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2007\09\03@072728 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Personally I would fight tooth and nail to keep it against the alternative
>of having adverts.  When I'm in the USA I get utterly frustrated when I'm
>trying to follow a programme and it gets interrupted by adverts to the
>point
>that you just lose track of the plot.  And it's such a waste of time!
...
>We do have commercial channels with adverts, of course, but they are much
>less intrusive than in the USA.  At their most dense they only have a
>break every 15 minutes, none of the "initial teaser, then an ad-break,
>then the opening credits" thing,

I wouldn't go as far as that Howard. You obviously do not watch Channel 5
much. There the American programs they screen tend to have the program lead
in, titles, advert break, 5-10 minutes of program, next advert break ...

I have to admit that using a PVR is good value here. I have the skip forward
set to 30 seconds, so the titles typically require 1 push, and then if there
is an advert break immediately after the title another 7 or 8 pushes to skip
them works nicely.

2007\09\03@112243 by Herbert Graf

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On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 12:27 +0100, Alan B. Pearce wrote:
> I have to admit that using a PVR is good value here. I have the skip forward
> set to 30 seconds, so the titles typically require 1 push, and then if there
> is an advert break immediately after the title another 7 or 8 pushes to skip
> them works nicely.

Agreed. Once one goes PVR they don't go back. I find I pretty much never
watch TV live anymore, I always have things planned so that I can watch
something I've recorded. The only "bad" thing is when someone comes to
me and says "have you seen this commercial" I pretty much always say
no! :)

For me though, the "don't want to see commercials" thing extends past
TV, I've done the same for radio. I have Sat radio (Sirius) and record
what I want to listen to at night, so during the day I never have to
listen to live radio (Sat radio is commercial free for music, but Talk
and other things have a small number of commericals. But even for music,
recording large chunks lets me skip songs I don't like!).

Similarly for the internet I have very aggressive ad blocking that
pretty much eliminates all banner and flash ads.

Commercials are dead. The sooner the industry figures this out the
better. TTYL

2007\09\05@043456 by Howard Winter

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Alan,

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:27:18 +0100, Alan B. Pearce wrote:

I'd said:
>...
> >We do have commercial channels with adverts, of course, but they are much
> >less intrusive than in the USA.  At their most dense they only have a
> >break every 15 minutes, none of the "initial teaser, then an ad-break,
> >then the opening credits" thing,
>
> I wouldn't go as far as that Howard. You obviously do not watch Channel 5
> much. There the American programs they screen tend to have the program lead
> in, titles, advert break, 5-10 minutes of program, next advert break ...

Actually I do watch all the CSIs and NCIS, and certainly tonight's CSI Miami and New York didn't have this - they have an opening scene, then the
titles, then back into the story, with 3 advert breaks later on - I made a note of the times in Miami, and they were at 8, 24 and 44 minutes from the
start (then another in between programmes).

> I have to admit that using a PVR is good value here. I have the skip forward
> set to 30 seconds, so the titles typically require 1 push, and then if there
> is an advert break immediately after the title another 7 or 8 pushes to skip
> them works nicely.

Oh yes, I do this too!  I find the 30 second skip is one of those features that you don't realise is so useful until you've used it, then you don't want to
be without it.  

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2007\09\05@053542 by Alan B. Pearce

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>> I wouldn't go as far as that Howard. You obviously do not watch Channel 5
>> much. There the American programs they screen tend to have the program
>> lead
>> in, titles, advert break, 5-10 minutes of program, next advert break ...
>
>Actually I do watch all the CSIs and NCIS, and certainly tonight's CSI
>Miami
>and New York didn't have this - they have an opening scene, then the
>titles,
>then back into the story, with 3 advert breaks later on - I made a note of
>the times in Miami, and they were at 8, 24 and 44 minutes from the start
>(then another in between programmes).

They do vary when it happens. They do not always do it the way I suggested.
It certainly happened when they were showing NYPD Blue. I don't recall
seeing it done that way lately, though as you note.

I see we have similar tastes ... ;))

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