Post by thread:[PIC]: Ethernet controller

Hello everyone, This is my first mail to this list.. I am going to develop a small PIC-based device hooked to 10BaseT. I browsed through the PIC-list archive and found some very interesting sites, for example * The (unofficial) PICmicro On-Line Tutorial (http://www.botkin.org/dale/picmicro.htm) * Embedded Ethernet (http://www.embeddedethernet.com), and Dennis Petrov's home page. What I am looking for is an ethernet controller that is not surface mounted. I am afraid that it is too difficult to sold surface mounted devices by hand. My intention is to build everything on an experiment circuit board (in my home country Sweden, these boards are called Vero-Boards). So I wonder if anybody can help me finding an Ethernet controller which is not surface mounted. Thanks in advance Gudmund Berggren -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList spam_OUTpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu>

National Semiconductor used to make the 8390 series of Ethernet chips in DIL packages. These are used on NE2000 controllers. Later versions come in surface mount versions, but the earlier ones were DIL. I do not know if the DIL ones are still available. Surface mount should not be a problem to solder. There have been a number of references in this list to pages showing how to do it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu>

>----- Original Message ----- >From: Gudmund Berggren <gudmund.berggrenKILLspamHOMEMAIL.COM> >To: <.....PICLISTKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> >Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:20 AM >Subject: [PIC]: Ethernet controller >What I am looking for is an ethernet controller that is not surface mounted. > am afraid that it is too difficult to sold surface mounted devices by hand. I've looked for such myself without any luck. If you are building a one-of-a-kind hobby project then you should consider using the 3c509b implementation often referenced on this list. This takes a standard PC network interface card and interfaces it to a PIC. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level sofftware) Thanks in advance Gudmund Berggren -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu>

I'm not positive, but I don't think any of the earlier DIL 8390 series chips contained internal buffer RAM. This would be a rather large hassle to deal with. As far as soldering 100 pin SMT devices. Not easy for my old eyes ;-) Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level sofftware) {Original Message removed}

Surface mount is really not that bad. See: http://www.piclist.com/../smds.htm aka http://www.piclist.com/techref/default.asp?url=smds.htm --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) @spam@jamesnewtonKILLspampiclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org {Original Message removed}