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'[OT] Reinstalling XP'
2006\09\14@155844 by David VanHorn

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Anyone have a clue on how to reinstall XP pro over XP pro SP2?
Doing it conventionally, gives me an error that the version I'm trying to
install is older than the one on the disk.
It seems that there should be a "just do it dammit" option somewhere.


Constraints:  The machine has no CDrom other than USB, and no floppy.
(Toshiba Libretto L1)



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2006\09\14@161240 by Christopher Cole

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On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:58:42PM -0400, David VanHorn wrote:
> Anyone have a clue on how to reinstall XP pro over XP pro SP2?

I remember a trick of removing or renaming win.com under:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\
I think if that is missing, the install would proceed.  Back up your files!!!
Take care,
-Chris

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2006\09\14@161947 by John Pfaff

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Normally I would say boot from the XP CD.  That would get you to the
"format HD then install" option.  Is that an option with your USB CD drive?

David VanHorn wrote:
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2006\09\14@161948 by Dave Wheeler

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Another way is to create a 'slipstreamed' CD with SP2 (assuming you want
SP2 installed), Gargoyle will point you in the right direction for free
tools to do it.

Dave


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2006\09\14@164957 by Paul James E.

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Rename windows.exe to something other than exe.  That should do it.

                                          Regards,

                                            Jim

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2006\09\14@171329 by David VanHorn

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> I remember a trick of removing or renaming win.com under:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\
> I think if that is missing, the install would proceed.  Back up your
> files!!!


That didn't get it.

2006\09\14@171439 by David VanHorn

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On 9/14/06, John Pfaff <.....jpfaff1528KILLspamspam@spam@verizon.net> wrote:
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> Normally I would say boot from the XP CD.  That would get you to the
> "format HD then install" option.  Is that an option with your USB CD
> drive?



You'd think so, but booting from the CD dosen't seem to work, and when I
install from the CD it tells me that it wont as above.

2006\09\14@203954 by genome

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setup wont wont allow you to overwrite the latest with the previews
version.. If your installing while windows is running..
The only way I've been able to do this is by booting to the windowsxp cd-rom
and then select repair windows XP installation when you try to install... do
not select the format thing... it will tell you that ther is already a
current windows installation just sellect to install over that.. it will
copy the old settings...

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2006\09\14@213742 by Peter van Hoof

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--- David VanHorn <EraseMEdvanhornspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmicrobrix.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a clue on how to reinstall XP pro over XP pro SP2?
> Doing it conventionally, gives me an error that the version I'm
> trying to
> install is older than the one on the disk.
> It seems that there should be a "just do it dammit" option somewhere.
>
>
> Constraints:  The machine has no CDrom other than USB, and no floppy.
> (Toshiba Libretto L1)

The best way I know and use myself is to upgrade your windows xp
install disc's to windows xp sp2 by a process called slipstreaming.

See for procedure:
www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html
It costs some time but will be great for future installs

Hope this helps

Peter van Hoof

2006\09\14@221530 by jtroxas

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If the repair windows xp is nor listed in the option do not continue you
will remove all registry settings and it would be like doing a clean install
and you will again have to reinstall programs...
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2006\09\14@225657 by David VanHorn

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On 9/14/06, jtroxas <jtroxasspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
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> If the repair windows xp is nor listed in the option do not continue you
> will remove all registry settings and it would be like doing a clean
> install
> and you will again have to reinstall programs...


That is exactly what I want. A total scrub and re-build

2006\09\15@005418 by Steve Smith

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Fdisk
Delete the primarily partition it thinks the disk is new then..

Steve

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On 9/14/06, jtroxas <RemoveMEjtroxasTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
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> If the repair windows xp is nor listed in the option do not continue you
> will remove all registry settings and it would be like doing a clean
> install
> and you will again have to reinstall programs...


That is exactly what I want. A total scrub and re-build

2006\09\15@011653 by jtroxas

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I see.. then follow the link it would explain things better..
there are images so you cannot not go wrong..

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm

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2006\09\15@013853 by jtroxas

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uhm and oh I almost forgot.. you may want to backup your documents to
another disk.. because since you want a clean install it is better to just
tell the setup to format the drive when it asks you.. programs kind of leave
a lot garbage in the disk even when you uninstall them so its agood idea to
free up more space..... also if you have a single drive then maybe it is
wiser to repartition the drive into two one for programs and one for your
documents just incase windows crash again and you cant acces the drive your
documents woeuld be safe in the other partition.. theres an option in the
setup for you to do that just read the instructions in that blue screen....

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2006\09\16@154416 by David VanHorn

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Well this is bloody miserable.

I took the drive out of the machine (nasty) and formatted it in NTFS, made
the partition active, and copied the i386 directory to the drive, then
reinstalled it. (nasty)

The L1 Cannot boot from the CD, it is USB external, and there is NO option
for an internal CD.
The bios has a selection for 'boot from CD", but apparently that refers to
an IDE CD, which is physically impossible.

The six  disk set from MS crashes on disk 5

Anything else I've tried, leaves me at a dos prompt, but no access to the
hard disk to start the install process.

Any ideas?

2006\09\16@164458 by billfinkle

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Hi try this


Format drive fat32  /s
Copy smartdrv.exe
Copy i386 folder

Refit drive
Boot up
Run smartdrv
Cd i386
Run winnt or setup ?

Awhile since I had to do this

Bill F


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2006\09\16@165842 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/14/06, David VanHorn <spamBeGonedvanhornspamBeGonespammicrobrix.com> wrote:
> Anyone have a clue on how to reinstall XP pro over XP pro SP2?
> Doing it conventionally, gives me an error that the version I'm trying to
> install is older than the one on the disk.
> It seems that there should be a "just do it dammit" option somewhere.
>
> Constraints:  The machine has no CDrom other than USB, and no floppy.
> (Toshiba Libretto L1)
>

Just wondering why you want to do this? Windows XP SP2 on such an
underpowered machine? Not a good idea. I guess it comes with
Windows 98SE and it might be a good idea to stick to it or use
some older version of Linux.

BTW, Google for "Toshiba Libretto L1" and your page is the
No 2 hit for web pages (not coutning the first advertisement entry).

http://www.dvanhorn.org/L1/Index.php

PS: the web page returns some errors:

Warning: main(/footer.inc): failed to open stream: No such file or
directory in /home/dvanhorn/public_html/L1/Index.php on line 11

Warning: main(): Failed opening '/footer.inc' for inclusion
(include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in
/home/dvanhorn/public_html/L1/Index.php on line 11


Xiaofan

2006\09\16@170106 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/16/06, billfinkle <TakeThisOuTbillfinkleEraseMEspamspam_OUTbtinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi try this
>
>
> Format drive fat32  /s
> Copy smartdrv.exe
> Copy i386 folder
>
> Refit drive
> Boot up
> Run smartdrv
> Cd i386
> Run winnt or setup ?
>
> Awhile since I had to do this
>
> Bill F
>

I believe this works well for Windows 95/98SE.
Not so sure about Windows XP. I think this should work.

2006\09\16@171120 by billfinkle

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Hi

Used to do this a lot with nt saved a lot of time. Ran smartdrv diskcaching
saved hours.

Winnt32.exe is the file to run Just checked

Bill F

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2006\09\16@193740 by William Chops Westfield

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On Sep 16, 2006, at 12:44 PM, David VanHorn wrote:

> The bios has a selection for 'boot from CD", but apparently
>  that refers to an IDE CD, which is physically impossible.
>
Does the bios have USB boot support that needs to be turned on?

BillW

2006\09\16@200308 by David VanHorn

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> Does the bios have USB boot support that needs to be turned on?


No. The bios has no options whatsoever.

2006\09\17@175453 by genome

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how large is the drive??
this is what you must do...
try to format a disk in windows xp by right clicking drive A:> in windows
explorer and select format then from the menu select copy system files or
something that makes the floppy bootable.. you can boot from ths floppy
assuming you have a floppy drive... and acces the drive at the dos promt..
then install windows xp by running setup in the i386 folder..

if you dont have a floppy drive... then takeout your disk again and slave it
on onother computer and then format it with FA32 and not NTFS.. then copy
winxp installation files to that drive.. after this restart and boot to
recovery console on the computer you used to format the drive.. and install
msdos on the fat32 drive.. return the drive to the other comp, power up and
msdos should boot.. now you can acces i386 folder and install windowsxp..

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2006\09\17@181041 by jtroxas

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you can then convert the fa32 drive to ntfs after windowsxp is installed by
right clicking the drive in windoes explorer.. or in the command prompt:
convert c: /FS:NTFS
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2006\09\17@182246 by jtroxas

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if this is too much hassle then i suggest that you borrow an ide cdrom drive
from a friend...
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2006\09\17@182930 by David VanHorn

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On 9/17/06, genome <RemoveMEjtroxasTakeThisOuTspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
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> how large is the drive??
> this is what you must do...
> try to format a disk in windows xp by right clicking drive A:> in windows
> explorer and select format then from the menu select copy system files or
> something that makes the floppy bootable.. you can boot from ths floppy
> assuming you have a floppy drive... and acces the drive at the dos promt..
> then install windows xp by running setup in the i386 folder..


I've done this, and although the drive IS partitioned and formatted, the
boot disk made in XP dosen't allow access to it, except by Fdisk.

if you dont have a floppy drive... then takeout your disk again and slave it
> on onother computer and then format it with FA32 and not NTFS.. then copy
> winxp installation files to that drive.. after this restart and boot to
> recovery console on the computer you used to format the drive.. and
> install
> msdos on the fat32 drive.. return the drive to the other comp, power up
> and
> msdos should boot.. now you can acces i386 folder and install windowsxp..


That's probably what I'll have to try.  What an amazing PITA.

2006\09\17@190849 by David VanHorn

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On 9/17/06, jtroxas <EraseMEjtroxasspamspamspamBeGonegmail.com> wrote:
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> if this is too much hassle then i suggest that you borrow an ide cdrom
> drive
> from a friend...


There is no way to put one on the system.

dynabook.com/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/index_j.htm
www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.09/streetcred.html?pg=12

2006\09\17@191822 by jtroxas

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I see you have a floppy drive.. then you dont need to install msdos just
plugin the floppy boot disk with an fat32 formatted drive and you should
have access fa32 have no security rights support unlike ntfs.. the ntfs
command.com that comes with xp restrict access to some ntfs drive if you do
not have security rights.. to gain acces you will need 3rdparty software..

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2006\09\17@192151 by jtroxas

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and the boot disk that comes with previous version of windows cannot see
ntfs disks formatted by xp..

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