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2007\09\07@023909 by Luis.Moreira

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Hi all,
I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
is starting to create problems.
Is there any way or some small application that will save the emails
exactly as you would access them in outlook, and then have a window
where you can manipulate the emails as if you were doing it in outlook?
Best regards
               Luis  



2007\09\07@025612 by Jake Anderson

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Luis Moreira wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
> feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
> is starting to create problems.
> Is there any way or some small application that will save the emails
> exactly as you would access them in outlook, and then have a window
> where you can manipulate the emails as if you were doing it in outlook?
> Best regards
>                Luis  
>
>
>
>  
Thunderbird?

2007\09\07@040332 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/7/07, Luis Moreira <spam_OUTLuis.MoreiraTakeThisOuTspamjet.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
> feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
> is starting to create problems.

The easier solution is to complain to your IT department. I found it
ridiculous to limit the mail box in these days when storage is cheap!

And I think Outlook's archive feature is way better compared to
Lotus Notes I am using now.

And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
client usable is Outlook. You just save the archive in a
personal folder and you can access the personal folder
like the emails on the server. The only problem is portability.
Just copy the personal folder (.pst file) in a thumb drive
and that is all.

Xiaofan

2007\09\07@040523 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/7/07, Jake Anderson <.....jakeKILLspamspam@spam@vapourforge.com> wrote:
> Luis Moreira wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
> > feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
> > is starting to create problems.
> >
> Thunderbird?
>

I believe the OP is using Exchange at work and Thunderbird is not
a compatible client. And I do not think Thunderbird is any better
than Outlook. For Corporate email, Outlook is quite good. Maybe
this is because I am using Lotus Notes now...

Regards,
Xiaofan

2007\09\07@051515 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:03 AM, Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> client usable is Outlook.

I think even with exchange there should be an option to set
up IMAP access to the mailbox.  Once that's done, you have
a LOT of choices that will suck down your email via IMAP.

OTOH, you may be better off having Outlook download the
mail to a separate mailbox, and using some 3rd part utility
to export that mailbox to a more desirable format.

BillW

2007\09\07@072425 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/7/07, William Chops Westfield <westfwspamKILLspammac.com> wrote:
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> On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:03 AM, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
>
> > And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> > client usable is Outlook.
>
> I think even with exchange there should be an option to set
> up IMAP access to the mailbox.  Once that's done, you have
> a LOT of choices that will suck down your email via IMAP.

The problem is that the IT department may not want to do
that. No Pop, no IMAP typically as per my previous experiences
in one university and one company. Both offered Outlook
web access which is ok but not very good.

> OTOH, you may be better off having Outlook download the
> mail to a separate mailbox, and using some 3rd part utility
> to export that mailbox to a more desirable format.

Personally I think pst file is pretty good. I still have some
pst files 7 years old. But it might be good to convert
them to some other format just in case.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2007\09\07@085506 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On 07/09/2007, Xiaofan Chen <.....xiaofancKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

>For Corporate email, Outlook is quite good.

*boggle*


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2007\09\07@112100 by Herbert Graf

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On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 16:05 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> On 9/7/07, Jake Anderson <EraseMEjakespam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTvapourforge.com> wrote:
> > Luis Moreira wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
> > > feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
> > > is starting to create problems.
> > >
> > Thunderbird?
> >
>
> I believe the OP is using Exchange at work and Thunderbird is not
> a compatible client. And I do not think Thunderbird is any better
> than Outlook. For Corporate email, Outlook is quite good. Maybe
> this is because I am using Lotus Notes now...

It must be, Outlook is horrible. It's slow, it's obtrusive, it's huge,
it just sucks (however, note that some of these issues may be more to do
with Exchange sucking then Outlook, that said, if Outlook can't make
Exchange usable then Outlook is part of the problem). Pretty much ANY
other email client is better then Outlook IMHO.

With regard to the op, I'm not sure what you don't like about the
archiving feature of outlook? Tell it to archive to a file, and then
open that file in outlook. Outlook will create a new "branch" that
points to that file and you can open/read/search the emails in the
archive as if it was just another folder. I can't really think of a
better way to do it?

TTYL

2007\09\07@112323 by Herbert Graf

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On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 16:03 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> client usable is Outlook. You just save the archive in a

Not true. Google "evolution exchange connector". It uses OWA to access
to Exchange box through Evolution. Works quite well. TTYL

2007\09\07@122748 by Randy Glenn

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Be careful with archiving to folders. I've hit the 16,384 item per
folder limit in Outlook before, and lost emails as a result (filter
gave up when the target folder was full). Apparently upgrading to
large tables gives you a 65,536 item limit.

(I'm now using a personal IMAP server that automatically fetches my
email from about 6 different accounts into one mailbox, whose only
limit is the filesystem itself... but I'm also not Workin' For The Man
at the moment)

-Randy

On 9/7/07, Herbert Graf <mailinglist3spamspam_OUTfarcite.net> wrote:
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2007\09\07@131543 by Tony Smith

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> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 16:03 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> client usable
> > is Outlook. You just save the archive in a
>
> Not true. Google "evolution exchange connector". It uses OWA
> to access to Exchange box through Evolution. Works quite well. TTYL
>


Last time I looked, it doesn't do the Calendar stuff.  That just highlights
the difference between nerds & suits, who wants to have a meeting? (no
donuts).

Tony

2007\09\07@133058 by Nate Duehr

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Luis Moreira wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a limited size mail box at work and I do not like the archiving
> feature of outlook, but my mail box is always getting over the size and
> is starting to create problems.
> Is there any way or some small application that will save the emails
> exactly as you would access them in outlook, and then have a window
> where you can manipulate the emails as if you were doing it in outlook?
> Best regards
>                Luis  

If you're stuck with Outlook, why not just use a .pst file?

File->New->Outlook Data File.

Copy stuff off the server to local hard drive file, via usual interface...

Nate

2007\09\07@133425 by Nate Duehr

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> The easier solution is to complain to your IT department. I found it
> ridiculous to limit the mail box in these days when storage is cheap!

The problem for many IT departments in providing "online" mail storage
space is that they're not just using "simple" storage... they're using
servers that have RAID setups, and have to upgrade large numbers of
physical disks at the same time.  Expensive.

Nate

2007\09\07@144922 by Herbert Graf

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On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 03:14 +1000, Tony Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 16:03 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > > And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> > client usable
> > > is Outlook. You just save the archive in a
> >
> > Not true. Google "evolution exchange connector". It uses OWA
> > to access to Exchange box through Evolution. Works quite well. TTYL
> >
>
>
> Last time I looked, it doesn't do the Calendar stuff.  That just highlights
> the difference between nerds & suits, who wants to have a meeting? (no
> donuts).

Hmm, interesting, I don't remember when I last used it whether it
supported Calender. I have to believe it did, otherwise it wouldn't have
been that useful to me, but perhaps not. Anyone currently using it?

TTYL

2007\09\07@172859 by Charles Rogers

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Luis:
I use Win XP and Outlook Express,  In the left column you will find
"Local Folders" at the top of the column, click there and then try
File/ New/ Folders and at the cursor type in the name you would
like to use to store your old e-mail.   I have several that I use for
example:  EE, OT, PIC, Jokes, Personal.  You can use your mouse
to drag the respective e-mails to which ever folder you choose.

Try it you may like it.
CR



> Is there any way or some small application that will save the emails
> exactly as you would access them in outlook, and then have a window
> where you can manipulate the emails as if you were doing it in outlook

2007\09\07@202544 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/8/07, Herbert Graf <KILLspammailinglist3KILLspamspamfarcite.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 03:14 +1000, Tony Smith wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 16:03 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > > > And I believe your company is using Exchange so the only
> > > client usable
> > > > is Outlook. You just save the archive in a
> > >
> > > Not true. Google "evolution exchange connector". It uses OWA
> > > to access to Exchange box through Evolution. Works quite well. TTYL
> > >
> >
> >
> > Last time I looked, it doesn't do the Calendar stuff.  That just highlights
> > the difference between nerds & suits, who wants to have a meeting? (no
> > donuts).
>
> Hmm, interesting, I don't remember when I last used it whether it
> supported Calender. I have to believe it did, otherwise it wouldn't have
> been that useful to me, but perhaps not. Anyone currently using it?
>

Evolution also does not support old Exchange 5.5 installation.
I never liked evolution anyway under Linux.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2007\09\07@202730 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/7/07, Rikard Bosnjakovic <RemoveMErikard.bosnjakovicTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/09/2007, Xiaofan Chen <spamBeGonexiaofancspamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >For Corporate email, Outlook is quite good.
>
> *boggle*
>

Because I am comparing it with Lotus Notes. Most of the
Windows centric company use either Exchange or Lotus
Notes. When comparing the two, I will say Microsoft is
less evil than IBM,

Regards,
Xiaofan

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