Post by thread:[PIC]: ICD migration to target app problems

I have been developing my appliation using the ICD module, and so now I need to remove the ICD from it (unplug the RJ connector) and run in standalone so to speak. So I programmed the chip in my Picstart, disconnected the cable and the chip won't run. I even tried a "new" chip that hadn't been programmed at all yet. So is there something that I am missing on this? I did try removing the NOP at the first also, but didnt make a differnce. Also put the ICD back in, programs and runs fine under those conditions. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

When you program chip, make sure you check OFF the debug mode in the option window. Rick Micro Eng wrote: {Quote hidden}> I have been developing my appliation using the ICD module, and so now I need > to remove the ICD from it (unplug the RJ connector) and run in standalone so > to speak. > > So I programmed the chip in my Picstart, disconnected the cable and the chip > won't run. > > I even tried a "new" chip that hadn't been programmed at all yet. > > So is there something that I am missing on this? I did try removing the NOP > at the first also, but didnt make a differnce. > > Also put the ICD back in, programs and runs fine under those conditions. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email .....listservKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Debug mode disabled... There isnt anything in the code, besides the first NOP that needs to be there for ICD...right? It needs to be there for the jump for the ICD debugger code...I think _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Yes. That's all..that's right. Why aren't you programming it in the ICD header and removing it from the header and plug it into the main board? Rick Micro Eng wrote: {Quote hidden}> Debug mode disabled... > > There isnt anything in the code, besides the first NOP that needs to be > there for ICD...right? It needs to be there for the jump for the ICD > debugger code...I think > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email EraseMElistservspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

My dev board is just one of the Microengineering labs units, and I soldered the RJ jack to it, wired the couple of wires to the PORTB connetions, so there isn't a header. You can't just program the chip using the ICD can you? The debugger is loaded automatically to the target isnt it? {Quote hidden}>From: "Rick C." <@spam@rixyKILLspamVISUALLINK.COM> >Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list <KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> >To: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICD migration to target app problems >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:28:11 -0400 > >Yes. That's all..that's right. Why aren't you programming it in the ICD >header and removing it from the header and plug it into the main board? >Rick > >Micro Eng wrote: > > > Debug mode disabled... > > > > There isnt anything in the code, besides the first NOP that needs to be > > there for ICD...right? It needs to be there for the jump for the ICD > > debugger code...I think > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > email spamBeGonelistservspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email TakeThisOuTlistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu

The default setting is for the debug code to be programmed into the chip - but it can be deselected in the "ICD options" dialog and the chip programmed when you are ready to run your chip as a stand-alone system. >>> micro_engEraseME.....HOTMAIL.COM 04/11/02 09:17AM >>> My dev board is just one of the Microengineering labs units, and I soldered the RJ jack to it, wired the couple of wires to the PORTB connetions, so there isn't a header. You can't just program the chip using the ICD can you? The debugger is loaded automatically to the target isnt it? {Quote hidden}>From: "Rick C." <EraseMErixyVISUALLINK.COM> >Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list <RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU> >To: RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICD migration to target app problems >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:28:11 -0400 > >Yes. That's all..that's right. Why aren't you programming it in the ICD >header and removing it from the header and plug it into the main board? >Rick > >Micro Eng wrote: > > > Debug mode disabled... > > > > There isnt anything in the code, besides the first NOP that needs to be > > there for ICD...right? It needs to be there for the jump for the ICD > > debugger code...I think > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email EraseMElistservspamspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestSTOPspamspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu

> -----Original Message----- > From: Micro Eng [SMTP:spamBeGonemicro_engSTOPspamEraseMEHOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:18 PM > To: KILLspamPICLISTspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICD migration to target app problems > > My dev board is just one of the Microengineering labs units, and I > soldered > the RJ jack to it, wired the couple of wires to the PORTB connetions, so > there isn't a header. You can't just program the chip using the ICD can > you? The debugger is loaded automatically to the target isnt it? > Yes, you can just program the PIC with the ICD, just don't check the "debug" box on the programming window. It's painfully slow though! Regards Mike -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu

> My dev board is just one of the Microengineering labs units, and I soldered > the RJ jack to it, wired the couple of wires to the PORTB connetions, so > there isn't a header. You can't just program the chip using the ICD can > you? You sure can! >The debugger is loaded automatically to the target isnt it? No, it isn't! All you need to do is make sure the "Enable Debug Mode" checkbox is cleared in the ICD options dialog. Then after programming you should be able to disconnect the ICD from the target and go. One thing to watch out for: when using the ICD it will drive the MCLR line appropriately. You should make sure that MCLR will be high on the target with the ICD disconnected. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList @spam@piclist-unsubscribe-request@spam@spam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Ammerman [SMTP:.....rammermanspam_OUTADELPHIA.NET] > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:58 PM > To: TakeThisOuTPICLIST.....TakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICD migration to target app problems > > > Yes, you can just program the PIC with the ICD, just don't check the > "debug" > > box on the programming window. It's painfully slow though! > > No slower than programming to debug, in my experience. > No it's not, but that itself is painfully slow compared to e.g. a Pictstart and especialy a Pro-mate. Not knocking the ICD though, it's got me out of many a nasty situation! Mike -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList TakeThisOuTpiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspamspammitvma.mit.edu

OK...I've got it 'working' in the sense that I just did a simple flash the LED thing to make sure. And it works. Proves that the chip will and does run doing this. However, when I put the full program in with the I2C interface, the I2C doesn't respond anymore. I am suspecting either watchdog or interupts. I'm goint to add some stuff in to turn on LED depending on the routine its in, see where it goes from there. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestRemoveMEmitvma.mit.edu