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'[OT] Shipping cost from UK to Sweden'
2007\08\06@152739 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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Are there any UK-subscribers on this list?

I just bought an item on Ebay (UK) which weighs 6kg. The seller
charged me £25 for airmail P&P, which I found reasonable. Now, 5 days
after, he claims that the shipping cost is £65 and wants another £40
from me.

Can anyone from UK verify if this price is reality or if I should suspect fraud?


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2007\08\06@154230 by Shawn Tan

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On Monday 06 August 2007 20:27:38 Rikard Bosnjakovic wrote:
> Can anyone from UK verify if this price is reality or if I should suspect
> fraud?

You can look it up yourself, using RoyalMail.
http://www.royalmail.com

Cheers.

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Shawn Tan

Aeste Works (M) Sdn Bhd - Engineering Elegance
http://www.aeste.net

2007\08\06@160820 by alan smith

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IMHO...his screwup.  He should have figured out before he sent it, what it would cost.  I've been there before, where I misjudged shipping and came out paying more, but I payed it anyway.  Did you already get the product? If so, give a neutral feedback.  If he disputes it and gives YOU a bad feedback score because of his mistake, dispute it as well.  

Rikard Bosnjakovic <spam_OUTrikard.bosnjakovicTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:  Are there any UK-subscribers on this list?

I just bought an item on Ebay (UK) which weighs 6kg. The seller
charged me £25 for airmail P&P, which I found reasonable. Now, 5 days
after, he claims that the shipping cost is £65 and wants another £40
from me.

Can anyone from UK verify if this price is reality or if I should suspect fraud?


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2007\08\06@162124 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On 06/08/07, alan smith <.....micro_eng2KILLspamspam@spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> IMHO...his screwup.  He should have figured out before he sent it, what it would cost.  I've been there before, where I misjudged shipping and came out paying more, but I payed it anyway.  Did you already get the product? If so, give a neutral feedback.  If he disputes it and gives YOU a bad feedback score because of his mistake, dispute it as well.

He hasn't shipped it. Last monday he said "I'm shipping on wednesday".
On wednesday he said "I'm shipping on friday, due to work commitment".
And today I receive this mail where he tells me that he went to the
post office and that the shipping would cost £65 instead of £25.

So I'm a sitting duck who's paid 75% of this huge amount, and the
seller is completely ignorant about giving me information about
things.


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2007\08\06@175905 by Mike Harrison

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:27:38 +0200, you wrote:

>Are there any UK-subscribers on this list?
>
>I just bought an item on Ebay (UK) which weighs 6kg. The seller
>charged me £25 for airmail P&P, which I found reasonable. Now, 5 days
>after, he claims that the shipping cost is £65 and wants another £40
>from me.
>
>Can anyone from UK verify if this price is reality or if I should suspect fraud?
>
>
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>- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

Royal Mail can be difficult/expensive for international above certain weights - standard airmail
gets expensive over 2kg, and their int'l parcel services are only available at larger offices,

Point him towards http://www.parcel2go.com - £20 for 10Kg to Europe, and they will pick up.

2007\08\07@061038 by Howard Winter

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Rikard,

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:27:38 +0200, Rikard Bosnjakovic wrote:

> Are there any UK-subscribers on this list?

Yes, quite a lot!  :-)

> I just bought an item on Ebay (UK) which weighs 6kg. The seller
> charged me £25 for airmail P&P, which I found reasonable. Now, 5 days
> after, he claims that the shipping cost is £65 and wants another £40
> from me.

The problem is there is a 2kg limit for anything sent abroad by Royal Mail (including airmail) - see
http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/content1?catId=400036&mediaId=53800712  

At 2kg to Sweden (or anywhere in Europe) it would cost about £11, but they just don't go above that limit, so he must be using some other shipper
but I have no idea which one - ask him.

Sending heavy things can be really expensive - I had to return a faulty solar charger/inverter to China a while ago, and the cheapest I could find was
£130 for 22kg (DHL wanted £200).  Half this cost for a third of the weight going a tenth of the distance does seem overpriced, but international
shipping is a strange business.

> Can anyone from UK verify if this price is reality or if I should suspect fraud?

I don't think it's fraud, I think he's an idiot for not confirming the shipping cost before the auction ended - I assume you asked, or he already had the
information on the auction item?  Ask him which shipping service he's using, so you can check online that he's got the price right.  He certainly
shouldn't be charging more than the bare shipping cost IMHO, as he's made the mistake.

If he gave you the price before the auction ended, you have a good case for saying that it's his own fault for not researching better, so he should
bare the extra cost, but if it's a genuine error you may want to negotiate a compromise, perhaps paying half of the extra.  You may feel that makes
the item too expensive and you wouldn't have bid if you'd known, so you have a case for pulling out of the deal - but get eBay involved so you don't
end up being marked as a non-payer.

Best of luck!


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2007\08\07@080906 by Russell McMahon

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> Sending heavy things can be really expensive - I had to return a
> faulty solar charger/inverter to China a while ago, and the cheapest
> I could find was
£130 for 22kg (DHL wanted £200).  Half this cost for a third of the
weight going a tenth of the distance does seem overpriced, but
international
shipping is a strange business.
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DHL's Jumbo boxes are often FAR cheaper per kg than their per kg
rates. I think they are rated at 10 and 20 kg so a 22 kg item may need
some bits removing :-)

Sending equipment NZ -> Taiwan I found that a 10 kg limit Jumbo Junior
box (or whatever its called) was only slightly above their 1 kg
charge.

FWIW, of all the available freighters, I found that DHL had the best
idea of customer service for an occasional customer and also quoted
the shortest estimated delivery times.  They generally managed to
deliver in less time than they estimated, even when sending via
sometimes puzzling routes.



               Russell



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