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2004\06\18@135139 by Robert Mash

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I've used a PICSTART+ at work for about a year now with pretty satisfactory results.  Except it seems kinda slow programming.  But now I'm looking to start doing some PIC projects at home and I'm looking at my options:

1.) a parallel-port Tait style programmer.  Seems pretty limited in the number of different PICs they can program.

2.) Buy a picstart plus.  Don't really want to spend $200.

or

3.) Buy a WARP-13.  Cheaper... hmmm.

My question:  Anyone have any comments about the Warp-13?  Good or bad experiences?  Insider info...  
Thanks to all for your reply(s).  Last point, I don't want to start any wars here about which programmer is best and for what reasons, etc...
Just looking for input on the Warp13.



Robert Mash

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2004\06\18@140423 by Richard Zinn

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I've been using it and I love it.  It programs a lot of different chips, it
programs them fast just as the site advertises, and when I have had
questions I've gotten good help from them.

Up until now I've just been putting the PICs in the ziff socket, but this
weekend I plan on doing my first ICSP and I expect that to go good as well.



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2004\06\18@141432 by Bob Japundza

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I have a warp-13a and it is indeed very good, have had no problems other than some stupidity on my part.  On a Sunday afternoon I sent Jim an email asking about device support for a new pic which wasn't currently supported, but had some on hand I was wanting to program.  Within an hour I had a new exe from him with support for the new chip.  I'm a very happy customer.

Regards,
Bob

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2004\06\18@141853 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Robert Mash wrote :

> But now I'm looking to start doing some PIC projects at home
> and I'm looking at my options:...

You did not mention it, but have you looked at the Wisp628 ?

http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/index.html

I'm using it and likes it...

Jan-Erik.

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2004\06\18@142304 by Bruce
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> My question:  Anyone have any comments about the Warp-13?
> Good or bad experiences?  Insider info...

I've used a Warp-13 & EPIC for years. Both are fast, easy to use
and reliable.


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-Bruce
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2004\06\18@143134 by Josh Koffman

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Add mine to the list of names who love the Warp13a. I bought one a few
years back, and it has been amazing. Jim is a great guy to deal with
(even though he occasionally gets bogged down due to the volume of
email). It's a quality product at a great price.

If you're in North America, you can buy it from Peter Anderson
(http://www.phanderson.com) and he'll throw in the power supply. He
usually takes the summer off though, dunno if he's on vacation yet.

Josh

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2004\06\18@143137 by Robert Mash

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Jan,
I have looked at the Wisp 628, but not for a while.. I'll look at it again.
It seems that I was concerned about it's support for different PIC's.
I've come to use the 12F675, the 16F684, 16F688, and the 18F458 on a fairly
regular basis, and I'd like to not have to worry about non-microchip
entities supporting their programmers in the future.  Maybe i'm thinking
about this too hard.
I'll look at the Wisp again.

Thanks,
Bob



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2004\06\18@145856 by Joe Jansen/TECH/HQ/KEMET/US

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From Peter Anderson's website:

(May 22, '04). I no longer sell the WARP13.

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> If you're in North America, you can buy it from Peter Anderson
> (http://www.phanderson.com) and he'll throw in the power supply. He
> usually takes the summer off though, dunno if he's on vacation yet.
>
> Josh

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2004\06\18@150105 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> It seems that I was concerned about it's support for different PIC's.
> I've come to use the 12F675, the 16F684, 16F688, and the
> 18F458 on a fairly
> regular basis,

That's me to blame. Actually those chips are all supported by the latest
software (updates are free), but I am lousy in updating the webpage.

> and I'd like to not have to worry about non-microchip
> entities supporting their programmers in the future.

That's a problem you will have with any non-microchip programmer. If you
are into flash only you could consider the ICD2. Be aware that all
software involved in the Wisp628 is there for you to adapt if you ever
want to. There are people out there who send me bug fixes :)

> I'll look at the Wisp again.

No, no, WISP is the predecessor of Wisp628, don't look at that old
beast! (Although it did have its merits, like variable-vcc
verification.)

Wouter van Ooijen

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2004\06\18@153116 by Martin Klingensmith

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I bought a Wisp628 kit from Wouter [I'm in New York] and I didn't have
any problems. Wouter is very helpful toward his customers, and the
software upgrades are free, as they should be [Unlike microEngineering
labs which wanted $30+ for software for their old-style parallel port
programmer]

Sorry I don't know about the Warp-13, but I definitely recommend the Wisp628

Robert Mash wrote:

>3.) Buy a WARP-13.  Cheaper... hmmm.
>
>My question:  Anyone have any comments about the Warp-13?  Good or bad experiences?  Insider info...
>
>Thanks to all for your reply(s).
>Last point, I don't want to start any wars here about which programmer is best and for what reasons, etc...
>Just looking for input on the Warp13.
>
>

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2004\06\18@153323 by Martin Klingensmith

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Josh Koffman wrote:

>Add mine to the list of names who love the Warp13a. I bought one a few
>years back, and it has been amazing. Jim is a great guy to deal with
>(even though he occasionally gets bogged down due to the volume of
>email). It's a quality product at a great price.
>
>If you're in North America, you can buy it from Peter Anderson
>(http://www.phanderson.com) and he'll throw in the power supply. He
>usually takes the summer off though, dunno if he's on vacation yet.
>
>
>
http://www.phanderson.com/warp-13.html
" (May 22, '04). I no longer sell the WARP13."

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2004\06\18@160724 by Dwayne Reid

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At 11:52 AM 6/18/2004, Robert Mash wrote:
>I've used a PICSTART+ at work for about a year now with pretty
>satisfactory results.  Except it seems kinda slow programming.
>But now I'm looking to start doing some PIC projects at home and I'm
>looking at my options:
>
>1.) a parallel-port Tait style programmer.  Seems pretty limited in the
>number of different PICs they can program.
>
>2.) Buy a picstart plus.  Don't really want to spend $200.

3) Purchase a Microchip ICD2 using the DSPic competition discount
voucher.  US $99 from Arrow (don't need actual coupon) or any of the other
distributors.  You will also have to make a little adapter board maps the 6
pin telco cable to the PIC you want to program.

The nice thing about this is that you get the debug capability for no extra
charge <grin>.

dwayne

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2004\06\18@214827 by Aaron G.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:23:00 -0400 Josh Koffman <RemoveMEjoshybearTakeThisOuTspamspamGMAIL.COM>
writes:
> If you're in North America, you can buy it from Peter Anderson
> (http://www.phanderson.com) and he'll throw in the power supply. He
> usually takes the summer off though, dunno if he's on vacation yet.
>
> Josh



You can buy it from http://www.thebytegfactory.com, as well.

I did think $21 for slow shipping/handling from TN to OH was a bit
excessive, though.  All I bought was the Warp13a, a prototyping board,
and a chip.  By slow I mean it didn't ship for 2 days after the order was
placed.

Aaron

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2004\06\21@104514 by Robert Mash

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I ended up going with a Wisp628 kit for 23$.
Thanks for your input list-members.
Bob
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> I bought a Wisp628 kit from Wouter [I'm in New York] and I didn't have
> any problems. Wouter is very helpful toward his customers, and the
> software upgrades are free, as they should be [Unlike microEngineering
> labs which wanted $30+ for software for their old-style parallel port
> programmer]
>
> Sorry I don't know about the Warp-13, but I definitely recommend the
Wisp628
>
> Robert Mash wrote:
>
> >3.) Buy a WARP-13.  Cheaper... hmmm.
> >
> >My question:  Anyone have any comments about the Warp-13?  Good or bad
experiences?  Insider info...
> >
> >Thanks to all for your reply(s).
> >Last point, I don't want to start any wars here about which programmer is
best and for what reasons, etc...
> >Just looking for input on the Warp13.
> >
> >
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