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1998\06\14@230738 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote:
> Many garage alchemists
> proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram entering
> an engine.  I don't know if any more traditional scientific studies have
> been done.  If there have been, the garage guys don't seem to be citing
> them, which suggest to me that the alchemist claims are just full of hot,
> wet, air.

Well, there has actually been a great deal of research into water injection,
for petrol engines, jet engines, and diesel engines. Here are a couple of refere
nces:

http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1957/naca-tn-3922/

This examined water injection for supersonic jet engines.

Or there is: (water injection was used during and subsequent to WWII in large
radial engines to provide short-term power increase without detonation):

Title:                  Water injection for aircraft engines
Publication Date:       1946
Author(s):              Rowe, M. R.; Ladd, G. T.
Organization(s):        Wright Aeronautical Corp., Div. of Curtiss-Wright Corp.
Publisher:              Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc., Warrendale, Penns
ylvania, USA
Publisher Segment:      SAE
SAE Transaction:        SAE Trans., Vol. 54 (1946), pp. 26-37, 44

Or, for a whole raft of references (many related to water injection to reduce
emissions from diesel engines) try:

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/dc/reference/refer.html

Cheers, Clyde

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1998\06\15@011117 by tjaart

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Clyde Smith-Stubbs wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote:
> > Many garage alchemists
> > proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram entering
> > an engine.  I don't know if any more traditional scientific studies have
> > been done.  If there have been, the garage guys don't seem to be citing
> > them, which suggest to me that the alchemist claims are just full of hot,
> > wet, air.

I recently saw an article where they showed how water may be mixed
with petrol or diesel with supersonic mixers. Apparently the 17% or
so water makes the engine super efficient because it runs at a lower
temp, and the steam effect of the water gives it a boost. Diesel engines
also run quieter. I'd be a bit worried with all that steam in my car's
engine though... Not to mention the warrantee that'l fly out the window.

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1998\06\15@212437 by Dave Miga

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Clyde Smith-Stubbs wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:35:24PM -0400, Mike Keitz wrote:
> > Many garage alchemists
> > proclaim amazing results from injecting water into the airstram
> entering
> > an engine...

I have done extensive research concerning this. I developed the
"aftermarket" engine computer interface units specifically for
turbocharged gasoline engines. I discovered that with a mix of 50%
distilled water and 50% methanol alcohol, I could raise the turbo
pressure to 20 pounds(!:-)))
on our test 1984 Mustang SVO without any detonation. Important: never
use pure water, it will rust everything in sight! Even a small 5%
methanol mix de-ionizes the water molecule so that it no longer acts as
a catalyst to promote rust. The additional methanol (50%) cools the air
charge to enable massive quantities of power. See ya at Road America...

-Dave Miga, EDS, Inc. http://eds-inc.com

1998\06\16@172016 by Jay Shroff

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while we are on this OT subject, I'm wondering if someone has a circuit or
know of a place where I can buy a decoder to figure out the Ford EEC IV
error codes?

My 92 Mustangs Check engine light stays on and I would like to figure out
why?

Direct reply to me would be fine (This is way OT as is), if someone else is
interested I can forward the email.

Thanks
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Jay Shroff
Product Development - (Process controls)
Fanuc Robotics

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1998\06\17@085047 by Thurman, Chuck
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I am having the same problem on a ford 95 escort,  got the Chilton repair
manual and the codes are listed for the EEC and am thinking about building a
full scale readout using the 16F84 and a display.  the manual shows you how
to use a VOM and read(?) the needle swings as a readout of the code.
later......chuck

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1998\06\17@085236 by Andy Kunz

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>My 92 Mustangs Check engine light stays on and I would like to figure out
>why?
>
>Direct reply to me would be fine (This is way OT as is), if someone else is
>interested I can forward the email.

There are other lists on the web where the experts live.  I was on one for
a while on EFI, but lost the subscribe info.

Search the web, see what you find.

Andy


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1998\06\18@013755 by Graham, Peter

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Jay

There is a tech / discussion page for the EEC IV at

http://www.iaw.com/~aubertin/88mgt/eec-iv/eec-iv.htm

They will either have the right info or will point you in the right
direction.

Peter G.

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