Post by thread:[PIC]: Beginning With PICs

come.to/jal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jallist/files/ http://www.piclist.com/jal http://www.geocities.com/vsurducan/pic.htm On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Khalid Swesseh wrote: {Quote hidden}> > > > > > Hi > > > > I want to start working with PIC,I heared that the PIC16f84 is the > > best one to start with > > But there are alot of KITs and Compilers to use > > > > What do you recommend ? > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Khalid Swesseh wrote: > > I want to start working with PIC,I heared that the PIC16f84 is the > > best one to start with > > But there are alot of KITs and Compilers to use > > > > What do you recommend ? If I were starting out fresh: MPLAB assembler/IDE WARP-13 programmer PIC16F876 This will get you going with assembly. If you want to wok in C: CCS C compiler (PCM or PCW) Of course, everybody has their own opinion. I'm sure you'll hear lots more! The lesson here is, thee are lots of different ways to get started, do your research and figure out which is right for you. Some people need to get going as cheap as possible, others need something aceptable for commercial design in a coprorate environment, whatever. There are lots of different ways to go about it. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Khalid Swesseh wrote: > > Hi > > > > I want to start working with PIC,I heared that the PIC16f84 is the > > best one to start with > > But there are alot of KITs and Compilers to use > > > > What do you recommend ? Jumping in on this thread: I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. From these requirements, can someone recommend to me a good microcontroller and software setup? Thanks, Titus Barik (spam_OUTbarikTakeThisOuTtechspot.com) AIM: TBarik ICQ: 1604453 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I use picasm as the assembler, and picp which talks to my Picstart Plus Programmer. Works great, faster than MPLab on windows. Another programmer I know uses MPLab under wine on linux with good success. (And if you hate the MPLab IDE, but want the "official" assembler, MPASM.EXE works great under wine, while you still get your preferred work environment) If you don't have a Picstart Plus programmer, then picprg can be used to talk to a cheap parallel port programmer. (Like the noppp unit http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/noppp/ , which is easily modified to work with the 16F876 and 16F877 pics. ) On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 18:14, Titus Barik wrote: {Quote hidden}> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Khalid Swesseh wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > I want to start working with PIC,I heared that the PIC16f84 is the > > > best one to start with > > > But there are alot of KITs and Compilers to use > > > > > > What do you recommend ? > > Jumping in on this thread: > > I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I > also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run > under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. > > >From these requirements, can someone recommend to me a good > microcontroller and software setup? > > Thanks, > > Titus Barik (.....barikKILLspam@spam@techspot.com) > AIM: TBarik ICQ: 1604453 > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > -- =Don= "In the beginning, Man lived just like the animals. Then something happened that unleashed the power of our imaginations. We learned to talk." -- Pink Floyd, (Keep Talking, The Division Bell) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

> Jumping in on this thread: > > I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I > also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run > under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. - have a look at http://www.gnupic.org for GPL stuff - Jal compiler (free, not GPL, see signature) runs on linux - AFAIK mpasm (Microchips assembler, command line version, free , not GPL) runs under dosemu Wouter van Ooijen Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl Jal compiler for PIC uC's: http://www.voti.nl/jal -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Titus Barik wrote: > > Jumping in on this thread: > > I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I > also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run > under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. Just curious, but why is Linux a requirement? Head over to: http://www.gnupic.org/ Join the gnupic mailing list. Here's what I use: assembler: gpasm simulator: gpsim programmer: picp, Linux driver for PicStart+ Scott -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:36:02PM -0800, Don Krause wrote: > > If you don't have a Picstart Plus programmer, then picprg can be used to > talk to a cheap parallel port programmer. (Like the noppp unit > http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/noppp/ , which is easily modified to > work with the 16F876 and 16F877 pics. ) And if you want a programmer with a smaller part count, then you can take a look at my Trivial Low Voltage Programmer: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys It takes about $8 in RadioShack parts and can be put together in less than an hour. It programs 16F87X and 16F62X parts out of the box, works with an updated version of Brian Lane's picprog which I have on the site, and can do high voltage programming with some minimal modifications. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:14:14AM +0100, wouter van ooijen & floortje hanneman wrote: > > Jumping in on this thread: > > > > I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I > > also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run > > under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. > > - have a look at http://www.gnupic.org for GPL stuff > - Jal compiler (free, not GPL, see signature) runs on linux > - AFAIK mpasm (Microchips assembler, command line version, free , not GPL) > runs under dosemu mpasm is probably too much trouble. gpasm is an outstanding tool for doing development in an Linux environment. Interestingly enough the only piece of software that can't get assembled with it is Wouter's wloader source. An issue with macro handling of the '#v(..)' directive. Craig Franklin is working diligently to get it working. I'm hoping to see it soon. You can take a look on my PIC page to see my Linux toolchain: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 06:23:55AM -0800, Scott Dattalo wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Titus Barik wrote: > > > > > Jumping in on this thread: > > > > I'm also a beginner who is interested in PIC programming. However, I > > also have the additional requirement that the software I use must run > > under Linux and be free or (better) GPL. > > Just curious, but why is Linux a requirement? Seems obvious to me. That's the system he's currently using. > > Head over to: > > http://www.gnupic.org/ Absolutely. > > Join the gnupic mailing list. Right on target. > > Here's what I use: > > assembler: gpasm Me too! Me too! ;-) > simulator: gpsim Yup. > programmer: picp, Linux driver for PicStart+ I use a modified version of Brian Lane's picprg with my Trivial Low Voltage Programmer. You can find it here: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys BAJ > > > > Scott > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Scott Dattalo wrote: > Just curious, but why is Linux a requirement? I use Linux exclusively on several of my workstations (specifically, Debain). So, naturally, I would like the software and hardware I use to work under it. > assembler: gpasm > simulator: gpsim > programmer: picp, Linux driver for PicStart+ Awesome, thanks. These should do the trick. Titus Barik (barikKILLspamtechspot.com) AIM: TBarik ICQ: 1604453 P.S. I'm starting from ground zero with this PIC stuff. Expect lots of questions. :) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.