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2000\03\30@154251 by wft

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Hello PICsters

I believe I need to say more here.
1)  I have never gotten a speeding ticket (radar or otherwise)
2)  In Denver, the police set up photo radar on a major highway
     which has a 55mph limit.  Most of the day, heavy traffic moves
at 65 to 70 mph.  The police were able to collect $220,000 worth
of tickets in a very short time.

My interest is in making a product to sell.  I believe speed traps of this
sort are immoral and should be resisted.  Many highways in Colorado
had their speed limit upgraded from 55 to 75 mph in recent years.  No
change was made to the highways other than changing the speed limit
signs.  Obviously, driving 75 mph on one of those highways before the
speed upgrade was safe if everyone was doing it. (Which was pretty
much the case)

Gus

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2000\03\30@161944 by Don Hyde

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I tend to agree here about ridiculous speed limits being abused.  Really, of
course, we should get rid of the ridiculous speed limits and their abuse by
cops.

I live in a suburb of New Orleans which is reached via a looooooong
causeway.  It has a 55mph limit, but traffic almost always goes about 65.  A
scandal has recently erupted in which it appears that the causeway police
have been using selective enforcement of the speed limit and other
harrassment to implement a "racial filter", to keep the usual minorities out
of our near-lily-white yuppie suburb.

Stuff like that makes it really difficult to respect the law.

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2000\03\30@170542 by David VanHorn

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Right idea, wrong approach.

The core problem as I see it, is the speed limits aren't adequately enforced.
If they were, traffic would be at 55 (per the sign) or the sign would get
changed.

When I lived on military bases, they had speed limits at 20, and ticketed
at 22.
You almost never saw anyone speeding, that didn't have red lights on the car.

Their system went one better for the teen driver.  Your points went on your
dad's record, so if you screwed around on base too much, your dad wouln't
be allowed to drive on base either.  It's an effective system.
I only got hit once, because I was looking at the tach, instead of the
speedo. (58 alpha sprint, they are VERY similar)

I'm thoroughly against "revenue enhancement" either by speed traps, or this
"forfiture" deal which is so popular in the south.  But this isn't the way
to fix it.

As for tailgaiters, slowing down ALWAYS works. Trust me.  I'm the guy going
through a construction zone at the posted limit with the pissed off big rig
driver behind me.

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2000\03\30@225314 by steve

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> I only got hit once, because I was looking at the tach, instead of the
> speedo. (58 alpha sprint, they are VERY similar)

Hmmm .. I'm going 3500mph and only doing 58rpm. Maybe I should
downshift.
:-)

Steve
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2000\03\30@230814 by David VanHorn

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At 03:46 PM 3/31/00 +1200, Steve Baldwin wrote:
>> I only got hit once, because I was looking at the tach, instead of the
>> speedo. (58 alpha sprint, they are VERY similar)
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>Hmmm .. I'm going 3500mph and only doing 58rpm. Maybe I should
>downshift.

Actually, it was 22 mph and 2000 RPM.  "20" on the tach.

I hadn't been driving that long.

The first time out in that car, I thought the clutch thing was going to be
really hard to get right. Then I discovered it was in 5th gear when I
thought it was in first.

That was a fun car.  It was VERY well designed, I would buy one today if I
could find one.
Later, after I got my gears sorted out, I only used the clutch for getting
started from a standstill, the synchro was SO good, I could go all the way
up and back down w/o the clutch..

I also learned how to cope with a total hydraulic failure one evening,
sailing into a turn when one of the bleed fittings on the brakes cracked in
two and left me with only the hand brake at a rather awkward moment.

My dad removed the 2000cc racing engine that was originally in it (drat!)
and put in a 1300, which was not nearly as safe as he thought. The front
end tended to go airborne because of the slight up angle from the reduced
weight. I found this out one day when I tried to change lanes and
discovered the steering had no effect at all. Letting off the throttle
caused the front tires to land again, and normal steering resumed.  I had
been getting odd looks from other drivers.. Maybe it was my front wheels
slowly turning in the breeze?

It was a great car though, I used to do laps at the go kart track, and put
in some respectable times, despite turns that were scaled for a vehicle
half that size.. Not as good as a mini, but a damn nice ride inside too.

It had shoulder belts too. in a 1958 car! and they were anchored below your
shoulder, so they didn't cut into your neck!


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2000\03\31@045720 by V sml

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Tail-gate is bad.  Stationery speed camera causes tail-gate.  So
stationery speed camera is worst.

I don't speed.  But I will do to get away for tail-gating.  That was
precisely what happen at speed-camera section of the road.  People
regardless of their traveling all lower the speed which creates a
squeeze at the section.  Once without knowing the present of the
camera, I tried speed pass the squeeze on the overtaking lane.  There
I was ...  So now to avoid fine, I have to put myself in a more
dangerous situation everytime I pass by there.

Cheers,

Ling SM

>As for tailgaiters, slowing down ALWAYS works. Trust me.  I'm the guy
going
through a construction zone at the posted limit with the pissed off
big rig
driver behind me.

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