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2001\02\07@140823 by Brian Aase

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Okay, I'm doing a project with a 16C62B, and I might need to invest
in an emulator before this is done.  Looking around, I find:

MPLAB-ICE for about $1995.00
Clearview Mathias for about $695.00 (w/o options)
RICE17A for about $675.00 (again, w/o options)

Have I missed anything that might be worth considering?
If not, I'd at least appreciate some opinions on any of the
above, either for or against... any comments will be helpful.
Brian Aase

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2001\02\07@145439 by Bob Blick

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I have a Mathias with the trace module and it works great for the 16C
series.

Of course, since I got the HiTech C compiler, everything usually works and
I have only needed the emulator a couple of times since then. BTW, the
compiler integrates well into the Mathias TDE environment.

Cheers,

Bob

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2001\02\07@163058 by Sergio Picado

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       I've used ClearView Mathias for the last 6 years, mostly assembly.  Good,
reliable product, never has failed.  Very easy and intuitive to use.  They
have an excellent help line for the few times I had questions.

       Cheers,
       Sergio





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2001\02\07@164550 by John A. Craft

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Here, Here!  What Bob said!

Jc.

At 07:53 PM 02/07/2001 +0000, you wrote:
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2001\02\08@064102 by David VanHorn

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>Have I missed anything that might be worth considering?
>If not, I'd at least appreciate some opinions on any of the
>above, either for or against... any comments will be helpful.
>Brian Aase

Atmel AVR, ICE-200 $200? :)


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2001\02\08@093042 by Brian Aase

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> >Have I missed anything that might be worth considering?
> >If not, I'd at least appreciate some opinions on any of the
> >above, either for or against... any comments will be helpful.
> >Brian Aase
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> Atmel AVR, ICE-200 $200? :)
>
Yep, already got one ;-)

I wish Microchip had a similar product (hint, hint).

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2001\02\08@120432 by mike

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On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:31:27 -0800, you wrote:

>> >Have I missed anything that might be worth considering?
>> >If not, I'd at least appreciate some opinions on any of the
>> >above, either for or against... any comments will be helpful.
>> >Brian Aase
>>
>> Atmel AVR, ICE-200 $200? :)
>>
>Yep, already got one ;-)
>
>I wish Microchip had a similar product (hint, hint).
I'd rather have expensive devtools for chips that are available than
cheap ones for those that aren't (or at least weren't at the time...)

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2001\02\09@135814 by Tsvetan Usunov

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>Okay, I'm doing a project with a 16C62B, and I might need to invest
>in an emulator before this is done.  Looking around, I find:
>
>MPLAB-ICE for about $1995.00
>Clearview Mathias for about $695.00 (w/o options)
>RICE17A for about $675.00 (again, w/o options)
>
>Have I missed anything that might be worth considering?
>If not, I'd at least appreciate some opinions on any of the
>above, either for or against... any comments will be helpful.

http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk

ICE PIC Jnr 16    $350  + JNRPB74A  $160

you can download their software from the web

Best regards

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2001\02\10@024057 by Roman Black

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Does anyone make a (cheap!!) emulator for the
12C5xx series PICs?? I am considering buying a
UV eraser and 3 JW parts, all up costing me
well over $100 US.

Does anyone make an emulator for the baby PICs
in this price range??
-Roman

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2001\02\10@062010 by Tsvetan Usunov
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>Does anyone make a (cheap!!) emulator for the
>12C5xx series PICs?? I am considering buying a
>UV eraser and 3 JW parts, all up costing me
>well over $100 US.
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>Does anyone make an emulator for the baby PICs
>in this price range??
>-Roman

ICEPIC Jnr 5x does exactly this, the price is $350.
Code is downloaded in second instead waiting several minutes to erase the JW
parts.
If you consider that your time is money the $250 difference will be paid off
very quickly.
There is one catch though ;) read my previous e-mail.

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2001\02\10@193030 by dpharris

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Hi-
After doing a search I found CCS sells this too-
see:  http://ccsinfo.com/hardware.HTML
David

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2001\02\10@194443 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 04:31 PM 2/10/01 -0800, David Harris wrote:
>Hi-
>After doing a search I found CCS sells this too-
>see:  http://ccsinfo.com/hardware.HTML
>David

I recall one of the US (?) or Brit electronics magazines had a project
to build an open-board PIC emulator (using a genuine bondout
chip from Microchip). Can't recall much else about it, but I
thought it was very inexpensive, like ~$200 US. Less than the
personality modules for a full-fledged emulator.

Anyone else know what I am talking about?

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