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1999\09\13@165042 by Dan Creagan

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Depends on which source you are talking about.  Many things
don't transfer.  Borland libraries (the infamous T series)
are examples.  Much of what doesn't come across is due to
upgrading to ANSI and not keeping the pseudo-Borland
standards. However, much is just dropped.

If you wrote to ANSI standards, then you were probably OK -
there are exceptions. If you used Borland specific
libraries, you have a bit of recoding to do.

Dan

>>BTW, what products have they abandoned?  I'm guessing that
you're
>>referring to their Turbo products?
>
>Which happen to have been replaced by Borland products that
accept the same
>source code just fine...
>

1999\09\13@171939 by Andy Kunz

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>If you wrote to ANSI standards, then you were probably OK -
>there are exceptions. If you used Borland specific
>libraries, you have a bit of recoding to do.

Stuck with ANSI.

Andy

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1999\09\14@005953 by Steve Ridley

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I don't want to fan this fire but since we have raised the topic of Borland
dropping products. Does anybody know whatever happened to Brief the editor.
Originally by Underware, subsequently bought by Borland then shelved. As far
as I know.

Steve

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1999\09\14@015835 by Ted Richard Williams

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JBuilder has a Brief mode. (Too bad they don't have a vi mode:)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Steve Ridley wrote:

> I don't want to fan this fire but since we have raised the topic of Borland
> dropping products. Does anybody know whatever happened to Brief the editor.
> Originally by Underware, subsequently bought by Borland then shelved. As far
> as I know.
>
> Steve
>
> {Original Message removed}

1999\09\14@114233 by John Pfaff

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Last version of Brief (for DOS and OS/2, not Windoze), was 3.1.

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Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 1:00 am
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MChip F___ Up!


I don't want to fan this fire but since we have raised the topic of Borland
dropping products. Does anybody know whatever happened to Brief the editor.
Originally by Underware, subsequently bought by Borland then shelved. As far
as I know.

Steve

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Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:09 AM
Subject: [OT] Re: MChip F___ Up!


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1999\09\14@114832 by Dave VanHorn

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> >>Which happen to have been replaced by Borland products that
> >accept the same source code just fine...


So whatever happened to Turbo Modula II ?
I remember having a conversation with borland, where the fellow on the other
end was insisting that they didn't make such a product, and sitting on my
desk is the borland box, with borland disks, and borland manuals, saying
Turbo Modula II all over it.


"We will never drop support for the PC Jr"..  An IBM spokesman less than 30
days before support for the PC Jr was terminated.

IBM RT anyone?

1999\09\14@121550 by Bob Drzyzgula

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On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:39:29AM -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:
> > >>Which happen to have been replaced by Borland products that
> > >accept the same source code just fine...
>
> "We will never drop support for the PC Jr"..  An IBM spokesman less than 30
> days before support for the PC Jr was terminated.
>
> IBM RT anyone?

ROMP chip. Gave way to the Power architecture. I worked on
a demo unit for a couple of months in 1986. I remember
I was sitting at it's console when I heard that the
Challanger blew up.  That was January (the month that they
were announced), and I recall that we all appreciated it's
space heating capabilities. AIX, as implemented on the RT
PC, was essentially an application running on a lower-level
OS called the Virtual Resource Manager, similar in concept
to NT's Hardware Abstraction Layer. Later that year, we
did an RFP for a whole workstation system: Workstations,
servers, network cabling & electronics, etc. There were
four bidders: IBM with the RT PC, Apollo with their Domain
Workstations, DEC with the MicroVAX, and an integrator
bidding Sun 3s. Thank goodness, the Sun bid won...

--Bob

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1999\09\15@041401 by root

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Hi,

and what about Turbo Prolog? And Eureka (the Solver) 1.0? The latter I
know is sold and to be found now as Mercury 2.09. It is excellent for the
purpose its own (e. g. drawing function graphs, solving equations, etc.)
I use it extensively at teaching.

Imre


On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, John Pfaff wrote:

> Last version of Brief (for DOS and OS/2, not Windoze), was 3.1.
>
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1999\09\15@051914 by Ray Gardiner

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>> From: Steve Ridley <spamBeGonesteverspamBeGonespamINSNET.COM.AU>
>> I don't want to fan this fire but since we have raised the topic of Borland
>> dropping products. Does anybody know whatever happened to Brief the editor.
>> Originally by Underware, subsequently bought by Borland then shelved. As far
>> as I know.
>>
>> Steve
>>

Now, let me recap to see if I got this right, Borland purchased
Underware, which included Brief the editor... which was dropped.

I bet they were embarrassed!... dropping Brief's usually
has that effect.




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1999\09\15@093045 by Andy Kunz

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>I bet they were embarrassed!... dropping Brief's usually
>has that effect.

No, they weren't - they took lessons from Bill Clinton, and turned it into
a good thing.

Andy

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