Post by thread:[PIC:] Any Olimex PIC-ICD2 clone board user there

1) Is there in PicListLand any user of the PIC-ICD2 clone board manufactured by Olimex (http://www.olimex.com <http://www.olimex.com/> ) ? I would greatly appreciate any feedback about compatibility with the original ICD2 board from Microchip. 2) Is it legal to clone ICD2 as Olimex has done ? Is this board a copy or an emulation of ICD2 ? Thanks ! Joan -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

I've used the Olimex ICD-2 board for several small projects. I've never had any problems with it. It integrates seamlessly into the latest version of MPLAB. I've never used Microchip's ICD2, so I'm not really qualified to compare them. In my opinion the 6pin header that Olimex uses is easier to deal with than Microchip's 6 conductor modular connector (RJ-11, RJ-25??). Chip Webber At 02:50 PM 6/28/2004, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>1) Is there in PicListLand any user of the PIC-ICD2 clone board >manufactured by Olimex (http://www.olimex.com <http://www.olimex.com/> ) ? I would >greatly appreciate any feedback about compatibility with the original ICD2 >board from Microchip. >2) Is it legal to clone ICD2 as Olimex has done ? Is this board a copy >or an emulation of ICD2 ? > >Thanks ! > >Joan > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email .....listservKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

>> 2) Is it legal to clone ICD2 as Olimex has done ? > With ICD2 we decided to count on Microchips firmware > and further updates. That's a statement, but not exactly an answer :) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu

Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >>>2) Is it legal to clone ICD2 as Olimex has done ? I had a discussion with one of the legal people about trademarks etc. Micreochip doesn't want its good name besmirched, so generally its not legal for Olimex to say "ICD2" whenn they refer to their version. However, Microchip is in the business to sell chips, not ICD2s. Olimex is supporting Microchip in that their equipment helps Microchip sell chips. So its unlikely that Microchip will care. --Bob {Quote hidden}> > >>With ICD2 we decided to count on Microchips firmware >>and further updates. > > > That's a statement, but not exactly an answer :) > > Wouter van Ooijen > > -- ------------------------------------------- > Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl > consultancy, development, PICmicro products > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu > > -- Replier: Most attachments rejected -------------- Bob Axtell PIC Hardware & Firmware Dev http://beam.to/baxtell 1-520-219-2363 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu

> Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > >>>2) Is it legal to clone ICD2 as Olimex has done ? > > I had a discussion with one of the legal people about trademarks etc. > Micreochip doesn't want its good name besmirched, so generally its not > legal for Olimex to say "ICD2" whenn they refer to their version. > > However, Microchip is in the business to sell chips, not ICD2s. Olimex > is supporting Microchip in that their equipment helps Microchip sell > chips. So its unlikely that Microchip will care. Microchip might earn its living selling chips, but explicitly do not allow you (me) to make a CD with their datasheets or MPLAB. What I wonderd was whether it was legal to use their ICD2 firmware. Related: In the sources of the PICkit firmware is stated 'legal to use on Microchip products only'. Now who can make sense of that: when I make a PICkit clone it will certainly use a Microchip PIC, but the rest of the hardware is mine. Is this within the above clause (allowed) or not? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList @spam@piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu

> With ICD2 we decided to count on Microchips firmware > and further updates. Does this include the USB, or does it do only serial? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads