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2001\04\05@014909 by Javier

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Hi
Do you know how ticket machines detect the values of the inserted coins ?
I4ve heard inductive sensors, is that right ? Can I build the sensor with 2
coils ?
I want to do this kind of project with a PIC any hints ?
Bye
Javier

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2001\04\07@010026 by John

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Hello Javier & PIC.ers,

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>Date:    Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:32:15 -0300
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>Hi
>Do you know how ticket machines detect the values of the inserted coins ?
>I4ve heard inductive sensors, is that right ? Can I build the sensor with 2
>coils ?

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I've had recent exposure to these.
It looks like the coin is tested inductively for go/no-go.
The clever bit is that the acceptor mechanism holds a reference coin, the
exact same as the intended type. The characteristics have to match.

I suppose a multiple-coin type has places for many reference coins.
..

>I want to do this kind of project with a PIC any hints ?
>Bye
>Javier
>

Unrelatedly, but someone lately was looking for help with an air-flow
sensor.
The dandiest design I've seen uses a (ptc) thermistor in the flow
(I *know*,  I *know* those things are very non-linear...)
Anyhows, this little matter was gotaround by configuring the part in a
simple feedback cct. that maintained the ugly thermistor at a constant
temperature.... >> ie constant PD.

As flow changes, the current required to maintain the PD changes, and this
is measurable & linear. Well, I suppose it is if you assume the heat
transfer
rate is proportional to flow rate, maybe only true in laminar conditions,
or maybe only true in turbulence, or, ... what is this leading to...


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2001\04\07@074849 by Anthony Ryan

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I fix coin acceptors all of the time. Coils are arranged to measure the
thickness, diameter, and material (2 measurements) content of the coins
inserted.  A value is obtained for each parameter which is then compared to
values stored in non-volatile memory. If the value is within the "windows"
stored in the memory, the coin is accepted. A further piezo "knock" sensor
is used to measure how hard the metal is. Currently 16 coins can be
validated.

If you only want to use two inductors, you will have major problems with
accepting false coins.

Regards


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2001\04\09@014637 by Javier

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If I go with the 2 coil method, how schould I dispose them, values ?
How is it possible for one coil to sense the diameter?
Any website that describes a simple coin acceptor?
I plan to build  a toy not a commercial product, so there is no problem with
fake coins!!
Thanks a lot
Javier


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