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'[OT] Thanks for all the help everyone!'
2009\02\17@212805 by Ian Smith

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I wanted to send a general thanks to the list for all the help I have
recieved when I posted a question.

Also, I wanted to send thanks for all the help I got from questions I
didn't post to the list!

The list is so full of people who know their stuff, when I finally am
stumped and resort to posting a question, I am very carefull to document
and check everything out because I don't want to feel stupid by missing
something simple.  And the best part is I tend to solve most of my
problems while I an writing the question. :-)

An example was today.. I was trying to figure out why I could not get AN4
to read any values correctly.  I had this code...

       trisa.0 = 1;
       trisa.1 = 1;
       trisa.2 = 1;
       trisa.3 = 1;
       trisa.4 = 1;

While writing an email to the list I finally realised that on the
PIC18F252, AN4 is on pin RA5, so that last tris should be a 5.  Duh!

Glad I didn't post it and let everyone know I spent hours on this.  :-)

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Ian Smith
http://www.ian.org

2009\02\17@214537 by Vitaliy

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Ian Smith wrote:
> I wanted to send a general thanks to the list for all the help I have
> recieved when I posted a question.
>
> Also, I wanted to send thanks for all the help I got from questions I
> didn't post to the list!
>
> The list is so full of people who know their stuff, when I finally am
> stumped and resort to posting a question, I am very carefull to document
> and check everything out because I don't want to feel stupid by missing
> something simple.  And the best part is I tend to solve most of my
> problems while I an writing the question. :-)

I often find myself in the same situation. :-)  It happens in real life too:
I would walk over to someone to explain the problem and ask a question, but
by the time I'm done explaining the problem, I know the answer. Another
engineer used to do the same thing to me, and finally I suggested that he
should make a life-sized cardboard cutout of me, since he would get roughly
the same amount of feedback.


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Don't you hate the feeling that Olin is looking over your shoulder while
you're writing the email? I mean "Olin" in a generic sense... ;)

Vitliy

2009\02\17@214759 by solarwind

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Ian Smith <spam_OUTpiclistTakeThisOuTspamian.org> wrote:
> Glad I didn't post it and let everyone know I spent hours on this.  :-)

No one will ever know :)

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solarwind

2009\02\17@222335 by solarwind

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam@spam@maksimov.org> wrote:
> Don't you hate the feeling that Olin is looking over your shoulder while
> you're writing the email? I mean "Olin" in a generic sense... ;)

I feel ya man...

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solarwind

2009\02\17@224042 by Jinx

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> And the best part is I tend to solve most of my problems while I am
> writing the question. :-)

It often works out that way. In trying to explain it to someone else you
realise the real problem - at last !!!! - and what the answer is


2009\02\18@020313 by Vitaliy

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solarwind wrote:
>> Don't you hate the feeling that Olin is looking over your shoulder while
>> you're writing the email? I mean "Olin" in a generic sense... ;)
>
> I feel ya man...

LOL!

2009\02\18@103421 by Rolf

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solarwind wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Vitaliy <spamspamKILLspammaksimov.org> wrote:
>  
>> Don't you hate the feeling that Olin is looking over your shoulder while
>> you're writing the email? I mean "Olin" in a generic sense... ;)
>>    
>
> I feel ya man...
>
>  
I am more concerned about the people who have unanswered questions that
still refrain from posting in order to prevent an altercation. People
are scared of posting to piclist, even those who have done adequate
preparation with real questions....

Rolfff

2009\02\18@110901 by Vitaliy

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Rolf wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam.....maksimov.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't you hate the feeling that Olin is looking over your shoulder while
>>> you're writing the email? I mean "Olin" in a generic sense... ;)
>>>
>>
>> I feel ya man...
>>
>>
> I am more concerned about the people who have unanswered questions that
> still refrain from posting in order to prevent an altercation. People
> are scared of posting to piclist, even those who have done adequate
> preparation with real questions....

Oh come on Rolf, we're reasonably nice here.

Tell me who these cowards are, so we can publicly shame them into posting!
>:-|

Vitaliy

2009\02\19@173539 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Vitaliy wrote:

> I often find myself in the same situation. :-)  It happens in real
> life too: I would walk over to someone to explain the problem and ask
> a question, but by the time I'm done explaining the problem, I know
> the answer. Another engineer used to do the same thing to me, and
> finally I suggested that he should make a life-sized cardboard cutout
> of me, since he would get roughly the same amount of feedback.

Just to bring back a reminiscence of another thread: IMO this is one of
the benefits of (good! of course :) documentation -- and of writing it.
While writing it, I find myself often challenged to describe something
in a degree of detail that casually thinking (or talking) about it
didn't require -- and this often answers a question, or brings up one.
It can be a good filter to separate what's known from the rest -- if
properly used for this purpose.

The advantage of writing it up, as compared to talking to a life-sized
cardboard cutout of Vitaliy is that once it's written, it's available
for others, too, and can be posted on a wiki maybe.

Gerhard

2009\02\19@202324 by Dave Lagzdin

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....
" as compared to talking to a life-sized
cardboard cutout of Vitaliy ..."
....

So, I'm thinkin' (marketing hat on) .. its probably the cutout of Olin
that would sell,
maybe with a bullseye....
(grin)

2009\02\20@050918 by Alan B. Pearce

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>So, I'm thinkin' (marketing hat on) .. its probably
>the cutout of Olin that would sell,
>maybe with a bullseye....

OK, so whose face would you put on the blow up punch bag, that was supposed
to be such a great office accessory for letting off steam a good few years
ago ... ;)))

2009\02\20@075601 by Rolf

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Alan B. Pearce wrote:
>> So, I'm thinkin' (marketing hat on) .. its probably
>> the cutout of Olin that would sell,
>> maybe with a bullseye....
>>    
>
> OK, so whose face would you put on the blow up punch bag, that was supposed
> to be such a great office accessory for letting off steam a good few years
> ago ... ;)))
>
>  
That's easy, let me check, who was the last person to join piclist ....

... ahhh, there's some poor sucker ready to become the beat-bag of the
bunch. Anyways, he should have a tougher skin, so we can help him get one...

Rolf

2009\02\20@093549 by Forrest W Christian

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Dave Lagzdin wrote:
> So, I'm thinkin' (marketing hat on) .. its probably the cutout of Olin
> that would sell, maybe with a bullseye....
Back when I was on the yearbook staff in college, you could always tell
who had really pissed someone off by whichever B&W 10x12 was hung on the
corkboard the staff liked to use for the dartboard....  Fortunately I
never ended up with my face on the wall (that I can remember), although
It was always interesting when one of the yearbook staff had their
picture on the wall....

-forrest

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