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'[OT] SCO Group files for bankruptcy protection'
2007\09\15@224412 by Xiaofan Chen

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www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9778778-39.html

Good for Linux. Sad for SCO customers if there are still some.
My youngest brother worked in the telecom industry and
last time they used SCO, now they move to SUN Solaris
and Redhat Linux for the backend.

Long ago, I saw people using SCO ODT and it was
way better than Windows 3.x and even OS/2 2.x.


Regards,
Xiaofan

2007\09\16@043850 by Zik Saleeba

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The sad part of this story is that before all this SCO was in
financial trouble when out  of the blue they were saved by a venture
capital company called BayStar. With all this new money SCO made a
surprise change of direction from UNIX development to using all their
resources to go after Linux. A couple of years later it came out that
SCO/BayStar's attack on Linux was at the suggestion of Microsoft. So
basically it was all just a FUD campaign by Microsoft to hurt their
competition. It was pretty successful too, for a while. People were
worried. And the real bad guys of the piece - Microsoft - have got off
scott free while the mortally wounded remains of SCO go down in flames
and BayStar ended up losing a bundle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO-Linux_controversies#SCO_and_BayStar_Capital

Cheers,
Zik

On 9/16/07, Xiaofan Chen <spam_OUTxiaofancTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
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2007\09\16@081641 by Howard Winter

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Xiaofan,

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:44:10 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9778778-39.html

Interesting that they've done this just before the court decides how much they have to pay Novell!  Also that their last-quarter's losses are equal to their legal bills.

> Long ago, I saw people using SCO ODT and it was
> way better than Windows 3.x and even OS/2 2.x.

Stone me, that was a long time ago!  But I believe the SCO of that era was bought up subsequently and the name reused, so I don't think there's much in common
with the current firm.

Personally I blame the lawyers... even if the firm goes bust, they've made a tidy fortune making it so.

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2007\09\16@084850 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/16/07, Howard Winter <.....HDRWKILLspamspam@spam@h2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > Long ago, I saw people using SCO ODT and it was
> > way better than Windows 3.x and even OS/2 2.x.
>
> Stone me, that was a long time ago!  But I believe the SCO of
> that era was bought up subsequently and the name reused,
> so I don't think there's much in common with the current firm.
>

Yes that was quite a long time ago and I got only few chances to
play with computers. I saw some OS/2 installations, some
Novell Networks 3.x and some SCO ODT installations in the
university network labs. I did not have chances to play with
them. I only got some hours to use the old PC XT/AT (DOS),
MicroVAX (VMS), Honeywell DSP8 (GCOS). China at that time
was not as advanced as now in IT and that was partially why
I was not good at programming. ;-) The main reason was
that I did not see the need to do much programming until now.

The majority of SCO of that era (called Santa Cruz Operation) was
bought over by Caldera (one of the Linux pioneer). The other
part is now a division of SUN. Caldera changed the name to SCO
group and scaped their Linux business and focus on the
SCO Unix product. Then the whole saga of SCO against
IBM started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation

Xiaofan

2007\09\16@115232 by Nate Duehr

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Zik Saleeba wrote:
> The sad part of this story is that before all this SCO was in
> financial trouble when out  of the blue they were saved by a venture
> capital company called BayStar. With all this new money SCO made a

Yes, many people are unaware that "SCO" today is not the Santa Cruz
Operation of the past.  Those folks were good folks, generally.

"SCO" today is actually the "SCO Group", nothing but a shell
organization that wanted to revive the company to chase Intellectual
Property lawsuits.

Numerous "semi-embedded" and control systems out there still use
SCO-Unix, but there are a number of reasonable replacements available
both for free and commercially, as long as software vendors are still
around and updating their software for those other OS's.

Examples of things I've seen still running SCO Unix include older NEC
PBX/ACD control software, other various telco gear from the late 80's -
early 90's, etc.

The original SCO organization did good things for Unix on PC hardware
platforms.  The current SCO Group hasn't really done anything of value,
other than continue to support those old systems, for varying degrees of
"support".

Suing everyone on the planet over IP issues, and running your company
out of money, isn't exactly a good way to service your shareholders or
your software users.  (Perhaps the shareholders will go after the
company management personally if the company files for bankruptcy.
They've made plenty of money throughout their tenure.  In this
particular case, the shareholders might even have a case against the
Board of Directors for not removing the leadership.)

Nate


2007\09\17@170351 by alan smith

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The Utah based company bought out SCO...ie....Santa Cruz Operations...and took the name for themselves.  I dont even remember what they were called before that.

Howard Winter <HDRWspamKILLspamH2Org.demon.co.uk> wrote:  Xiaofan,

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:44:10 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9778778-39.html

Interesting that they've done this just before the court decides how much they have to pay Novell! Also that their last-quarter's losses are equal to their legal bills.

> Long ago, I saw people using SCO ODT and it was
> way better than Windows 3.x and even OS/2 2.x.

Stone me, that was a long time ago! But I believe the SCO of that era was bought up subsequently and the name reused, so I don't think there's much in common
with the current firm.

Personally I blame the lawyers... even if the firm goes bust, they've made a tidy fortune making it so.

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2007\09\18@090518 by William Couture

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On 9/17/07, alan smith <.....micro_eng2KILLspamspam.....yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Utah based company bought out SCO...ie....Santa Cruz Operations...and took the
> name for themselves.  I dont even remember what they were called before that.

Caldera

Bill

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