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2006\09\28@065540 by cdb

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Some time ago Dick Smith Australia had a special offer on some Piher rotary encoders, since then they've cleared their stocks.

DS New Zealand, still has some, so I promptly ordered some, only to discover it is shop stock only. Helpfully DSNZ are sending me an automated update each week telling me they are on backorder.

It is obvious that these are an end of line, so you'd think some genius would say ' wait a minute chaps, we're not selling many through our shops and here we have an internet order, lets consolidate and clear  some of our slow moving stuff '.

I would order from Mouser in the US, but they've recently gone barmy with international order pricing and are demanding U$36.00 - which incidentally still makes them cheaper than Farnell (who are also deleting this item) taking into account the item price difference.

What is it with electronics suppliers and their enormous P&P costs - Rapid in the UK will only export with minimum order of GBP175.00 and then charge an astronomical amount for P&P as well, as for Maplin, well don't get me started there!.

Rant over!!!

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2006\09\28@070743 by Chris Gavin-Egan

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That worries me slightly as I am emigrating from UK to NZ in the next 2
months... Do I need to stock up on hobbyist bits and bobs LOL ?

Is there an equivalent to RS components over there ? - I know that
Jaycar exists and Dick Smith is much like Maplins now (more of a toy
store for cheap chinese imports than electronics component supplier)

Chris

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2006\09\28@073223 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Is there an equivalent to RS components over there ?

Both RS and Farnell have an NZ presence. I know Farnell used to have their
warehouse in Australia, with an NZ phone number, and orders were delivered
next day by airfreight. RS used to have an NZ warehouse in Auckland, I don't
know if they still do.



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2006\09\28@080905 by Tony Smith

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> >Is there an equivalent to RS components over there ?
>
> Both RS and Farnell have an NZ presence. I know Farnell used
> to have their warehouse in Australia, with an NZ phone
> number, and orders were delivered next day by airfreight. RS
> used to have an NZ warehouse in Auckland, I don't know if
> they still do.
>


And neither are overly hobbiest friendly, at least price-wise.  Their
onesy-twosy prices seem to be set at f*** o** prices, meaning they'd rather
not have you bothering them for a couple of resistors and a cap.

Yeah, and DSE is a waste of space these days.  They also seem to hire the
people McDonalds reject, and those that DSE reject go on to work for Tandy
(Radio Shack).

Tony

2006\09\28@102342 by Dave Lag

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Tony Smith wrote:
 > And neither are overly hobbiest friendly, at least price-wise.  Their
> onesy-twosy prices seem to be set at f*** o** prices, meaning they'd rather
> not have you bothering them for a couple of resistors and a cap.
>
> Yeah, and DSE is a waste of space these days.  They also seem to hire the
> people McDonalds reject, and those that DSE reject go on to work for Tandy
> (Radio Shack).
>
> Tony

At LEAST you guys have something that is a notch above Radio Shack :)


2006\09\28@113016 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Some time ago Dick Smith Australia had a special offer on
> some Piher rotary encoders, since then they've cleared their stocks.

something like http://www.voti.nl/shop/p/SW-ROT.html ?

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\09\28@121312 by Russell McMahon

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>> Both RS and Farnell have an NZ presence. I know Farnell used

> And neither are overly hobbiest friendly, at least price-wise.
> Their
> onesy-twosy prices seem to be set at f*** o** prices, meaning they'd
> rather
> not have you bothering them for a couple of resistors and a cap.

Both are horrendously expensive for most things at any volume. But
they have some occasional bargains. I use them as an invaluable source
of development components BUT about never for any volumes.

> Yeah, and DSE is a waste of space these days.

I buy many end of line components when they special them. Actually get
good prices that way :-). Jaycar are still useful.


       Russell

2006\09\28@121405 by Russell McMahon

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> >Is there an equivalent to RS components over there ?
>
> Both RS and Farnell have an NZ presence. I know Farnell used to have
> their
> warehouse in Australia, with an NZ phone number, and orders were
> delivered
> next day by airfreight. RS used to have an NZ warehouse in Auckland,
> I don't
> know if they still do.

Still both the same.
Farnell I can order from till about 6pm and it arrives on the doorstep
at 7am next morning. Having come the better part of 2000 miles over
water !!!!



       Russell



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2006\09\28@124735 by Tony Smith

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> >> Both RS and Farnell have an NZ presence. I know Farnell used
>
> > And neither are overly hobbiest friendly, at least price-wise.
> > Their
> > onesy-twosy prices seem to be set at f*** o** prices,
> meaning they'd
> > rather not have you bothering them for a couple of resistors and a
> > cap.
>
> Both are horrendously expensive for most things at any
> volume. But they have some occasional bargains. I use them as
> an invaluable source of development components BUT about
> never for any volumes.
>
> > Yeah, and DSE is a waste of space these days.
>
> I buy many end of line components when they special them.
> Actually get good prices that way :-). Jaycar are still useful.


I thought Farnell & RS had reasonable volume prices.  Not that I've checked
lately.  Oh well!

I remember thinking a device to clip onto shower heads to show temp & volume
would be useful, then seeing DSE (maybe Jaycar) a few days later dumping the
exact same thing.  Guess I was a few years too late.

I'm a bit annoyed at missing out on the encoders.  Dang.  I could have used
a few, but not at $AU 10 each.

Tony

2006\09\28@132227 by Jon Chandler

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> Yeah, and DSE is a waste of space these days.  They also seem to hire the
> people McDonalds reject, and those that DSE reject go on to work for Tandy
> (Radio Shack).
>
> Tony
>
>  

We used to have a local electronics supplier in Seattle who employed
"Dr. No."  It didn't matter what
you asked for, the answer was always "No.  We don't have those."  He'd
say that before you could
even tell him what you wanted.

One day we were looking for some crimp connectors.  We even found what
we wanted....they had
sample packages glued to a display board.  We went over to Dr. No.

"Do you have....."
"No.  We don't have anything like that."
"But there's a package right over there on the 6' x 6' display board."
"We don't carry those anymore."
"Oh, well, could you sell us the package glued to the display?"
"No.  They are for display only."
"But if you don't carry them, why is the display even here."
"No.  You can't buy that package."
...

The discussion went on for a while, and finally, since we weren't going
to give up easily since we
had looked everywhere else, Dr. No finally agreed to give us 3 of the
connectors out the the
package of 25.


And they wonder why they went broke.....geez


2006\09\28@145201 by Roy

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Hey Russell and any other NZ, Aussie and also other international list
members.

I have started looking at the http://www.soanarplus.com catalogue, they sent it
free of charge after an email enquiry and then rang me to see what my
particular requirements are.

Very good service to that point, as I have not even placed an order yet.

There prices seem to be very good and they do not mind dealing with
individuals, you can also order on line.

They Aussie based in this part of the world.

PS I do not have any other association with this company.

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Atmel AVR

Roy Hopkins
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New Zealand
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2006\09\28@183642 by Howard Winter

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Dave,

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:23:53 -0400, Dave Lag wrote:

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> At LEAST you guys have something that is a notch above Radio Shack :)

But we don't have Radio Shack (Tandy as it was called) here in the UK any more - all their shops are now Carphone Warehouse.

Cheers,



Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\09\28@194405 by Dave Lag

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Howard Winter wrote:
> Dave,
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:23:53 -0400, Dave Lag wrote:
>
>>...
>>At LEAST you guys have something that is a notch above Radio Shack :)
>
> But we don't have Radio Shack (Tandy as it was called) here in the UK any more - all their shops are now Carphone Warehouse.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Howard Winter
> St.Albans, England


Canadian stores (mostly small, mall based) had a (IIRC) management
buy-out who then did an end run and sneakily sold out to Circuit City, a
large US chain of big box electronics.
Now called "The Source". Of what I'm not sure...

2006\09\29@053002 by cdb

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:: something like http://www.voti.nl/shop/p/SW-ROT.html ?

That is almost what I'm looking for! The Piher ones have the integral pushbutton, but I reckon I might order a swodge or two from you.

Colin

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2006\09\29@082905 by Howard Winter

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Colin,

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:31:13 +1000, cdb wrote:

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>
> :: something like http://www.voti.nl/shop/p/SW-ROT.html ?
>
> That is almost what I'm looking for! The Piher ones have the integral pushbutton, but I reckon I might order a swodge or two from you.

Spehro was selling these a while ago - I bought a couple.  He isn't advertising them on eBay so I don't know if he has any left.

Cheers,





Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\09\29@111722 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> > That is almost what I'm looking for! The Piher ones have
> the integral pushbutton, but I reckon I might order a swodge
> or two from you.

A type with switch will be added - but I don't yet know when.

Wouter van Ooijen

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