45 in volume - for compare the PIC cloner we use sells PIC16C56 at this price. Keeping the prices high is the best way to grow up your competition. It was very surprising for me to understood that the old and ugly PIC16C5X series makes the main share in Microchip sales. Tsvetan --- PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb

Who manufacture the ICE + C-complier + IDE software? I'm will produce 1000 boards month, and U$1,00 makes difference... Miguel Wisintainer ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay.R.Vijay-Indra <spamBeGonejayKILLspamUBIQUITY-AUDIO.CO.UK> To: <.....PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC I have a VHDL code for PIC microcontroller and I have implemented on Xilinx FPGA. For the basic 16c57 it takes around 344 LCA's on 4000 series. Even with the smallest FPGA (SPARTAN series) it will cost $5.00 to $7.00. then there is EEPROM to load the FPGA ($3.00 to $5.00). If you are looking for PIC type microcontroller at 2/3 of MICROCHIP price or less, take look at HOLTEK series of microcontrollers. HT48C10 (18 pin DIL) RISC type microcontroller 2.4V to 5.2V operating voltage On-Chip X-tal and RC oscillator One external INT WDT 2 8bit counters + one 16bit counter or 2 16bit counters 1k*14 ROM 64*8 RAM + 64*8 internal register RAM HALT/WAKE function 14bit TABLE read function 2 level subroutine nesting 63 instructions UNDER #0.60 for 1K. I have been using PIC controllers for about 8 years, now I am moving from PIC to HOLTEK products with greate sadness. Technically and development support MICROCHIP has been greate but the product price keep on creaping up. With HOLTEK I get an ICE + C-complier + IDE software for Under #150.00 ($225.00) (MICROCHIP #1200.00) HOLTEK Silicon is atleast 1/3 less than PIC even on 1off price. CHECK their WEB http://www.holtek.com Regards, Jay Xilinx consultant At 14:04 28/06/00 +0400, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>Hi! > >just find PIC core in VHDL for FPGA! >maybe it's less expensive PIC if you need not only mcu but some sort of >extra logic > >Good luck >> >> > The PIC16C505 is a inexpensive PIC. >> > On board RC oscillator 14 PDIP package. >> > 1K of program memory. >> > 72 bytes of RAM. >> > 12 I/O PORTS. >> 2 level return stack :-(( >> 33 instructions :-(( >> 12 bit-word >> > >> > Check price in large QTY. Should be pretty cheap. >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Steve >> > >> > >> > Steven Kosmerchock >> > Radio Frequency Systems >> > Phoenix Arizona USA >> > http://www.rfsworld.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: WF [TakeThisOuTwf.....TakeThisOuTBLUSOFT.ORG.BR] >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:52 AM >> > To: TakeThisOuTPICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU >> > Subject: [PIC]: LESS EXPENSIVE PIC >> > >> > >> > Hello >> > >> > Which is the Less Expensive PIC of Market? (Not with 8 Pins)... >> > >> > Miguel Wisintainer >> > >> > >> > > >

With regards to....... "I have been using PIC controllers for about 8 years, now I am moving from PIC to HOLTEK products with greate sadness. Technically and development support MICROCHIP has been greate but the product price keep on creaping up. With HOLTEK I get an ICE + C-complier + IDE software for Under #150.00 ($225.00) (MICROCHIP #1200.00) HOLTEK Silicon is atleast 1/3 less than PIC even on 1off price. CHECK their WEB http://www.holtek.com Regards, Jay Xilinx consultant" Hi Am I right in saying that Holtek don't do a part with a uart ? Regards, Dan