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'[OT] Time to start visiting the local psychic'
2011\01\10@204921 by RussellMc

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Dangerous subject.
Good if kept at scientific / engineering level.
Easy to slip.


> http://www.rdmag.com/Community/Blogs/RDBlog/Psi-paper-entangled-in-controversy/
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> Psi paper entangled in controversy
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> The paper, which was described last month, is about to be published in a respected journal of pyschology, and is already available at Bem’s website.

Haven't looked at it.
May not get to.

Experiment design and interpretation are utterly key here.
When you measure woolly things, if you then apply woolly metrics you
get, at best,  a nice rug.

Double blind crossover, concise prior definition of expectations,
tight control of any known-possible confounding factors. Independently
reproducible results (often  a fatal hurdle in such areas).  Pass
those and you have the start of a ball game.

Claimed results are possible but unlikely. If ~1% of normal population
showed advanced Esper capabilities it is exceedingly unlikely that it
would only be thought of as it is now. The capability is so 'useful'
that a 1% extremely capable component would stand out severely.

Interestingly, if about 1% showed a 50% gain over random (whatever
that means) may there be a continuum or is it a step function?

I see there is no pre-emptive  message waiting on this thread as I
finish this (GiggleMail knows) so none of Y'All can be in the 1%.

 Russell

2011\01\11@030449 by N. T.

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> Time to start visiting the local psychic

Oda Mae Brown was the best one, a psychic who didn't even realise that
her powers were real. :-

2011\01\11@053129 by Robert Csaba Molnar

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Exactly my thoughts.
NT, you must have some psychic powers also :)
Time to get tested?

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, N. T. <spam_OUTntypesemiTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:

From: N. T. <.....ntypesemiKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Time to start visiting the local psychic
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclistspamKILLspammit.edu>
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 10:04 AM

> Time to start visiting the local psychic

Oda Mae Brown was the best one, a psychic who didn't even realise that
her powers were real. :-

2011\01\11@054346 by RussellMc

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Good point Bob, but I think it can be allowed to run a while yet and
see how it goes.
I agree that such subjects are potentially risky, as I also noted.
And yes, Olin could have been more sensitive, even though obviously
joking,  but no harm done I think.


2011\01\11@081436 by Olin Lathrop

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RussellMc wrote:
> And yes, Olin could have been more sensitive, even though obviously
> joking,  but no harm done I think.

I'm confused, as I haven't posted to this thread at all, at least not
physically thru the klunky old list server.  My dead fish may have been in
telepathic contact.


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2011\01\11@084812 by Oli Glaser

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On 11/01/2011 13:15, Olin Lathrop wrote:
> I'm confused, as I haven't posted to this thread at all

I think it was Russell's PSI at work.. ;-)

2011\01\11@085649 by Michael Watterson

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On 11/01/2011 13:15, Olin Lathrop wrote:
> RussellMc wrote:
>> And yes, Olin could have been more sensitive, even though obviously
>> joking,  but no harm done I think.
> I'm confused, as I haven't posted to this thread at all, at least not
> physically thru the klunky old list server.  My dead fish may have been in
> telepathic contact.
>
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> (978) 742-9014.  Gold level PIC consultants since 2000.
RussellMc was reading the post you just made, via precognition

2011\01\11@091603 by RussellMc

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> RussellMc wrote:
> > And yes, Olin could have been more sensitive, even though obviously
> > joking,  but no harm done I think.

> I'm confused, as I haven't posted to this thread at all, at least not
> physically thru the klunky old list server.  My dead fish may have been in
> telepathic contact.

That will be it then.
Even dead, Babel fish are worth quite a lot.

But, you need to read the rest of he thread in order to make sense of it :-).


R

2011\01\11@131932 by N. T.

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Robert Csaba Molnar wrote:
> Exactly my thoughts.
> NT, you must have some psychic powers also :)
> Time to get tested?

Why are you asking that? Willing to arrange an official invitation to
take tests?
:-

2011\01\11@164319 by IVP

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> I'm confused, as I haven't posted to this thread at all, at least not
> physically thru the klunky old list server.  My dead fish may have
> been in telepathic contact

Now you're just being scary

Where's my blanky......

2011\01\11@174308 by Robert Csaba Molnar

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Well, if it's meant to be you'll guess the time and location :-)

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, N. T. <.....ntypesemiKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

From: N. T. <EraseMEntypesemispam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Time to start visiting the local psychic
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclistspamspam_OUTmit.edu>
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 8:19 PM

Robert Csaba Molnar wrote:
> Exactly my thoughts.
> NT, you must have some psychic powers also :)
> Time to get tested?

Why are you asking that? Willing to arrange an official invitation to
take tests?
:-

2011\01\16@144910 by N. T.

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Robert Csaba Molnar <wrote:
> Well, if it's meant to be you'll guess the time and location :-)
>

Trying hard to develop the idea, the identity of the local psychic as
well as the location/property he resides in is very vague. That's it.
Can't figure out what to do. :-)


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2011\01\17@055824 by Robert Csaba Molnar

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You finally reached the right conclusion :-)


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From: N. T. <TakeThisOuTntypesemiEraseMEspamspam_OUTgmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Time to start visiting the local psychic
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <RemoveMEpiclistspamTakeThisOuTmit.edu>
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 9:48 PM

Robert Csaba Molnar <wrote:
> Well, if it's meant to be you'll guess the time and location :-)
>

Trying hard to develop the idea, the identity of the local psychic as
well as the location/property he resides in is very vague. That's it.
Can't figure out what to do. :-)


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