Post by thread:[PIC]: Eagle Libraries for PICs

Hi all. I've searched, but come up with nothing. I'm looking for Eagle library files for the 16f628 and the 18f452. Anyone have these? I just downloaded Eagle and I really have no clue how to make them on my own. Perhaps once I become more comfortable with the software. Right now it all seems so obtuse. I wish I was back in AutoCAD :) Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Note that it's not only newer PICmocro's that are missing, also many other Microchip chip's are missing auch as most analog chip's. I personly added the TC77 temp sensor myself into my own Eagle installation, but that just 5 pins. I gave up when doing the 16-pin MCP3208 12-bit ADC... Jan-Erik Svderholm S:t Anna Data Sweden >Hi all. I've searched, but come up with nothing. I'm looking for Eagle >library files for the 16f628 and the 18f452. Anyone have these? I just >downloaded Eagle and I really have no clue how to make them on my own. >Perhaps once I become more comfortable with the software. Right now it >all seems so obtuse. I wish I was back in AutoCAD :) > >Josh -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Great !! Couldn't this file be stored on the "http://www.piclist.com" site ? And there must be someway to extract/insert from/to the Eagle libraries. How should I else be able to include someones elses additions to my own library where I might have added some other parts myself ? I woudn't like to lose those... Anyway, I just fired up my Eagle, and tried "export" from the lib editor. It created a large file with *all* of the microchip.lbr file. But in there was my own data : Edit TC77.sym; Layer 94; Wire 0.254 (-7.62 10.16) (7.62 10.16) (7.62 -5.08) (-7.62 -5.08) \ (-7.62 10.16); Pin 'VDD' I/O None Middle R0 Both 0 (-12.7 7.62); Pin 'VSS' I/O None Middle R0 Both 0 (-12.7 -2.54); Pin 'CS' I/O None Middle R180 Both 0 (12.7 7.62); Pin 'SI/O' I/O None Middle R180 Both 0 (12.7 2.54); Pin 'SCK' I/O None Middle R180 Both 0 (12.7 -2.54); Edit TC77.dev; Prefix ''; Description 'Thermal sensor with SPI interface'; Value Off; Add TC77 'G$1' Next 0 (0 -2.54); Package 'SOT23-5L' ''''''; Technology ''; Connect 'G$1.CS' '1' 'G$1.VSS' '2' 'G$1.SCK' '3' 'G$1.SI/O' '4' 'G$1.VDD' '5'; I also tried to "remove" te TC77 from the lib and re-execute these commands (not the whole exported script), and I got it back (with a few errror that I havn't checked right now, I could have missed some parts of the large script...). Maybe we should create a special "piclist.lbr" ? Jan-Erik Svderholm S:t Anna Data Sweden >I just made 18f452 and 16f628. I'll send the whole library off list (10k >file), since I don't know how to extract just one part. Please check the >parts for mistakes. If anybody else needs it, just let me know. >Regards, Samo -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Hi all, We can use the ftp.cadsoftusa.com to upload. And there is Rich Osman who already did something with f6xx. I'll check it out. http://www.cadsoftusa.com Dennis. From: "PicDude" <spam_OUTpicdudeTakeThisOuTNARWANI.ORG> > Creating a part is not too difficult. But I also need a 16F628, so > if no one already has one, let me know and I'll create it this weekend. Ahora podis usar Yahoo! Messenger desde tu celular. Aprendi csmo hacerlo en Yahoo! Msvil: http://ar.mobile.yahoo.com/sms.html -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I saw the osman lib and had problems with the layout of it, as it uses pin-layout instead of functional layout. So, I made my own... (More correctly I adjusted the original microchip lib.) Since the chip is pin-compatible with the 16F84 it is very easy to add another version. I just elongated the symbol so that more text on the ports could fit. (I wanted all the pin-names on it, not just Rx0-7 etc.) kyrre {Original Message removed}

part 1 991 bytes content-type:text/plain; (decoded 7bit) > Hi all. I've searched, but come up with nothing. I'm looking for Eagle > library files for the 16f628 and the 18f452. Anyone have these? I've attached an Eagle library that contains a small collection of PICs, including the 16F628. > I just > downloaded Eagle and I really have no clue how to make them on my own. You should learn. It's all in the manual and help files, which is how I learned it. I find I make my own Eagle parts a lot. I often don't like their symbols, pad shapes, drill sizes, etc. You get the impression that they were made by someone who had a lot of parts to make and just wanted to get it over with. Attention to detail and niceties are often missing. For some reason they often use oblong pad shapes for DIP holes and don't show pin one with a different shape. I like to make the pin 1 pad square and all others round. This can save you from lots of stupid errors when debugging on the back of the board. part 2 12227 bytes content-type:application/octet-stream; (decode) part 3 328 bytes ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Olin - I hate to creep but that library is just so much nicer than the > standard Eagle one (and the pins appear to be in the right place ;) Thanks. But I have to ask, what is "creeping" in this context? Is that another specialized Aussie or Kiwi term? ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Sorry I miised the boat. Where is this library posted at? Vic -----Original Message----- From: Dominic Stratten <.....salesKILLspam@spam@PICBITS.COM> To: PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:48:26 -0000 Subject: Re: [PIC]: Eagle Libraries for PICs {Quote hidden}> Its a terminology used a lot in the Uk - creeping/brown > nosing/sucking up > to/trying to get in your good books > > I should have said "I hate to sound like I'm creeping" meaning "I > dont want > it to look like I'm trying to get in your good books" > > It was a genuine compliment and a thank you for posting that library > - its > made my designing a lot easier. > > Dom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olin Lathrop" <.....olin_piclistKILLspam.....EMBEDINC.COM> > To: <EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Eagle Libraries for PICs > > > > > Olin - I hate to creep but that library is just so much nicer > than the > > > standard Eagle one (and the pins appear to be in the right place > ;) > > > > Thanks. But I have to ask, what is "creeping" in this context? Is > that > > another specialized Aussie or Kiwi term? > > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > > (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE > topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: > ->Ads > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > ********************************* Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com ********************************* -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Hi all. I've searched, but come up with nothing. I'm looking for Eagle > library files for the 16f628 and the 18f452. Anyone have these? I just > downloaded Eagle and I really have no clue how to make them on my own. > Perhaps once I become more comfortable with the software. Right now it > all seems so obtuse. I wish I was back in AutoCAD :) I just use 16c84 for 16f628 and change the name... I guess there is a 16f877 that you could use for the 18f? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I was thinking of this, but I figured I'd end up confusing myself when I go to use pins that I can't use on the older chips, such as osc2 and MCLR. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > I just use 16c84 for 16f628 and change the name... I guess there is a > 16f877 that you could use for the 18f? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Josh Sez: >Right now it > all seems so obtuse. I wish I was back in AutoCAD :) Ah the learning curve of AutoCad. These days, I can draw in AutoCad as fast as I can think it up, and if it has to be drawn more than ten times I can automate it so it takes one keystroke. But I remember the six month hairpulling session it took to get familiar with the program. Eagle is a lot easier to learn than AutoCad and a heckuva lot easier to draw PCB's with. Try to draw a few simple parts in the Library, you will get the hang of it pretty quick. I think there is a library tutorial either in the Eagle distribution or on thier website that walks you through it. I picked it up just by poking around. Almost every project, I draw at least 2 or 3 parts. They may be oddballs that aren't in the Eagle standard library, or maybe I can't figure out how Eagle's capacitor naming convention works and just draw my own, or I don't like the spacing of their thru-hole resistors and so on. After you get finished learning to draw basic parts, you can find out how to draw trickier features: A Note which consists of a Name and a Value, no pads or outlines, that shows up in the BOM. A Netmixer, which consists of a pair of SMT pads connected by copper that connects a fat and thin trace net. And multiple packages for a single type of part, very important to learn. Fool around with the Library an hour a day for a week and you'll be an expert. -- Lawrence Lile -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu