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2003\06\14@232654 by Charles Craft

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www.microchip.com/1010/suppdoc/refernce/golden/index.htm

PIC18C MCU Family Reference Manual

PIC18C Reference Manual
Complete PIC18C Reference Manual 7/14/00 (16.73 Mb)

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Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing and binding it yourself? Was this part of that discussion of nailing the pages together a few weeks ago?

Is the word "golden" in the URL some internal Microchip name for this family of processors?

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2003\06\15@003248 by Jinx

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> PIC18C Reference Manual
>  Complete PIC18C Reference Manual 7/14/00 (16.73 Mb)
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> Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing
> and binding it yourself? Was this part of that discussion of nailing
> the pages together a few weeks ago?

The 18F452 manual (DS39564B) is a puny 5.74MB, and merely
332 pages / 166 sheets = 19mm thick = nails (nicely done though)

Just out of interest, the Midrange Reference Manual (DS33023A) is
688 pages yet is just a 2.64MB pdf. And perfectly readable too. That
implies the 18C RM could be shrunk to 3.75MB. If you use a utility like
FinePrint you could halve the number of sheets needed by printing
two A5 pages per side

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2003\06\15@010819 by Charles Craft

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The printer I'm using supports two up printing but one of the reasons for printing it is to make it easier on the eyes. :-)
(and because it's tough to juggle a laptop on your lap in the can)


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2003\06\15@012724 by Jinx

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> (and because it's tough to juggle a laptop on your lap in the can)

Gee, thanks. There's an image to try and erase before I have dinner ;-)

Have you tried double-sided sticky tape ? You'll get a free wax too !
Or maybe leave it there to hold your pants up

I've found FinePrint does pretty good rendering of 1/2-size print. It
depends a lot on the font of the original of course and how hard you
need to study what's been printed, but for a reference manual I'd have
thought it would be a passable solution. A few seconds on the print
and then a few minutes (ha !!!) on the PIC

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2003\06\15@023104 by William Chops Westfield

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>    PIC18C MCU Family Reference Manual
>    Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing
>    and binding it yourself?

Well, I have a microchip printed copy of it.  Picked it up a the Embedded
Systems Conference a year or two back (when the PIC18s were just being
introduced, I think.)  So you OUGHT to be able to get one from your
favorite sales rep, or something like that...

BillW

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2003\06\15@030050 by Charles Craft

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Thanks!

I was looking for confirmation that they exist before chasing it.


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> >    PIC18C MCU Family Reference Manual
>    Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing
>    and binding it yourself?

Well, I have a microchip printed copy of it.  Picked it up a the Embedded
Systems Conference a year or two back (when the PIC18s were just being
introduced, I think.)  So you OUGHT to be able to get one from your
favorite sales rep, or something like that...

BillW

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2003\06\15@031125 by Picdude
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On Saturday 14 June 2003 23:42, Charles Craft scribbled:
> Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing and
> binding it yourself?

If you're willing to pay for it, call Kinko's (or your local copy-center) and tell them what you want.  Email the link to them, they'll download, print and bind, then go pick it up.   And pay.

I email them my PCB layouts to be printed on transparency.

Cheers,
-Neil.

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2003\06\15@084354 by Olin Lathrop

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> PIC18C MCU Family Reference Manual
>
> PIC18C Reference Manual
>  Complete PIC18C Reference Manual 7/14/00 (16.73 Mb)
>
> Anyone know of a way to get this 976 page beast without printing and
> binding it yourself? Was this part of that discussion of nailing the
> pages together a few weeks ago?

Try your local Microchip office.  My local office has a large closet with
shelves dedicated to printed manuals, so others probably have too.

On the other hand, I've done lots of PIC projects and never used that
manual nor wished I had it.  I find the individual data sheets to be
sufficient.


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