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'[PIC:] URGENT - viruses with piclist headers'
2003\08\14@175449 by Peter L. Peres

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> James, you need to block this "Russel McMahon" guy. His machine is badly
> infected with viruses. I got three already today.

For the past two days or so there have been hundreds of viruses sent to
various piclist members, appearing to come from me (plp) and others. They
bear old piclist message subjects. The only sure thing about them is that
the do NOT come from whom they appear to be coming. Russell is
incommunicado (probably travelling), and I run Linux and a pretty tight
firewall. Again: beware of messages with 'old' subjects and do not jump to
conclusions as to the origin of the virus email. It is NOT from whom it
appears to be.

Peter

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2003\08\14@181147 by Picdude

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And... it seems that the spammers finally got a hold of my piclist email address, which I use only for the piclist.  As of a few days ago, I've started receiving spam at this address.  I'll have to switch again and block off this one soon.

<sigh>,
-Neil.


On Thursday 14 August 2003 16:46, Peter L. Peres scribbled:
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2003\08\14@190210 by Bob Axtell

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I figured it out yesterday, Peter.

Thanks.

At 12:46 AM 8/15/2003 +0300, you wrote:
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2003\08\14@212128 by Dale Botkin

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Picdude wrote:

> And... it seems that the spammers finally got a hold of my piclist email
> address, which I use only for the piclist.  As of a few days ago, I've
> started receiving spam at this address.  I'll have to switch again and block
> off this one soon.

Why bother?

<http://www.spamassassin.org>

In the past two days it's snagged 51 SPAM emails, including four copies of
the latest virus.  That's in addition to the 73 more my mail server
rejected due to my Sendmail access filter.  Best thing I've ever found to
squash SPAM.

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2003\08\15@024103 by Picdude

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On Thursday 14 August 2003 20:20, Dale Botkin scribbled:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Picdude wrote:
> > And... it seems that the spammers finally got a hold of my piclist email
> > address, which I use only for the piclist.  As of a few days ago, I've
> > started receiving spam at this address.  I'll have to switch again and
> > block off this one soon.
>
> Why bother?
>
> <http://www.spamassassin.org>
>
> In the past two days it's snagged 51 SPAM emails, including four copies of
> the latest virus.  That's in addition to the 73 more my mail server
> rejected due to my Sendmail access filter.  Best thing I've ever found to
> squash SPAM.

Agreed.  I've looked at this before, and almost used it, but I like being able to know *who* actually sent the spam.  I've busted many companies, even though their privacy policy claimed otherwise.  One of the latest is buy.com, btw.  Another popular spot to never give your email address to is eio.com .  Mostly these companies blatantly sell the email addresses, but in some cases I have reason to believe that they're harvested.

Cheers,
-Neil.

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2003\08\15@055058 by Nigel Orr

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pic microcontroller discussion list <> wrote on Thursday, August 14, 2003
10:46 PM:

> For the past two days or so there have been hundreds of viruses sent
> to various piclist members, appearing to come from me (plp) and
> others.

I've now received two of these, the second with the correct return address
for Peter (the first was @FLASH.NET).  They both appear to have originated
from Canada, the second was from a machine at ulaval.ca, confirmed by the
site admin there.

As Peter says, look at the headers before jumping to conclusions.  And,
more importantly, if you don't have an anti-virus (or a more secure
operating system!), GET ONE (AVG from grisoft.com is a reasonably good free
one)!

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2003\08\15@094022 by Olin Lathrop

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> Agreed.  I've looked at this before, and almost used it, but I like
> being able to know *who* actually sent the spam.  I've busted many
> companies, even though their privacy policy claimed otherwise.  One of
> the latest is buy.com, btw.  Another popular spot to never give your
> email address to is eio.com . Mostly these companies blatantly sell the
> email addresses, but in some cases I have reason to believe that
> they're harvested.

I run my own email server, so this solution isn't for everyone, but I make
up a unique email address for every different contact I have to provide on
a web page.  This makes it very easy to tell who gave my email address to
a spammer, and to shut off that channel selectively by disabling that
address.

For example, if I'm buying something from crapco.com, I'll make up a new
email address something like @spam@crapcoKILLspamspamembedinc.com.  Another good trick if
there is no legitimate reason that crapco needs my email address but they
require it anyway, just fill in KILLspamsalesKILLspamspamcrapco.com.  The same thing works if
a fax address is required (there's almost never a legitimate reason for
that).  Just fill in the Crapco's own toll free number.


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2003\08\15@125745 by Picdude

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On Friday 15 August 2003 08:34, Olin Lathrop scribbled:
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Yes, that's exactly what I do, and what I was referring to above.  It's a great system that works.  What's especially interesting is that some spam mail starts a year or more after I last used some email address.

I don't run my own email server, but I have full control over the emails for the domains I own.

Cheers,
-Neil.

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2003\08\15@130318 by Robert Reimiller

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:49:55 +0100, you wrote:
>As Peter says, look at the headers before jumping to conclusions.  And,
>
You can find the true sender of an email using spamcop.net

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2003\08\15@232304 by p.cousens

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Just got my first
Proporting to be from Russell [TakeThisOuTapptechEraseMEspamspam_OUTPARADISE.NET.NZ].
Originating in Canada.
It went to my spam list folder , so the originating site must be on the
spam list I have.
I have just deleted it

Question. What virus is it
The message did not have an attachment

Peter Cousens
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