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'[OT] cheap hand-held IR transmitters'
2007\08\16@230433 by Tech

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We have a customer looking for the cheapest possible hand-held IR
transmitters they can find. It doesn't matter if they're functional as long
as they have an LED that lights when a button is pressed, and they are
not branded with an manufacturers logo.

It's for an add campaign. They have one working unit that will turn on
a TV when the power button is pressed. The rest of the remotes will
not affect the TV, and be throw aways after the add campaign.

Does anyone know of a source for super cheap hand-held IR transmitters?

They're looking for quantities in the 1,000 or 2,500 or 5,000 range.

Regards,

Bruce
http://www.rentron.com

2007\08\16@234351 by Richard Prosser

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Bruce

Can you get toy remotes? it might be possible to modify one of them
with the real "guts" as the wnner. I'm thinking along the lines of
someting aimed at the very young.

RP

On 17/08/07, spam_OUTtechTakeThisOuTspamrentron.com <.....techKILLspamspam@spam@rentron.com> wrote:
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2007\08\17@001216 by Tech

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> Can you get toy remotes? it might be possible to modify one of them
> with the real "guts" as the wnner. I'm thinking along the lines of
> someting aimed at the very young.
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> RP

They have a TV with its own working remote. This will be mailed out with the
others. One person (the winner I assume) will receive the working remote.

The others will not work with the TV, and end up being throw aways after
the promotional gig.

Toy remotes would work, but they need to be non-branded, have room for
a silk-screen logo, and have an LED that lights when a button is pressed.

I don't think it matters what they look like, or even if they're IR for that matter.

They intend to mail these out, have customers stop by, and try the remote
they received on the TV to see if they're the winner.

I had a link to a manufacturer in HK or Taiwan some years back that had some
excellent deals on non-branded IR transmitters, but darned if I can find it now.

Regards,

-Bruce
http://www.rentron.com


2007\08\17@010032 by Robert Rolf

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tech@rentron.com wrote:

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So basically you only need a 'fake' remote with a non working LED.
Only the 'real' remote will emit IR, presumably modulated.

If you use 'real' IR remotes, what's to prevent someone from reconnecting
the non-working LED, or to figure out what brand of TV is used and 'fake it'.
e.g. use a hidden universal remote (even held by someone else in the room)
to make it look like the 'dummy' remote works?
I am pretty sure the geeks here could make a ring sized remote that could
transmit a perfect replica of a big brand TV IR signal.

Robert
(to make a system secure, you have to think like a crook).



2007\08\17@030517 by Peter P.

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I think that one needs to go to a distributor and tell him exactly what is
needed. Retail remotes are somewhere between $2 and $8 a piece in retail
blisterpack, in small qty (1-10). How cheap were you thinking ? I don't supply
remotes but I have had to deal with similar requirements in the past and the
prices are such that even an injket printed image of a remote controller has
trouble competing. As to branding, there are huge amounts of unbranded cable box
replacement IRs out there. They are unbranded because the cable boxes are
rebranded by the cable cos, and the remotes likewise. So I think that they are
actually made like that. Try Jerrold etc. Also in light of what others have
said, maybe it would be good if the test object (the tv) would use a translator
and not its original IR protocol. Translators can be bought or built. E.g.
translator from GI style cable box IR protocol to TVs functions. Then there
would be 1 GI remote and the rest for another brand.

Peter P.


2007\08\17@093456 by William Couture

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On 8/17/07, techspamKILLspamrentron.com <.....techKILLspamspam.....rentron.com> wrote:

> They have a TV with its own working remote. This will be mailed out with the
> others. One person (the winner I assume) will receive the working remote.
>
> The others will not work with the TV, and end up being throw aways after
> the promotional gig.
>
> Toy remotes would work, but they need to be non-branded, have room for
> a silk-screen logo, and have an LED that lights when a button is pressed.
>
> I don't think it matters what they look like, or even if they're IR for that matter.
>
> They intend to mail these out, have customers stop by, and try the remote
> they received on the TV to see if they're the winner.
>
> I had a link to a manufacturer in HK or Taiwan some years back that had some
> excellent deals on non-branded IR transmitters, but darned if I can find it now.

Dollar Tree  (http://www.dollartree.com) stores around here sometimes (unfortunately
not always) have "universal remotes" for (of course!) $1.00.

They also have "dollar tree direct", if you want to purchase large quantities
of something.  You might want to contact them and see if they have them.
http://www.dollartree.com/dtdirect/direct.cfm

Bill

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2007\08\17@103825 by alan smith

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how about...
 
 www.flashingblinkylights.com/keychainlights/
 
 google "keychain with LED"

     
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2007\08\17@153939 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Aug 17, 2007, at 6:34 AM, William Couture wrote:

> Dollar Tree  (http://www.dollartree.com) stores around here sometimes  
> (unfortunately
> not always) have "universal remotes" for (of course!) $1.00.

Heh.  The problem with these solutions is going to be disabling the  
999 remotes
that you don't want to work. :-)

Why don't you get some of those keychain LED flashlights (well under  
$0.50 each)
and modify ONE of them with a modulation circuit that will cause it  
to activate
your prize TV?  That way, all the losers will at least get a  
flashlight...

BillW

2007\08\21@153918 by Barry Gershenfeld

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Would an advertiser really spend a whole dollar for each unit?  Doesn't
sound like what I've heard.  I think the car alarm fob is closer to what's
desired than a TV remote.

The winning remote could have some kind of authentication in or on it, that
only the sponsor knows.  And the contest rules would state that it has to
match.  Then, spoofing the remote function wouldn't be enough.

Finally, what's the consequence of putting 5,000 batteries in the landfill?

At 11:05 PM 8/16/07 -0600, you wrote:
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2007\08\21@172147 by Kevin Timmerman

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Looks like this company could supply what you need:

http://remotekey.diytrade.com/sdp/182938/4/pd-630862/2311376-0.html

I have seen these remotes with various brand names on them, so make
sure they know you need unbranded units. They appear to be an OEM,
but it is hard to know for sure who actually makes something.


At 01:05 AM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
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2007\08\22@142513 by Tech

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> From: "Kevin Timmerman


> Looks like this company could supply what you need:
>
> remotekey.diytrade.com/sdp/182938/4/pd-630862/2311376-0.html
>
> I have seen these remotes with various brand names on them, so make
> sure they know you need unbranded units. They appear to be an OEM,
> but it is hard to know for sure who actually makes something.

Thanks a bunch Kevin. These look like the ticket.


Regards,

-Bruce
http://www.rentron.com

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