Post by thread:[PIC]: 16F84 web pages

I don't wish to be annoying but as instructed I have to post this message again, this is my first message to the list,many apologies. I recently acquire a serial 16F84 programmer and a PIC, Does anyone have a suggestion on a www page to search for applications, I want to use the pic for small projects of pneumatic control, this means some kind of magnetic /light detection , probably one analog input also , I'm beginning to learn the basic programming skills, I know that this is probably to much for the 16F84, but I want to use the 16F84 first and then in time jump to the 68C11(analog inputs). Thanks and Regards to all. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList spam_OUTpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu

> I don't wish to be annoying but as instructed I have to post this message > again, this is my first message to the list,many apologies. > > I recently acquire a serial 16F84 programmer and a PIC, Does anyone have a > suggestion on a www page to search for applications, I want to use the pic > for small projects of pneumatic control, this means some kind of magnetic > /light detection , probably one analog input also , I'm beginning to > learn the basic programming skills, I know that this is probably to much > for the 16F84, but I want to use the 16F84 first and then in time jump to > the 68C11(analog inputs). > > Thanks and Regards to all. Why not start at the Microchip application notes section here http://www.microchip.com/1010/suppdoc/appnote/index.htm They have enough to keep you busy for a good while. Regards, -Bruce .....techKILLspam@spam@rentron.com http://www.rentron.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu

Ruben Aguilera wrote : > I don't wish to be annoying but as instructed I have to post this message > again, this is my first message to the list,many apologies. Well, *some* message just has to be the first, right ? :-) > I recently acquire a serial 16F84 programmer and a PIC, What programer more specificaly ? Maybe it can program some newer PIC models that the now obsolete 16F84 ? > Does anyone have a > suggestion on a www page to search for applications, I want to use the pic > for small projects of pneumatic control, this means some kind of magnetic > /light detection , probably one analog input also... I think it's easier to find information on each "part" of what you'd like to do. That is, look for "light detection" when that is an issue, look for "analog input" when *that* is needed, and so on. That might be easier then to find a complete application for a specific use. > , I'm beginning to > learn the basic programming skills, I know that this is probably to much > for the 16F84,... Why not just skip the 16F84 then ? > but I want to use the 16F84 first and then in time jump to > the 68C11(analog inputs). Isn't the 68C11 from a completly different line of microcontrolers (Motorola ?) ? I think you should decide on *which* microcontrolers you'd like to use first, then get all information about that. This mail-list is about the microcontrolers from Microchip. B.t.w, check this page for basic PIC information : http://www.voti.nl/swp/index.html. Best Regards and good luck !! Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

>I know that this is probably to much > for the 16F84, but I want to use the >16F84 first and then in time jump to > the 68C11(analog inputs). Why not start straight in with a 16F876 which already has analogue inputs, and has an Incircuit Debugger capability, or better yet an 18F252 which has a nicer architecture than the 16F series, along with analogue inputs and still has a debugger capability, although you need to buy an ICD2 to deal with this. This way you are not changing processor architecture in mid stream. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:30:45PM -0700, Tech wrote: > > I don't wish to be annoying but as instructed I have to post this message > > again, this is my first message to the list,many apologies. > > > > I recently acquire a serial 16F84 programmer and a PIC, Does anyone have a > > suggestion on a www page to search for applications, I want to use the pic > > for small projects of pneumatic control, this means some kind of magnetic > > /light detection , probably one analog input also , I'm beginning to > > learn the basic programming skills, I know that this is probably to much > > for the 16F84, but I want to use the 16F84 first and then in time jump to > > the 68C11(analog inputs). > > > > Thanks and Regards to all. > > Why not start at the Microchip application notes section here > http://www.microchip.com/1010/suppdoc/appnote/index.htm Also the Midrange Manual is a must have. And as always: use the datasheet Luke! BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> but I want to use the 16F84 first and then in time jump to > the 68C11(analog inputs). Huh? What's a 68C11? That looks vaguely like a Motorola part number. There is no commonality between these two parts other than they are both microcontrollers (I presume that's what a 68C11 is from context). There are many PICs with analog inputs. You don't need to jump manufacturers for that. Unless you've got some very unusual requirements, the PIC line is a good place to be. It has a broad range of offerings in two basic families (that are worth talking about), soon to be three. For general hobby use and particularly for starting out, I recommend the PIC 18 family. These will do fine except for some high volume designs or when you really need something smaller than 28 pins. The fixed 18F1320 parts will soon be released, so that will take the family down to 18 pins. The 18 family architecture is also easier to learn. For a hobbyist, there is little reason anymore to bother with the 16 family. Toss the 16F84s. Get a few 18F252s and don't look back. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Olin, What is the third product family you mention? - I guess the two basic families are the 16F and 18F ranges, is there another product range about to be announced? Thanks, Peter Moreton > the PIC line is a good place to be. It has a broad range of offerings in >two basic families (that are worth talking about), soon to be three. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> is there another product range > about to be announced? I guess Olin refers to the long-awaited dsPIC? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Olin, > What is the third product family you mention? - I guess the two basic > families are the 16F and 18F ranges, is there another product range > about to be announced? dsPIC, announced a long time ago, promised a while ago, still vapourware for most of us. I'm not sure what's taking so long but I think they've over hyped the parts (like Bluetooth). TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> What is the third product family you mention? - I guess the two basic > families are the 16F and 18F ranges, is there another product range > about to be announced? Yes, the 30F or "dsPIC". ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Herbert Graf wrote: > dsPIC, announced a long time ago, promised a while ago, still > vapourware for most of us. I'm not sure what's taking so long but I > think they've over hyped the parts (like Bluetooth). Well, "prehyped" is more accurate I think. They really are nice parts, but they have been a long time coming. The vapor is getting a little thicker. Engineering samples are out there. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Herbert Graf wrote: > > dsPIC, announced a long time ago, promised a while ago, still > > vapourware for most of us. I'm not sure what's taking so long but I > > think they've over hyped the parts (like Bluetooth). > > Well, "prehyped" is more accurate I think. They really are nice parts, > but they have been a long time coming. The vapor is getting a little > thicker. Engineering samples are out there. Yes, I guess prehyped is more appropriate. Fact of the matter is most of the excitement I had when I first heard about these chips is pretty much gone now. Perhaps that will change when I actually get my hands on one of them. We shall see! :) TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Yes, I guess prehyped is more appropriate. Fact of the matter > is most of the excitement I had when I first heard about these chips is > pretty much > gone now. Perhaps that will change when I actually get my hands on one > of > them. We shall see! I have had my hands on some, and they are pretty cool. I've got one managing two switching power supplies pulse by pulse. One of these performs power factor correction without current feedback, which envolves a divide and a square root, in addition to the servo algorithm for maitaining the output voltage in the right range. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

These url's will be a good start. http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_menu.htm http://www.geocities.com/vsurducan/electro/PIC/pic.htm http://www.voti.nl/pic/index.html http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0f84rc.html http://ubasics.com/adam/pic/archive.shtml http://elproducts.com/Hobbyist.htm http://www.dontronics.com/cat_hard_micro_pic.html#628spec http://jap.hu/electronic/ http://www.myke.com/ http://www.devrs.com/pic/ http://sq-1.com/ http://www.wolfgang-kynast.de/pic.htm http://www.rentron.com/ http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/projects.htm If you have 16F84's, go ahead and use them. The 16F628's do more, cost less. At some point in time you may want to focus on a particular line of the devices. The tools available don't always support everything. You can go a long way with nothing more than the free software and information on Microchips we site. Note that the assembler program has a simulator built in! John Ferrell 6241 Phillippi Rd Julian NC 27283 Phone: (336)685-9606 .....johnferrellKILLspam.....earthlink.net Dixie Competition Products NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW "My Competition is Not My Enemy" {Original Message removed}