Post by thread:[PIC]: Best Development System for F877 & ....

Okay, I give up trying to build my own programmer. What is the best bang for the buck for something that will program a 16F877 and support ICSP and perhaps ICD? Picstart? Rom Zap/ Pocket Programmer Peter Andersons package? Other? C compiler would be a plus (FORTH would be awesome...) Something that would also support 18CXXX would be nice too. Thanks, Kevin -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Kev wrote: > > Okay, I give up trying to build my own programmer. > > What is the best bang for the buck for something that will program a 16F877 > and support ICSP and perhaps ICD? > > Picstart? > Rom Zap/ Pocket Programmer > Peter Andersons package? Kev, I give the PicStart Plus a big thumbs up. I have home-made ICSP connectors for mine, I can attach it to my protoboard unit, and using MPLAB I just click the mouse and dump the new code into the PIC on the protoboard. So I can make hardware or software changes in a second and be testing it in a few seconds. Check with some of the suppliers you can often get a PSP deal for about $100 US, and it will do almost any PIC and is upgradeable. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

> > Okay, I give up trying to build my own programmer. What happened? Tait style programmers are trivial to build. This post motivated me to get off my butt and build a page describing the trivial low voltage programmer I put together based on a thread we had here over a year ago: http://www.infosite.com/~jkeyzer/piclist/2000/Mar/2126.html Note the password and login are both piclist. Here is my new site: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/index.html So instead of answering with a long thread I can point folks there. > > What is the best bang for the buck for something that will program a 16F877 > and support ICSP and perhaps ICD? > > Picstart? > Rom Zap/ Pocket Programmer > Peter Andersons package? > > Other? I happen to like Wouter's wloader. Check out the link and discussion on my page. It's a bootloader with a simple interface. No ICD but instead of ICSP it uses any single pin you pick for the programming interface. In any case you may still want to examine a homemade programmer simply because if you go the ICD/bootloader route, you won't need a programmer for little more than getting the bootloader into the chip. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu

> Kev, I give the PicStart Plus a big thumbs up. > I have home-made ICSP connectors for mine, I can > attach it to my protoboard unit if using ICSP with the picstart, just make sure you keep the cable short -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mansheim" <.....Michael_J_MansheimKILLspam.....GRACO.COM> To: <EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Best Development System for F877 & .... > > Kev, I give the PicStart Plus a big thumbs up. > > I have home-made ICSP connectors for mine, I can > > attach it to my protoboard unit > > if using ICSP with the picstart, just make sure you keep the > cable short > And don't try to power the target circuit with the Picstart! Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Mike Mansheim wrote: > >if using ICSP with the picstart, just make sure you keep the >cable short > How short is short enough? (More accurately, how long is too long?) Does anyone have an experienced-based recommendation as to cable type and maximum length? Twisted pair, flat ribbon? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

At 08:36 PM 7/2/01 -0400, Bob Barr wrote: >Mike Mansheim wrote: > >> >>if using ICSP with the picstart, just make sure you keep the >>cable short > >How short is short enough? (More accurately, how long is too long?) > >Does anyone have an experienced-based recommendation as to cable type and >maximum length? Twisted pair, flat ribbon? 6' here, of garden variety flat cable. Worked like hell, till the latest picstart rev, then fine. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Mike Mansheim wrote: > > > Kev, I give the PicStart Plus a big thumbs up. > > I have home-made ICSP connectors for mine, I can > > attach it to my protoboard unit > > if using ICSP with the picstart, just make sure you keep the > cable short 2 foot long is fine, if you run separate wires (not ribbon or multicore). I have a few harnesses this length and never had a problem. -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.