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'[OT]Big problem with SuSe 11.1 and KDE 4.1.3'
2009\02\19@001647 by cdb

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I had SuSe 11 and decided to upgrade to 11.1 install went fine, even
managed to not overwrite the Vista BCD that is on the same laptop.

SuSe is 'weird' in that by default it auto logs a user in - probably
to grab Windows users. I changed the log in to be, well by login and
have had the following problem ever since.

I get the SuSe splash screen and the user login box, enter my details
and either of the following happen.

1. Logs in and screen goes black error message box pops up "Cannot
initialise Plasma" and that is it, or,

2. Login screen just hangsand system needs a reboot.

However, I can log in as Root and then start a new session and log in
to my user account from there - weird!

I thought a config file might be corrupted, so I deleted my user name
and set up a new user - although the old user files are deleted, it
still appears as a choice in the log in screen - my main beef though
is that I can't log straight into my user account.

Any 'nix/Linux guru's here have any idea what I should tinker with to
get this going?

Thanks

Colin
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2009\02\19@014945 by Jake Anderson

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cdb wrote:
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sounds like it might be an ownership issue perhaps of your home directory
ie you will want to chown and chgrp your home directory

do a failed login and let it sit where it falls
then press ctrl + alt + F1 to get a terminal
then try tail/var/log/syslog (or /var/log/messages depending on stuff)
also try tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log to have a look there.
(you might want to nano the xorg log rather than just tail, its easier
to page through stuff that way)

2009\02\19@043216 by solarwind

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Ya man.

Find a way to get into the terminal, using the ctrl+alt+Fx keys. Login
with your regular user first and pastebin the following files:

~/.xsession-errors
/etc/X11/xorg.conf

and if you want to try a really simply method, log into a shell and type this:

rm -rf ~/.kde*

You'll be deleting your kde configuration for your user so you can
start fresh. This should work (seeing as you can login using root). So
if you don't mind losing your kde configuration settings, type the
above command.

Also, stop using SUSE, as RPM distributions fail in general. And KDE
4.2 was released recently, it fixes a LOT of things, find a way to use
it.

2009\02\19@130134 by Michael Algernon

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>
> On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:15 PM, cdb wrote:
>
> I had SuSe 11 and decided to upgrade to 11.1 install went fine, even
> managed to not overwrite the Vista BCD that is on the same laptop.
>
> SuSe is 'weird' in that by default it auto logs a user in - probably
> to grab Windows users. I changed the log in to be, well by login and
> have had the following problem ever since.

This is a great resource
http://www.cluedenver.org/
MA


2009\02\19@201913 by cdb

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:: sounds like it might be an ownership issue perhaps of your home
:: directory
:: ie you will want to chown and chgrp your home directory
::
:: do a failed login and let it sit where it falls
:: then press ctrl + alt + F1 to get a terminal
:: then try tail/var/log/syslog (or /var/log/messages depending on
:: stuff)
:: also try tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log to have a look there.
:: (you might want to nano the xorg log rather than just tail, its
:: easier
:: to page through stuff that way)

Thanks for the reply.

I just get No such file or directory when i try the above.

something I have just noticed is that with a failed login, if I go to
any terminal and then ctrl+alt+F7 back to the UI, the screen no longer
shows the log in gui, but is just black with a mouse pointer. Makes me
even more suspicious it's a Xserver problem.

Colin
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2009\02\19@205547 by cdb

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:: Find a way to get into the terminal, using the ctrl+alt+Fx keys.
:: Login
:: with your regular user first and pastebin the following files:
::
:: ~/.xsession-errors
:: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

No errors listed.

What am I looking for in xorg.conf, bearing in mind that in root this
starts OK?

:: and if you want to try a really simply method, log into a shell
:: and type this:
::
:: rm -rf ~/.kde*

I'm loathe to bulk delete as I have some stuff that I don't want to
lose.

Thanks

Colin
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2009\02\19@212942 by solarwind

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:54 PM, cdb <colinspamKILLspambtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
> No errors listed.

If you don't post the files, I find it very difficult to help. Unless,
by no errors posted, you mean the file is completely blank, which for
some reason I doubt a tad bit.

> What am I looking for in xorg.conf, bearing in mind that in root this
> starts OK?

Again, can't help if you don't post the files.

> I'm loathe to bulk delete as I have some stuff that I don't want to
> lose.

You wont lose anything except your settings and possibly custom
installed plasmoids depending on how you installed them. If you don't
want to lose them, try this instead:

- get into a terminal and log in as regular user
- tar cvzf dot_kde.tar.gz ~/.kde* -> makes an archive of your .kde* stuff
- rm -rf ~/.kde* <- deletes your kde stuff
- now reboot the computer and try logging in again, tell me what happens

Trust me, when it comes to Linux, I know what I'm talking about... -.-

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2009\02\19@222925 by cdb

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:: Trust me, when it comes to Linux, I know what I'm talking about...
:: -.-

At no point have I said you don't know what you are talking about.

At no point did you ask me to post any contents of either of these
files.

The tone of your post has irritated me, obviously other posters styles
have been of great influence to you.

Thank you for your suggestions.

Colin
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2009\02\19@225502 by solarwind

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:28 PM, cdb <EraseMEcolinspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTbtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
> At no point did you ask me to post any contents of either of these
> files.

Yeah I did... You probably didn't get my email or didn't read it completely...

;; Find a way to get into the terminal, using the ctrl+alt+Fx keys. Login
;; with your regular user first and pastebin the following files:

;; ~/.xsession-errors
;; /etc/X11/xorg.conf

> The tone of your post has irritated me, obviously other posters styles
> have been of great influence to you.

Great, have a chat with them then :)

2009\02\19@231012 by solarwind

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:28 PM, cdb <colinspamspam_OUTbtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
> The tone of your post has irritated me, obviously other posters styles
> have been of great influence to you.

See, that's what I picked up on :) If you're good at something, you
get to be an arrogant jerk about it.

Just kidding. I'm showing the retards that their attitude must change -.-

2009\02\20@000400 by cdb

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:: ;; Find a way to get into the terminal, using the ctrl+alt+Fx
:: keys. Login
:: ;; with your regular user first and pastebin the following files:

And I am supposed to know what pastebin means?

I thought it was some sort of 'nix command or nerd type slang. If you
intend to help people, first make sure they understand what you are
talking about. It can be done without being patronising!

My xsession-errors file was empty, so I deleted it and tried again. I
now have (according to VIM) over 1000 entries in the file, and having
followed your instructions, no program will now instantiate under Root
from within the GUI - apart from Dolphin and Mozilla.

When I'm in the mood, I'l try re-installing the whole thing again.

Hmm, now the person who recommended SuSe to me is on this list YOU
know who you are!




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2009\02\20@010603 by solarwind

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:03 AM, cdb <KILLspamcolinKILLspamspambtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
> And I am supposed to know what pastebin means?

Yeah, just as I am supposed to know what "RTFM" means and so on.

http://pastebin.com/

> I thought it was some sort of 'nix command or nerd type slang. If you
> intend to help people, first make sure they understand what you are
> talking about. It can be done without being patronising!

Same advice I am trying to give some list members.

> My xsession-errors file was empty, so I deleted it and tried again. I
> now have (according to VIM) over 1000 entries in the file, and having
> followed your instructions, no program will now instantiate under Root
> from within the GUI - apart from Dolphin and Mozilla.

*face palm* I didn't say delete xsession-errors...

> When I'm in the mood, I'l try re-installing the whole thing again.
>
> Hmm, now the person who recommended SuSe to me is on this list YOU
> know who you are!

SUSE is crap, Ubuntu and ArchLinux for the win!

2009\02\20@032239 by Tamas Rudnai

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:06 AM, solarwind <RemoveMEx.solarwind.xTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:

> SUSE is crap, Ubuntu and ArchLinux for the win!
>

I agree, however, it does not guarantee that Ubuntu will work 'out of box'.
I have spent couple of days to get it work properly (including drivers,
sleep/wakeup problems, network conf etc) on my laptop, but after then it is
way better than anything else.

Tamas
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