Post by thread:[OT] Water injection (was: Question for physics pe

On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote: > Many garage alchemists > proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram entering > an engine. I don't know if any more traditional scientific studies have > been done. If there have been, the garage guys don't seem to be citing > them, which suggest to me that the alchemist claims are just full of hot, > wet, air. Well, there has actually been a great deal of research into water injection, for petrol engines, jet engines, and diesel engines. Here are a couple of refere nces: http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1957/naca-tn-3922/ This examined water injection for supersonic jet engines. Or there is: (water injection was used during and subsequent to WWII in large radial engines to provide short-term power increase without detonation): Title: Water injection for aircraft engines Publication Date: 1946 Author(s): Rowe, M. R.; Ladd, G. T. Organization(s): Wright Aeronautical Corp., Div. of Curtiss-Wright Corp. Publisher: Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc., Warrendale, Penns ylvania, USA Publisher Segment: SAE SAE Transaction: SAE Trans., Vol. 54 (1946), pp. 26-37, 44 Or, for a whole raft of references (many related to water injection to reduce emissions from diesel engines) try: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/dc/reference/refer.html Cheers, Clyde -- Clyde Smith-Stubbs | HI-TECH Software Email: spam_OUTclydeTakeThisOuThtsoft.com | Phone Fax WWW: http://www.htsoft.com/ | USA: (408) 490 2885 (408) 490 2885 PGP: finger .....clydeKILLspam@spam@htsoft.com | AUS: +61 7 3354 2411 +61 7 3354 2422 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- HI-TECH C: compiling the real world.

Clyde Smith-Stubbs wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote: > > Many garage alchemists > > proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram entering > > an engine. I don't know if any more traditional scientific studies have > > been done. If there have been, the garage guys don't seem to be citing > > them, which suggest to me that the alchemist claims are just full of hot, > > wet, air. I recently saw an article where they showed how water may be mixed with petrol or diesel with supersonic mixers. Apparently the 17% or so water makes the engine super efficient because it runs at a lower temp, and the steam effect of the water gives it a boost. Diesel engines also run quieter. I'd be a bit worried with all that steam in my car's engine though... Not to mention the warrantee that'l fly out the window. -- Friendly Regards Tjaart van der Walt tjaartKILLspamwasp.co.za |--------------------------------------------------| | WASP International | |R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development| |--------------------------------------------------| |SMS .....0832123443KILLspam.....wasp.co.za (160 chars max)| | http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/index.html | |Voice: +27-(0)11-622-8686 Fax: +27-(0)11-622-8973| | WGS-84 : 26¡10.52'S 28¡06.19'E | |--------------------------------------------------|

Clyde Smith-Stubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote: > > Many garage alchemists > > proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram > entering > > an engine... I have done extensive research concerning this. I developed the "aftermarket" engine computer interface units specifically for turbocharged gasoline engines. I discovered that with a mix of 50% distilled water and 50% methanol alcohol, I could raise the turbo pressure to 20 pounds(!:-))) on our test 1984 Mustang SVO without any detonation. Important: never use pure water, it will rust everything in sight! Even a small 5% methanol mix de-ionizes the water molecule so that it no longer acts as a catalyst to promote rust. The additional methanol (50%) cools the air charge to enable massive quantities of power. See ya at Road America... -Dave Miga, EDS, Inc. http://eds-inc.com

while we are on this OT subject, I'm wondering if someone has a circuit or know of a place where I can buy a decoder to figure out the Ford EEC IV error codes? My 92 Mustangs Check engine light stays on and I would like to figure out why? Direct reply to me would be fine (This is way OT as is), if someone else is interested I can forward the email. Thanks -- Jay Shroff Product Development - (Process controls) Fanuc Robotics {Original Message removed}

I am having the same problem on a ford 95 escort, got the Chilton repair manual and the codes are listed for the EEC and am thinking about building a full scale readout using the 16F84 and a display. the manual shows you how to use a VOM and read(?) the needle swings as a readout of the code. later......chuck > {Original Message removed}

>My 92 Mustangs Check engine light stays on and I would like to figure out >why? > >Direct reply to me would be fine (This is way OT as is), if someone else is >interested I can forward the email. There are other lists on the web where the experts live. I was on one for a while on EFI, but lost the subscribe info. Search the web, see what you find. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA ==================================================================