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2010\02\24@094635 by Funny NYPD

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I used to got no spammer in email everyday, but found I receive up to ~10 of spammer emails each day recently, and all of them came from Gmail.

On our forum, I was told 80% of the forum spammer are using Gmail by our forum administrator.

So we took some action recently (simply blocked all Gmail user from registering) which heavily reduced the forum spammer from ~10/day to ~1/week.

Hotmail and Yahoo mail used to be blamed as the spammer email source, but now Gmail seems to be not only the No. 1 on searching, but also the No. 1 on spammer email sending.

Is it because of Google lack of technology or they just don't want to take any action in the excuse of "Internet freedom"?

Funny N.
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http://www.AuElectronics.com/products
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2010\02\24@111539 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Funny NYPD wrote:

> I was told 80% of the forum spammer are using Gmail

Are using gmail, or are forging gmail FROM addresses?

BillW

2010\02\24@125556 by Funny NYPD

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That I am not sure. Could be both.
Apparently, no much hotmail or yahoo emails are used.

Funny N.
Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com
http://www.AuElectronics.com/products
http://augroups.blogspot.com/




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From: "William "Chops" Westfield" <spam_OUTwestfwTakeThisOuTspammac.com>
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu>
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 11:15:37 AM
Subject: Re: [OT]Spamer, more from Gmail, fewer on hotmail and yahoo.


On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Funny NYPD wrote:

> I was told 80% of the forum spammer are using Gmail

Are using gmail, or are forging gmail FROM addresses?

BillW

2010\02\24@135547 by M. Adam Davis

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Hotmail and Yahoo emails are blocked and filtered so heavily now that
spammers were having a hard time getting through.

Gmail is (was) relatively highly trusted, and so people don't block
such addresses.

Even though Gmail does a (slightly) better job at preventing spammers
from using their service, the opportunity of having a wider reach
(since few block gmail right now) makes it worth the effort.

Gmail uses reCAPTCHA for account creation, and so far the spammers
have found that they can get through it using automated means about 1
in 5 or 1 in 10 attempts.  So while it used to be hard, they now have
the software and technology to create thousands of new gmail accounts
a day.

If you notice, the reCAPTCHA project (now owned by Google) recently
(in the last 2-3 months) changed their image obfuscation noticably.
This is due to the arms race between Google and spammers.

So yes, Google is taking action, but no - even a company as 'smart'
and 'powerful' as google is going to have a hard time in the arms race
compared to unscrupulous people who get a significant profit from
spam, botnets, and phishing schemes.

-Adam

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Funny NYPD <funnynypdspamKILLspamyahoo.com> wrote:
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2010\02\24@232433 by Sean Breheny

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I've always been curious...just HOW do people actually make money from spam?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:55 PM, M. Adam Davis <.....stienmanKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
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> So yes, Google is taking action, but no - even a company as 'smart'
> and 'powerful' as google is going to have a hard time in the arms race
> compared to unscrupulous people who get a significant profit from
> spam, botnets, and phishing schemes.
>
> -Adam
>

2010\02\25@032317 by Tamas Rudnai

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There are loads of pharmacy companies in india for example where they
couldn't enter to the western market as lack of technology/hygiene
problems and/or unable to say for the tests or because they violate a
patent etc. They only could reach people like this. Why people here
buy untrusted pills? Because it is much cheaper. Also there are loads
of scam so the goods never arrives but who would claim and where if
they should reveal their sexual problems by doing that? :) Tamás

On 2/25/10, Sean Breheny <EraseMEshb7spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTcornell.edu> wrote:
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2010\02\25@032452 by Tamas Rudnai

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say = pay but this t9 tricked me :)

On 2/25/10, Tamas Rudnai <@spam@tamas.rudnaiKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
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