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2005\05\03@085837 by Russell McMahon

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Got to do it.
Joke wears fairly thin after all these years.
But there's always those who can't figure it out,
which makes it (almost) worthwhile :-).
So:

       May the Fourth be with you.


Here now and for the next 49 or so hours somewhere or other.


   enjoy


               Russell McMahon

2005\05\03@092145 by Lindy Mayfield

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Google returned over a thousand hits on that phrase.  Then I added "may the fourth be with you" rockets.  The closest thing I could find was National Star Wars Day...  Is that correct?


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2005\05\03@094931 by Jinx

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Lift-off !!

(astute readers will have noticed me doing a quiet count down
to Russell's joke)

2005\05\03@101629 by Mark Scoville

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Maybe something to do with "Cinco de Mayo"?  I Dunno. Tomorrow is May 4th.
Tommorow "May the 4th" will be with me - all day long. Maybe that's it.
Can't think about it too much - Got work to do.

-- Mark

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2005\05\03@114335 by Russell McMahon

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> Maybe something to do with "Cinco de Mayo"?  I Dunno. Tomorrow is
> May 4th.
> Tommorow "May the 4th" will be with me - all day long. Maybe that's
> it.
> Can't think about it too much - Got work to do.

Ah - but I'm here and you're there. Where-ever there is.
The US West Coast is about 5 hours ahead of me yesterday. Or about 19
behind. More or less.



       RM

2005\05\03@205849 by Russell McMahon

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Just HAD to pass on this respnse from a friend
Took a moemmnt to get it.
Note date below.
Write tomorrow's date. Omit placeholders.


       RM


> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:26 AM
> Don't forget tomorrow will be the armistice day when we remember all
> of
> those electronic designs that were complete failures because they
> included
> that certain timer chip.

2005\05\03@211726 by Brent Brown

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The certain timer chip deserves it's own day...25hrs? Nah, just kidding...very
popular and a good preformer all round.

> Just HAD to pass on this respnse from a friend
> Took a moemmnt to get it.
> Note date below.
> Write tomorrow's date. Omit placeholders.
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:26 AM
> > Don't forget tomorrow will be the armistice day when we remember all
> > of those electronic designs that were complete failures because they
> > included that certain timer chip.


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2005\05\03@223937 by Russell McMahon

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> The certain timer chip deserves it's own day...25hrs? Nah, just
> kidding...very
> popular and a good preformer all round.

That's what the post was about.
The day is tomorrow.
Look at the date,

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2005\05\04@013756 by Russell McMahon

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>> The certain timer chip deserves it's own day...25hrs? Nah, just
>> kidding...very
>> popular and a good preformer all round.

Not all round.
The bipolar version has some nasty features. Large supply rail spike
at switching due to shoot through being one. The capacitor
charge/discharge arrangement partially sharing the same component
path, which is common by definition to all variants is also less than
ideal.

>>> > Don't forget tomorrow will be the armistice day when we remember
>>> > all of those electronic designs that were complete failures
>>> > because they included that certain timer chip.

The Swedes (and some military) no doubt also have special days for the
dual version this coming Thursday and the quad version this coming
Saturday.


       RM

2005\05\04@111549 by R. I. Nelson

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Russell McMahon wrote:

>> Maybe something to do with "Cinco de Mayo"?  I Dunno.
>
Have I got this wrong or is this supposed to be about STAR WARS  and
"may the FORCE be with you.  Or is there some other joke here.

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2005\05\04@114220 by Dave VanHorn

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Well, tomorrow is 555 day.

2005\05\04@115129 by Dal Wheeler

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Dave VanHorn wrote:

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> Well, tomorrow is 555 day.
>  


> At which time nerds the world over will play with their analog
> oscillators all day long.  :)

2005\05\04@121925 by Alan B. Pearce

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Oh you mean election day in the UK ;)))

Maybe we will get rid of tony after all ;0

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2005\05\04@124745 by Ake Hedman

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And next year on the Swedish national holiday we will have 666...  Lets see what the "doomsday/ /people" will make out of that... ;.)

/Ake

Alan B. Pearce wrote:

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2005\05\04@134551 by Mark Jordan

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       "666" is old news. Recent archeological findings point to "616".

       Mark Jordan

On 4 May 2005 at 18:47, Ake Hedman wrote:

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2005\05\04@135323 by James Newton, Host

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Ok, this makes no sense... There was a 505 timer chip? Or a 0505? The only
one I know is 555 and it works great so why would designs with it be
failures?

I hate it when there is an inside joke and I'm outside...

<GRIN>

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James.



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2005\05\04@144428 by Lindy Mayfield

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He said "May the Fourth be with you."  Or, May 4th - be with you.  And it is written like "May the Force be with you" from Star Wars.  Forth is also a programming language which uses RPN (reverse Polish notation).  Russell is also into rocketry, and on this day in 1967 Lunar Orbiter 4 was launched to orbit the moon.  The day after today is also Ascension Day, which this year is 555 like the timer chip.  And on this day in 1626 the Indians sold Manhattan island for $24 in cloth and buttons.

Seems clear as mud to me.


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2005\05\04@151919 by Mark Scoville

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616? What are we gonna do now. Is "the end" June 1st 2006 or 6th of Jan 2006
:)

-- Mark

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2005\05\04@152156 by Eric Jorgensen

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A prison newbie is sitting around with the old timers.
Every once in awhile one of them would call out some
number like 505 or 555 and everyone would laugh. The
newbie asked the guy next to him what the numbers
meant.

"We've all told the same jokes over and over so many
times we decided to just give them numbers. It's
easier."

The newbie, not wanting to be left out, shouted out a
number and everyone just stared at him. "What did I do
wrong?" he asked the guy next to him.

"Some guys just can't tell a joke," the old-timer told
him.

Eric
KE6US


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2005\05\04@154316 by James Newtons Massmind

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> Well, tomorrow is 555 day.

How are people getting 555 from May 5th? At best it is 55 or 505 or 0505 or
055. There is no month 55 or....

Oh, wait... 2005/5/5

Now I get it.... Sheesh...

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James.



2005\05\04@182525 by Russell McMahon

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> Well, tomorrow is 555 day.

As already noted :-).
And day after is 556 (dual) day and Sunday is 558 (quad) BUT only if
you live in Sweden or are in some nations military.


       RM

2005\05\05@040509 by Alan B. Pearce

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>A prison newbie is sitting around with the old timers.
>Every once in awhile one of them would call out some
>number like 505 or 555 and everyone would laugh.
...
>The newbie, not wanting to be left out, shouted out a
>number and everyone just stared at him. "What did I do
>wrong?" he asked the guy next to him.
>
>"Some guys just can't tell a joke," the old-timer told
>him.

Well that is a variation on the monks doing the same, but with a different
result.

2005\05\05@101725 by Dal Wheeler

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Alan B. Pearce wrote:

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Hah, er wait... Which joke number was that?

2005\05\06@121802 by Lindy Mayfield

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Can you please explain the joke for the rest of us now that the time is past?  I'm starting to loose sleep over it. (-:


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2005\05\06@124402 by Rob Young

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> Can you please explain the joke for the rest of us now that the time is
> past?  I'm starting to loose sleep over it. (-:

Play on words for the Star Wars movies tag line "May the force be with you".

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2005\05\06@130345 by Lindy Mayfield

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Yeah but.  But.  I mean.  Of course it's that, but I mean, it has to be more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?  

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2005\05\06@142104 by Rob Young

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> Yeah but.  But.  I mean.  Of course it's that, but I mean, it has to be
> more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?
>

You were expecting something from Russel's post let alone Star Wars to be
deep? ;-)

Rob Young

2005\05\06@154358 by Lindy Mayfield

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Oh, well, sort of.  (-:

A google on "may the fourth be with you" turned up 1,670 hits.  I thought it might have something to do with rockets.  Then people started talking about 555 chips, which no good rocket would be without, and I started expecting a puzzle like in the da Vinci Code.

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> Yeah but.  But.  I mean.  Of course it's that, but I mean, it has to be
> more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?
>

You were expecting something from Russel's post let alone Star Wars to be
deep? ;-)

Rob Young

2005\05\06@154539 by Mark Scoville
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Ok, here is my take on this - maybe I'm just as screwy as Russell (or maybe
moreso). I don't think it has anything to do with Star Wars. The similarity
to "May the FORCE be with you" is simply a clever way to confuse people.

Russells original post...

>>        May the Fourth be with you.
>>
>>Here now and for the next 49 or so hours somewhere or other.

Somewhere on earth (probably where Russell lives) it becomes May 4th before
it does so in any other time zone. So, it's May 4th for Russell - but not
for all the other time zones yet. For this discussion assume that there are
only 24 distinct time zones each 1 hour apart. So, 1 hour later it becomes
May 4th in the next time zone. Now it is May 4th in 2 time zones... and so
on. So each hour another time zone is added to the ones that have a current
date of "May 4th". After the first time zone has had it's 24 hours of May
4th the "last time zone still has another 23 hours of May 4th to go. Hence
the "for the next 49 or so hours somewhere or other". (I think it might
really be "the next 47 or so", but I'm not going to bother figuring it out)

Jeez, I can't believe I'm trying to explain this. Ok, whatever, it's Star
Wars.

-- Mark

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> > Yeah but.  But.  I mean.  Of course it's that, but I mean, it has to be
> > more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?
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> You were expecting something from Russel's post let alone Star Wars to be
> deep? ;-)
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> Rob Young
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2005\05\06@163756 by William Chops Westfield

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On May 6, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:

> it has to be more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?

No.  Well, typically you might string along a "sucker":

    "Happy Star Wars day!"
Huh?
    "Star wars day.  You know."
no.  never heard of it.  What's 'star wars day'?
    "well, you know the date, right?"
Um.  May 4th?
    "Right.  May the 4th be with you!"
(groan.)

It doesn't translate so well to email.

And you know why programmers keep getting halloween and christmas
confused,
right?

BillW

2005\05\06@171105 by Dal Wheeler

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Nah, it has to do with an RPN type programming language.

You need more credibility if you didn't immediately think of that. :)

Dilbert:
http://scott.yang.id.au/2004/11/credibility-in-dress-code/

Mark Scoville wrote:

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2005\05\06@175547 by Lindy Mayfield

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Because dec 25 is oct 31?

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On May 6, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:

> it has to be more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?

No.  Well, typically you might string along a "sucker":

    "Happy Star Wars day!"
Huh?
    "Star wars day.  You know."
no.  never heard of it.  What's 'star wars day'?
    "well, you know the date, right?"
Um.  May 4th?
    "Right.  May the 4th be with you!"
(groan.)

It doesn't translate so well to email.

And you know why programmers keep getting halloween and christmas
confused,
right?

BillW

2005\05\06@233112 by Russell McMahon

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>> Yeah but.  But.  I mean.  Of course it's that, but I mean, it has
>> to be more deep than that because that was too obvious, no?

> You were expecting something from Russel's post let alone Star Wars
> to be deep? ;-)

1.    What is the sound of one dog barking?

2.    Not everyone is as incisive as Lindy :-). It's truly amazing how
many people look at you completely blankly and have to have it spelt
out word by word. rather makes it unworthwhile. If it ever was.

3.    People have queried how 5/5/5 (0r 5/5/05 (inconsistently))
relates to an unsuccessful timer as they consider it works well. That
was an opinion from a group of friends of mine who consider the 555 an
abomination, an opinion I only partially share. The original ones had
(and have) a very very nasty supply spike at switching time due to
totem pole shoot through. They are also not nicely planned in the
charge and discharge area. CMOS implementations fix the supply spike
by not having any hair on their chest for driving loads. My friends
maintain that you can do a better job as easily using better
technology. I consider that despite its faults the 555 is a useful
building block as long as you are aware of its shortcomings. applies
to many ICs.



       RM


2005\05\06@233113 by Russell McMahon

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Good explanation.
When we have daylight saving in NZ each day lasts 49 hours or 2 + 1/24
earth rotation. When we don't have daylight saving it's 48 hours.
Tonga cheat and place themselves across the boundary in order to get
Y2K benefits. If THEY had daylighty savings then each day would last
50 hours :-)

> ... Ok, whatever, it's Star Wars.

That too :-)



       RM

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