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'[OT] Shaving !!!'
2009\02\17@215154 by me

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Ok now this may seem really [OT] but being a typical
nerdy/geek/engineer/hobbyist I guess - I have just spent the last 2 decades
under varying levels of beard. From George Michael Stubble to full blown
hairy man and at close to 40yrs old  i decided to have a shave.

Much to the shock of friends and family who all agree that i look a decade
younger than most of them (I would say that it was lack of UV hitting my
skin and therefore not ageing me as it did them, However I digress)

The reason for this tome is essentially that i notice that shaving
technology has come a long way from the late 80's early 90's when i last
bothered  with anything closer than a beard trimmer. (The reason I started a
beard was to make me look older and because my skin just hated being shaved
(rash - cuts - burn etc).)
The blades on the heads are now just about countable on one hand and the
shave gel (king of shaves) has excellent lubrication qualities. My chin hair
is astonishingly strong and I seem to only get 2 shaves out of a blade
before feels noticable dull and therefore more prone to rash cuts burns
etc.once again.

So....

Is this a normal amount of shaves from a blade, am i hoping for too much
longevity considering the cost of these blades?
Is there a better way to get more from the blades.
Am i hoping for too smooth ?

Finally would a ultrasonic cleaner keep the blades better because they dull
from bacteria or simply cutting action ?
(I dont have an ultrasonic cleaner, so i can't test this hypothosis)
Or, do i need to put the shaving head under a wire pyramid (any believers
out there - I hope not considering where i am posting this)

Your thoughts on this would be great.

Chris

2009\02\17@223533 by Jake Anderson

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me wrote:
> So....
>
> Is this a normal amount of shaves from a blade, am i hoping for too much
> longevity considering the cost of these blades?
> Is there a better way to get more from the blades.
> Am i hoping for too smooth ?
>
> Finally would a ultrasonic cleaner keep the blades better because they dull
> from bacteria or simply cutting action ?
> (I dont have an ultrasonic cleaner, so i can't test this hypothosis)
> Or, do i need to put the shaving head under a wire pyramid (any believers
> out there - I hope not considering where i am posting this)
>
> Your thoughts on this would be great.
>
> Chris
>
>  

I used to shave every day, I would typically get several months out of a
blade with one of the 2 blade ones.
I now shave once every few weeks, (about due now actually)
I think in the past 10 or so years I have gone through about 10 or 15
blades, could be 25.

But I don't really notice them getting blunt. Sometimes I'll change one
just for the fun of it mainly and I'll be surprised at the difference, I
think the main thing is probably technique, find something that works
for you, don't use too much pressure, As i recall its not the hair that
dulls the blade but your skin.


2009\02\17@225015 by Marcel Duchamp

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Jake Anderson wrote:
>
> I used to shave every day, I would typically get several months out of a
> blade with one of the 2 blade ones.
> I now shave once every few weeks, (about due now actually)
> I think in the past 10 or so years I have gone through about 10 or 15
> blades, could be 25.
>
> But I don't really notice them getting blunt. Sometimes I'll change one
> just for the fun of it mainly and I'll be surprised at the difference, I
> think the main thing is probably technique, find something that works
> for you, don't use too much pressure, As i recall its not the hair that
> dulls the blade but your skin.
>
>

I'm in between you and Jake.  I change my blade about once a month.
What I notice is that it takes more passes with the razor to shave the
beard satisfactorily.  And a new blade is great.  But I shave in the
shower and never think about it except in the shower.  So as soon as I
get out, I forget about it until the next day.  A friend of mine only
uses his two times before replacing it.

2009\02\17@231653 by cdb

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I wonder if this satisfies the TECH heading? Anyhow, I've found safety
blades (Wilkinson Sword pack of 10 blades very expensive and hard to
get in Queensland) don't stay sharp very long, perhaps two or three
shaves, they also due to the humidity rust very easily.

The new fangled triple thingy blades I can get to last about a month,
and disposables about a week assuming I have no more than a 3 day
growth.

As an aside, am I the only one who always manages to cut himself if I
use an electric razor?

Colin
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2009\02\18@000142 by Richard Prosser

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I get a month or of daily shaving using one of those shavers with a
vibrating motor in it. It seems to me that once the blade gets too
dull to cut, it saws its way through!

(Had to be a bit careful how I described it - could easily give the
wrong impression)

RP

2009/2/18 cdb <.....colinKILLspamspam@spam@btech-online.co.uk>:
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2009\02\18@005411 by Sean Breheny

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I used to use disposables (or the reusable handle-type with changeable
blades) for weeks at a time. Did this from when I started shaving up
until about 26 years old. However, I continued to have a lot of acne
under my chin and on the sides of my face. I eventually discovered
that the razors were making this much worse because they were
spreading the bacteria around my face (i.e., when one pimple would get
nicked, the bacteria from it would get spread all over my face over
the next several times that blade was used).

So, I ended up buying fairly cheap disposables and using a new one
every time I shave. That reduced the acne by about a factor of 3. On
the advice of a dermatologist, I also started mixing some Benzoyl
Peroxide gel in with the shaving cream. That has almost totally
cleared it up (this stuff makes your skin exfoliate much more quickly
so the bacteria do not have a chance to gain a foothold before that
piece of skin is gone). The downside of Benzoyl Peroxide is that it
somewhat increases risk of skin cancer (presumably by making the skin
regenerate much more often). One of my things to do is to research how
much additional risk there is. The acne has been annoying enough,
though, that I've kept using it.

I have tried an electric razor but I found that some of the hairs of
my beard were too thick to fit through the blade screen and would
remain uncut, which was very annoying :) It also didn't give a very
close shave (probably if I had bought an expensive one it would have
been better).

If I really want to look clean shaven, my beard grows so fast that I'd
have to shave twice per day. I normally shave every other day unless I
am going to some kind of social event, and then I will make sure to
shave on that day, perhaps even right before the event. My work
environment is very tolerant of stubble ;)

I once tried growing out my beard for about 1 month. I grew a rather
full one in that time - very thick, dark, and coarse. My girlfriend at
the time didn't like it, and I still found it annoying after 1 month
(I had been advised to try it at least that long to give my skin a
chance to get used to it), so I shaved it and have never looked back.

Sean


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2009\02\18@010802 by Jake Anderson

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If its just bacteria then perhaps a disinfectant would do? applied after
shaving perhaps?

If I shave too close I get ingrown hairs and acne type symptoms.

Sean Breheny wrote:
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2009\02\18@020215 by Vitaliy

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me wrote:
> The reason for this tome is essentially that i notice that shaving
> technology has come a long way from the late 80's early 90's when i last
> bothered  with anything closer than a beard trimmer. (The reason I started
> a
> beard was to make me look older and because my skin just hated being
> shaved
> (rash - cuts - burn etc).)
> The blades on the heads are now just about countable on one hand and the
> shave gel (king of shaves) has excellent lubrication qualities. My chin
> hair
> is astonishingly strong and I seem to only get 2 shaves out of a blade
> before feels noticable dull and therefore more prone to rash cuts burns
> etc.once again.
>
> So....
>
> Is this a normal amount of shaves from a blade, am i hoping for too much
> longevity considering the cost of these blades?

I get about 5-6 uses out of a blade until it starts pulling the hairs and I
feel it's time to throw it away.


> Is there a better way to get more from the blades.
> Am i hoping for too smooth ?


I've been using Gillette razors ever since I started shaving, and they
spoiled me rotten. I had no idea how good they were, until once I forgot to
pack my razor, and the hotel host gave me a disposable one.

Not only could I not get a close shave, I got a terrible razor burn all over
my face (in addition to cuts).

I know a guy who hates to shave because it really irritates his skin. After
that one incident, I realized that he probably uses disposable razors, and
never tried Gillette (because they're so much more expensive).

I like the ones with three blades; more blades don't give me a closer shave,
and I feel like the bigger head gives me less control. Vibrating razors
don't appeal to me, either (I don't even know what the point of it is). I'm
sure other people gave different opinions, it is largely a matter of
preference and how compatible a razor is, with you skin and face.

If you think about it, it's an amazing engineering feat to manufacture
something in the hundreds of millions of units, to such precise
specifications, and be able to sell it for only a few dollars.


> Finally would a ultrasonic cleaner keep the blades better because they
> dull
> from bacteria or simply cutting action ?
> (I dont have an ultrasonic cleaner, so i can't test this hypothosis)
> Or, do i need to put the shaving head under a wire pyramid (any believers
> out there - I hope not considering where i am posting this)

No idea, I don't use neither an ultrasonic cleaner, nor a wire pyramid.

Vitaliy

2009\02\18@072116 by M. Adam Davis

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:51 PM, me <spamBeGonechrisspamBeGonespamgavin-egan.com> wrote:
> Is this a normal amount of shaves from a blade, am i hoping for too much
> longevity considering the cost of these blades?

Before I started doing electric I was using a two or three blade
gillette, and I could go for about a week before I noticed the razor
dragging too much.  Cheap razors only last a day or two.  If you're
going to do this for a long time, try out several brands and models to
get an idea of what the differences are.

> Is there a better way to get more from the blades.

Make sure you're using a good shaving cream, and shaving a beard
that's already been steamed - most people do it in the shower or
immediately after.  If you shave without getting it well wetted with
hot water it's going to go very poorly, and dull the blade very
quickly.

Rinse the blade while shaving very frequently - one stroke an inch or
three long, then rinse.  Tapping will sometimes clear hair out of the
razor that the water didn't grab.

Beyond that, no.  When a blade is dull it's dull.  It gets dull
through shaving, and if you're already doing all the appropriate
shaving techniques then you can't slow the process further.

> Am i hoping for too smooth ?

There's a certain technique.  I always shaved against the grain and
got close enough.  I know some people recommend once with the grain,
and once against.  There are tips, tricks, and instructions on various
places online.

> Finally would a ultrasonic cleaner keep the blades better because they dull
> from bacteria or simply cutting action ?

I doubt it.  The bacteria on your face are not so good at eating
through metal, especially when there's no real food there.  Make sure
the razor has a good place to dry so it doesn't remain damp for more
than an hour or two after use.  Shake the water out when done.

> (I dont have an ultrasonic cleaner, so i can't test this hypothosis)
> Or, do i need to put the shaving head under a wire pyramid (any believers
> out there - I hope not considering where i am posting this)

Only if the wire pyramid automatically changes the blades for you daily.

> Your thoughts on this would be great.

I use an electric shaver - something similar to this Norelco 3 head style:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/us/norelco/cc/_productid_7810XL_18_US_NORELCO/Electric-razor+7810XL

It was $75 or so, and I haven't changed the blades in two years.  They
need changing, no doubt, but they still cut through it all and I don't
get cuts or nicks as I did with the other style of shaver or the
razors.

No matter what you choose, though, realize that it takes 2 weeks or so
for your face to become used to a new style of shaving.  Every time
I've switched I would get razer burn for a week, and then I'd be fine
until I switched again.

-Adam

2009\02\18@083200 by Carl Denk

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I use the 2 blade Gillette. A year ago, I bought, a 1200 grit diamond
sharpening "stone" It is great for sharpening tools like wood chisels,
and have is used it to to polish the ends of glass fiber optic cable.
Haven't tried to sharpen razor, but might work, all you need is a little
honing or strapping like the barbers used to have on the sides of their
chairs for touching up their straight edge razor. Thought I saw the
other day on the TV, an informertial on a razor that came with a  DYI
sharpener. :)

M. Adam Davis wrote:
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2009\02\18@083940 by Mike Hord

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>
> Your thoughts on this would be great.
>

I use a 50 year old safety razor with Merkur Platinum DE blades, and
a badger hair brush to apply the shaving cream (which does NOT come
from a spray can).

It's taken me a couple of months to get used to it, but I shave daily
now where I used to shave only monthly or less (that is to say, the
areas around the fringes of my beard- I used to let it look scraggly
but I'm much more neatly trimmed now).  I get about 15 days out
of one of the blades before I have to replace it.  That's pushing it,
though.

It's a very refreshing and rejuvenating morning ritual.

Mike H.

2009\02\18@093405 by Bob Axtell

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I am 66 y.o. and I have a very thick beard.

I shave every day or every other day, but I got tired of paying so
much for poor blades, so I
switched back to double-sided blades, and I purchased a Merkur 1903
design razor, and my problems are solved..

But to get decent blades, I had to purchase them from Israel through
an Ebay seller. I now get three VERY good shaves at a cost of
approximately $0.25 USD. That's about 1/4 of what I WAS paying for a
poor shave before.

--Bob


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2009\02\18@103518 by Thomas Coyle

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Just a recommendation on lubricants: I'm an Irish-German whiteboy with
extremely sensitive skin; I could never shave more than once every three or
four days with a blade, since it would just irritate me horribly. Then, a
few jobs ago, an associate recommended using Neutrogena's Skin Clearing
Shave Cream - it doesn't lather at all, and you don't need very much; it's
almost like a lotion. It contains various anti-acne and anti-irritants, and
it works like a champ. Now I can shave daily with a blade if I want with no
difficulty (though I generally don't), and get a much closer shave. Also, my
blades seem to last a lot longer. I use Gillette Mach 3, and I change blades
maybe once every two months, shaving every other day or thereabouts.
Also, as concerns the whole multi-blade thing. Back in the mid-90s, I spent
a brief period of time working for a higher-end audio/video retailer in New
England, and went through an intensive 2-week sales training program. We
spent some time talking about planned obsolescence, and in the class they
used the multi-blade razors as an example, saying that Gillette had realized
that not only was there a marketing advantage (to the consumer, more =
better), and a practical advantage (it turns out that it actually does give
a closer shave) but also an obsolescence advantage, since unless the user is
diligent about washing and drying the blades, they tend to trap water and
corrode.

Since then, I've always cleaned and air-dried the blades, have never seen
corrosion, and my blades last a lot longer.

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2009\02\18@133447 by Minto Witteveen

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I have soon off-topic and waaaaaayyyy of-topic, but this one beats them all.



regards,

Minto Witteveen.

2009\02\18@140006 by Thomas Coyle

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Hey, shaving is important for nerds/dorks/geeks/engineers. It's bad enough
just doing this stuff as a hobby - if you look like the Unabomber too,
that's the final nail in the relationship coffin. :)

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2009\02\18@143812 by John Ferrell

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Shaving is as barbaric practice.
John Ferrell  W8CCW

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nothing." -- Edmund Burke
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2009\02\18@154127 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 14:34 +1100, Jake Anderson wrote:

> I used to shave every day, I would typically get several months out of a
> blade with one of the 2 blade ones.
> I now shave once every few weeks, (about due now actually)
> I think in the past 10 or so years I have gone through about 10 or 15
> blades, could be 25.

It's about the same for me. When I first switched to blades I had to
change them more often. I believe the reason was simply that my skin was
more sensitive since it had only been "exposed" to electric razors.

After a few weeks I found I could let a blade go for MUCH longer. My
hair is pretty tough, yet I can still go months before having to change
a blade. FWIW I use one of those new fangled 5 blade dealies, only
reason being they were on sale at costco... :)

TTYL

2009\02\18@165558 by gavin-egan.com

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Thanks for that about the cream , obsolescence and corrosion - I wondered
how best to get the Kak out of the middle of the blades well enough (hot
water - under a tap) hence the question about ultrasonic cleaners.

Chris



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2009\02\18@165740 by gavin-egan.com

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DYI Sharpener ??? Is that Do Yourself an Injury ?

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Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!

I use the 2 blade Gillette. A year ago, I bought, a 1200 grit diamond
sharpening "stone" It is great for sharpening tools like wood chisels,
and have is used it to to polish the ends of glass fiber optic cable.
Haven't tried to sharpen razor, but might work, all you need is a little
honing or strapping like the barbers used to have on the sides of their
chairs for touching up their straight edge razor. Thought I saw the
other day on the TV, an informertial on a razor that came with a  DYI
sharpener. :)

M. Adam Davis wrote:
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dull
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www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/us/norelco/cc/_productid_7810XL_
18_US_NORELCO/Electric-razor+7810XL
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2009\02\18@165753 by gavin-egan.com

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Point taken.... :-)

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Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!

Hey, shaving is important for nerds/dorks/geeks/engineers. It's bad enough
just doing this stuff as a hobby - if you look like the Unabomber too,
that's the final nail in the relationship coffin. :)

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2009\02\18@165753 by gavin-egan.com

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You mean one of those lethal looking things my parents used in the 70's
where the blade was simply flat and protruded 1mm out the edge of both sides
and the blades came in a flat plastic pack.



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2009\02\18@171058 by cdb

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:: I wondered
:: how best to get the Kak out of the middle of the blades

That's the best indicator that the blades are not as sharp as they
once were.

I use King of Shaves antibacterial gel - I think I saw it in Pak and
Save - not cheap though, about AU$7.00 but lasts me about 4 months.

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2009\02\18@190051 by Richard Prosser

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2009/2/19 gavin-egan.com <spamBeGonechrisspamKILLspamgavin-egan.com>:
>
> You mean one of those lethal looking things my parents used in the 70's
> where the blade was simply flat and protruded 1mm out the edge of both sides
> and the blades came in a flat plastic pack.
>

I can distinctly remember seeing my father shave with a "cut throat" -
basically a very, very sharp knife.

RP

2009\02\18@220458 by Thomas Coyle

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There's an unfortunate repercussion of cutthroats no longer being generally
available - the difficulty in finding double-sided razor blades. If I don't
use such a razor, why would I want those blades? They make an excellent
beam-stop for high-powered lasers. I have a 1-watt-ish argon, and a 150W CO2
laser, and by taking a hundred double-sided razors and binding them together
with machine screws, the thinness of the blades combined with the sharp
edges causes light to just stop dead by reflection between the blades. I'll
have to post a picture sometime - it's pretty spectacular if you haven't
seen it before; no matter how bright your light, the side of the beam-stop
just looks flat black. When I was making it, I had to turn to Ebay to buy my
blades, at extortionist rates.

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2009\02\18@221940 by gavin-egan.com

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A photo would be great

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Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!

There's an unfortunate repercussion of cutthroats no longer being generally
available - the difficulty in finding double-sided razor blades. If I don't
use such a razor, why would I want those blades? They make an excellent
beam-stop for high-powered lasers. I have a 1-watt-ish argon, and a 150W CO2
laser, and by taking a hundred double-sided razors and binding them together
with machine screws, the thinness of the blades combined with the sharp
edges causes light to just stop dead by reflection between the blades. I'll
have to post a picture sometime - it's pretty spectacular if you haven't
seen it before; no matter how bright your light, the side of the beam-stop
just looks flat black. When I was making it, I had to turn to Ebay to buy my
blades, at extortionist rates.

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2009\02\19@044356 by Justin Richards

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Colin,

I dont think you are alone.  The Aussie icon Norman Gungstun with the
trademark 3 or 4 small pieces of tissue stuck to his face to blot up the
blood where he had apparently cut himself shaving.

While interviewing one of the celebrities was asked "how did you cut
yourself", he responded "shaving", she suggested "you should use and
electric razor", to which he replied "I do".  She thought it was hilarious.

Cheers Justin

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2009\02\19@084040 by Mike Hord

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Thomas Coyle <RemoveMEzxcasdEraseMEspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
>
> There's an unfortunate repercussion of cutthroats no longer being generally
> available - the difficulty in finding double-sided razor blades. If I don't
> use such a razor, why would I want those blades? They make an excellent
> beam-stop for high-powered lasers. I have a 1-watt-ish argon, and a 150W CO2
> laser, and by taking a hundred double-sided razors and binding them together
> with machine screws, the thinness of the blades combined with the sharp
> edges causes light to just stop dead by reflection between the blades. I'll
> have to post a picture sometime - it's pretty spectacular if you haven't
> seen it before; no matter how bright your light, the side of the beam-stop
> just looks flat black. When I was making it, I had to turn to Ebay to buy my
> blades, at extortionist rates.

Interesting.  I can think of three stores within just a couple of miles of here
that I KNOW sell DE blades for safety razors, including a Walgreens drug.

Mike H.

2009\02\19@085659 by M. Adam Davis

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:07 PM, gavin-egan.com <@spam@chrisRemoveMEspamEraseMEgavin-egan.com> wrote:
>
> You mean one of those lethal looking things my parents used in the 70's
> where the blade was simply flat and protruded 1mm out the edge of both sides
> and the blades came in a flat plastic pack.

Some older medicine cabinets (that inset into the wall) provided a
little slot in the bottom just the size of the razer blade.

When you finished with one, you put it through the slot, and it would
end up inside the wall.

Remodeling old homes with such a feature required a little more care...

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chicago/look/look-old-school-bathroom-razor-disposal-048801

-Adam

2009\02\19@085715 by M. Adam Davis

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:07 PM, gavin-egan.com <EraseMEchrisspam@spam@gavin-egan.com> wrote:
>
> You mean one of those lethal looking things my parents used in the 70's
> where the blade was simply flat and protruded 1mm out the edge of both sides
> and the blades came in a flat plastic pack.

Some older medicine cabinets (that inset into the wall) provided a
little slot in the bottom just the size of the razer blade.

When you finished with one, you put it through the slot, and it would
end up inside the wall.

Remodeling old homes with such a feature required a little more care...

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chicago/look/look-old-school-bathroom-razor-disposal-048801

-Adam

2009\02\19@091011 by Richard Prosser

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Funny, I haven't seen these blades for years, then today I was in a
local market & a guy there had several boxes of the old style blue
steel, double sided, blades. Mind, I'm in Shenzhen at the moment so I
could probably buy anything I wanted.

If I knew where to look or how to ask for it.

RP

2009/2/19 Mike Hord <@spam@mike.hordspam_OUTspam.....gmail.com>:
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2009\02\19@091326 by Thomas Coyle

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Really? I had absolutely no luck - I checked WG, CVS, and Wal-Mart, and
everybody just looked at me funny when I asked for them (didn't see on
shelves). I'll ask again next time I'm in one of those and see if they can
do a special order of them, since the chain apparently does carry them.
Thanks!
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Mike Hord <mike.hordspamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:

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2009\02\19@091712 by Thomas Coyle

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My old house in Rhode Island is now about 140 years old, and I remember just
this thing as a kid, watching my grandfather shave with a cutthroat... "but
where does the blade go when you put it in there?" When I got old enough to
realize that it went nowhere, I decided that I was never going to remodel
that house myself.
Then again, after so many years of moisture in the walls, I honestly wonder
if I'd find anything other than iron oxide powder if I opened it up.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:56 AM, M. Adam Davis <.....stienman@spam@spamEraseMEgmail.com> wrote:

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2009\02\19@092222 by Tamas Rudnai

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Old double sided blades also good for many things including modelling and
even in electronics like cutting PCB traces. With the modern 3 or 5 blade
ones I just could not do that :-) However a good and sharp scalpel can
replace these old things.

Tamas



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2009\02\19@092402 by Bob Axtell

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Here in the USA, you can find double-sided blades at Sally's beauty
Supply, with stores all over the USA. The problem is that the blades
they sell there are of very poor quality, that's why I buy mine from
Israel.

--Bob

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Thomas Coyle <spamBeGonezxcasdKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
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2009\02\19@092642 by Rolf

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M. Adam Davis wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:07 PM, gavin-egan.com <RemoveMEchrisEraseMEspamKILLspamgavin-egan.com> wrote:
>  
>> You mean one of those lethal looking things my parents used in the 70's
>> where the blade was simply flat and protruded 1mm out the edge of both sides
>> and the blades came in a flat plastic pack.
>>    
>
> Some older medicine cabinets (that inset into the wall) provided a
> little slot in the bottom just the size of the razer blade.
>
> When you finished with one, you put it through the slot, and it would
> end up inside the wall.
>
> Remodeling old homes with such a feature required a little more care...
>
> http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chicago/look/look-old-school-bathroom-razor-disposal-048801
>
> -Adam
>  

Hi Adam.... just a point you may not be aware of.... I seem to typically
get double-mails from you. For example, I just got your mail twice.

May be worth looking in to. They both have the exact same message id
(the same mail was sent once, but delivered twice), and the difference
seems to be in the fact that it has just one 'received' header as the
mail left google:

Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.247])
       by mit.edu (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id 8673CD98806
       for <spamBeGonepiclistspam_OUTspamRemoveMEmit.edu>; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:56:57 -0500 (EST)


but, it was received twice at piclist mail servers, first:

Received: from mit.edu (M24-004-BARRACUDA-1.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.111])
       by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id
       n1JDuxpn009058
       for <.....piclistspamRemoveMEmit.edu>; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:56:59 -0500 (EST)


then 15 seconds later....

Received: from mit.edu (M24-004-BARRACUDA-1.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.111])
       by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id
       n1JDvFUP009232
       for <piclistspam@spam@mit.edu>; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:57:15 -0500 (EST)


Perhaps you are addressing the mail twice?

Not sure, but since we are off-topic, that's OK.

Rolf

2009\02\19@151827 by cdb

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:: Old double sided blades also good for many things including
:: modelling and
:: even in electronics like cutting PCB traces. With the modern 3 or
:: 5 blade
:: ones I just could not do that :-) However a good and sharp scalpel
:: can
:: replace these old things.

Well to bring this back to an engineering bent, I'm going to try shaving with a pair of sidecutters and a scalpel.

Perhaps a vibrating motor tuned to beard depth and solar powered all controlled by a pic - a pulsating infra-led or ultraviolet LED could be used for a massage and antibacterial function - the LED could also be used as a surface depth finder.

Will have to add that to my - constant temperature butter dish, and a toaster that will consistently toast bread in a manner satisfactory to me.

Colin
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2009\02\19@164203 by Minto Witteveen

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Coyle" <RemoveMEzxcasdKILLspamspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com>
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <spamBeGonepiclistspam@spam@mit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 20:00
Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!
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Ok ok I surrender..

I do NOT look like the Unabomber J..

I shave every (working) day. On sat/sun I refuse to shave unless there is a
_very_ good reason.

I use Gilette mach 3, and they last more than a month, but _only_ if I shave
after showering. Whetting/warming the hairs before shaving has a huge impact
on longevity of the blades - days versus weeks! I rinse out the blades
afterwards, but I do not take extra care to dry them.



I'm still thinking about the relationship between PIC's and shaving. I'm
lost.



Regards,

Minto Witteveen.

2009\02\19@172235 by pic

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Well the link was tenuous at best but I was primarily wondering (and this
seemed to elude most) if an ultrasonic cleaner would make the blades last
longer as they would be clear of debris and therefore not rot/corrode
etc.... at least I think that's what I meant.



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2009\02\19@175545 by Thomas Coyle

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If they were dried completely, I think it sounds logical that this would
work. Given that you're scraping off infinitesimal bits of dead skin and
hair that you might not even be able to see with the naked eye and that
might not rinse off in a simple water flow (how hard is it just to get the
"normal" visible gunk out? Since I don't shave every single day, my beard
hair tends to be longer and clogs up the blades pretty quickly), and that
that "gunk" will probably trap water against the blades and/or contain
remnants of your shave lotion/cream with who-knows-what in it that'll impact
the blades, getting them pristinely clean with ultrasonics presumably would
let them last longer.
I'm happy to test it empirically - as I said, given my current rate of
shaving, I switch blades every other month or so. I'll simply start keeping
track, and test it both ways. I have a professional (dental surplus)
ultrasonic cleaner in the bathroom that I use for jewelry.

I'll start with my next blade change, and should have results for you in
about 4 months. ;)

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM, picspamspamgavin-egan.com <spam_OUTchrisspam_OUTspamspam_OUTgavin-egan.com>wrote:

> Well the link was tenuous at best but I was primarily wondering (and this
> seemed to elude most) if an ultrasonic cleaner would make the blades last
> longer as they would be clear of debris and therefore not rot/corrode
> etc.... at least I think that's what I meant.
>
>
>
> {Original Message removed}

2009\02\19@180453 by Minto Witteveen

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Ha!
Finally some scientific testing. Please keep us posted.
I need an excuse to buy a ultrasonic cleaner.....


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Coyle" <zxcasdspam_OUTspamgmail.com>
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <RemoveMEpiclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 23:55
Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!


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>> {Original Message removed}

2009\02\19@184845 by pic

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I too have wanted a reason to buy one... but couldn't find one til now (is
it cheaper to make one or buy one ?)

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2009\02\19@193953 by Thomas Coyle

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If you're in the US:

www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3305
Harbor Freight makes dirt-cheap, poorly-constructed items that don't last
long (cheap chinese imports), but if you're using something for hobby
purposes, they can be a really good deal. What I tell people is that HF
stuff lasts 1/2 as long as a "real" brand, and costs 1/3 as much.

I'm lucky enough to live 15 miles away from one. I have two of these
cleaners, and they do work on jewelry. My professional dental one I got as a
cast-off from a dentist buddy.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, spam_OUTpicspamKILLspamgavin-egan.com <RemoveMEchrisRemoveMEspamEraseMEgavin-egan.com>wrote:

> I too have wanted a reason to buy one... but couldn't find one til now (is
> it cheaper to make one or buy one ?)
>
> {Original Message removed}

2009\02\19@195447 by pic

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Thanks for that but in NZ so shipping might be a tad expensive.



-----Original Message-----
From: KILLspampiclist-bouncesspamspamBeGonemit.edu [piclist-bouncesspamspammit.edu] On Behalf Of
Thomas Coyle
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:39 PM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
Subject: Re: [OT] Shaving !!!

If you're in the US:

www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3305
Harbor Freight makes dirt-cheap, poorly-constructed items that don't last
long (cheap chinese imports), but if you're using something for hobby
purposes, they can be a really good deal. What I tell people is that HF
stuff lasts 1/2 as long as a "real" brand, and costs 1/3 as much.

I'm lucky enough to live 15 miles away from one. I have two of these
cleaners, and they do work on jewelry. My professional dental one I got as a
cast-off from a dentist buddy.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, RemoveMEpicspamBeGonespamRemoveMEgavin-egan.com
<KILLspamchrisspamBeGonespamgavin-egan.com>wrote:

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beard
> > hair tends to be longer and clogs up the blades pretty quickly), and
that
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too,
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I'm
> >> lost.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Minto Witteveen.
> >>
> >> --

2009\02\19@202418 by John Ferrell

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As I recall when I quit shaving (about 1972) I was using Wilkinson Sword
stainless blades.

John Ferrell  W8CCW

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Edmund Burke
http://DixieNC.US


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2009\02\19@203513 by Tony Smith

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> If you're in the US:
>
> www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3305
> Harbor Freight makes dirt-cheap, poorly-constructed items that don't last
> long (cheap chinese imports), but if you're using something for hobby
> purposes, they can be a really good deal. What I tell people is that HF
> stuff lasts 1/2 as long as a "real" brand, and costs 1/3 as much.
>
> I'm lucky enough to live 15 miles away from one. I have two of these
> cleaners, and they do work on jewelry. My professional dental one I got as
a
> cast-off from a dentist buddy.


The difference is that the cheaper ones tend to have 'hot spots', the
expensive ones are more uniform.  Or are supposed to be.

You can test for these by hanging a piece of aluminium foil in the tub, the
ultrasonics will punch holes it in.  By putting it in various places you can
find the weak & strong areas.

Of course if nothing happens to the foil then your cleaner is broken.

Tony

(I can hear the sound of people rushing off to play from here...)

2009\02\19@203850 by Tony Smith

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> Thanks for that but in NZ so shipping might be a tad expensive.


eBay, Jaycar, possibly DSE.  They all come from the same plant (or plans) in
China.

You got Aldi over there?  They sometime have them.  Sign up for their weekly
newsletter, the stuff they sell at times is truly fascinating.  "Dear,
remind me to get a jackhammer next time I go and buy some bananas."

Tony

2009\02\19@222441 by pic

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Yes I know that Jaycar sell them, in fact I literally have a jaycar shop
opposite my work. Its just they are $100 odd NZD and for something I am
unlikely to really utilise. Just got to find an single purpose that I can't
live without - and I'll get one.

Cheers

Chris
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2009\02\19@223229 by cdb

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:: You got Aldi over there?  They sometime have them.  Sign up for
:: their weekly
:: newsletter, the stuff they sell at times is truly fascinating.  
:: "Dear,
:: remind me to get a jackhammer next time I go and buy some bananas."

The big drawback with Aldi in Australia as opposed to Europe, is you
buy their gizzmo's, but unless they repromote them, consumables cannot
be bought down the track.  

Have you never tried to break into unripe bananas? Besides if you
break your crown on a banana, a jack hammer could save a trip to the
dentist.

Colin
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2009\02\19@233648 by Tony Smith

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> :: You got Aldi over there?  They sometime have them.  Sign up for
> :: their weekly
> :: newsletter, the stuff they sell at times is truly fascinating.
> :: "Dear,
> :: remind me to get a jackhammer next time I go and buy some bananas."
>
> The big drawback with Aldi in Australia as opposed to Europe, is you
> buy their gizzmo's, but unless they repromote them, consumables cannot
> be bought down the track.
>
> Have you never tried to break into unripe bananas? Besides if you
> break your crown on a banana, a jack hammer could save a trip to the
> dentist.


I see your point, but off hand I can't think of something that has hard to
get consumables (as far as tools goes).  Jackhammer bits maybe, but
ultrasonic cleaners don't really have any consumables as such.

Besides, I can always pull it apart and use the bits for something else,
which is probably why I brought it in the first place.

And I don't eat bananas until they have lots of black dots on them.  I blame
Disney for promoting the 'ripe bananas are yellow' thing.

Tony

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