Post by thread:[OT] Problems and solutions (Was: [PIC] Preemptive

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 20:16, Jan-Erik Soderholm <spam_OUTjan-erik.soderholmTakeThisOuTtelia.com> wrote: > As some one else wrote earlier today about this, an preemptive > OS on a such small device as an PIC16 might very well end > up as a "problem" more then a "solution". That post immediately called for reciting the following old-but-good quote from comp.lang.emacs: Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know, I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems. --Jamie Zawinski -- - Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rikard Bosnjakovic <.....rikard.bosnjakovicKILLspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote: > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know, > I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems. > > --Jamie Zawinski This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past. Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested.

> > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know, > > I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems. > > > > --Jamie Zawinski > > This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular > expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past. > Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve > problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested. Lol. D'ya Google the name? Allow me to predict your future, it involves someone walking past, pointing and saying "Ha Ha!", Nelson Muntz style. Regular expressions are like Perl, often it's a write-only language. Don't forget to keep the comments up to date. Tony

solarwind wrote: > This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular > expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past. > Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve > problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested. You left out squirrly and difficult to debug when things don't go as expected. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000.

> -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bouncesspam_OUTmit.edu [@spam@piclist-bouncesKILLspammit.edu] On Behalf > Of solarwind > Sent: 25 May 2009 22:22 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] Problems and solutions (Was: [PIC] Preemptive Timing) > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Olin Lathrop <KILLspamolin_piclistKILLspamembedinc.com> > wrote: > > You left out squirrly and difficult to debug when things don't go as > > expected. > > That's an interesting side to this. I've worked a lot with regular > expressions. I think they're pretty easy to work with. There's a lot > of tools out there to "debug" regular expressions and help you make > useful code. I wonder why so many of these tools exist? Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. =======================================================================

> > Lol. D'ya Google the name? > > > > Allow me to predict your future, it involves someone walking past, pointing > > and saying "Ha Ha!", Nelson Muntz style. > > > > Regular expressions are like Perl, often it's a write-only language. Don't {Quote hidden}> > forget to keep the comments up to date. > > > Wow, you're a real trouble maker, aren't ya boy? > > I bet you were the kid in school that got picked on routinely - that's > why you believe you must do the same on the Internet. Pathetic. > > Please, everyone thinks you're an asshole - change your attitude. We > don't need shit like this on the list. Didn't your damn mother ever > teach you to either add positively to the conversation, or don't reply > at all? It's a very valuable lesson. > > Don't bother replying. I've permanently filtered your messages to be > deleted. Gotta love gmail blocking capabilities. Don't people say *plonk* anymore? If you make a broad sweeping statement that essentially wrong (or even if it isn't), people are going to laugh, poke fun, or call you an idiot. That's life. (I'm fairly sure Jamie Zawinski knows his way around a regex.) I've have various PicList members cheerfully call me all varieties of idiot, the last I recall was where I claimed ethernet was dead. Of course I was listing ports and meant thick/thin, but yeah well anyway (some did notice it was the odd one out...). Was I annoyed? Of course. Did I deserve it? Probably, in my line of work accuracy counts, and I didn't proofread what I wrote. I'm wasn't about to abuse anyone offlist because of it though, and I never have. The point stands, most programmers suffer from NIH (Not Invented Here), and the dreaded 'one-liner' syndrome as well. At some stage when you don't have the time, you are going to have to decipher the regex (or whatever), and someone will say 'told you so'. I've a lot of scripts with a lot of regular expressions, and I've no idea how some of them work anymore. Some I wrote, some I didn't, that's just how things are. Any tool is the same, see <http://thedailywtf.com/articles/cell-24z.aspx>, and the solution, as mentioned in the comments, is usually the same. Y'know, in over 15 years of various lists, I've had exactly four people offended enough to send me abuse offlist (and I don't hide my address - I've only got one). Well, one was a case of mistaken identity, so only three. You've undoubtedly abused that many people one just this one list in your time here. But yes, you're probably correct, my attitude needs adjusting. Tony

{Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTmit.edu [spamBeGonepiclist-bouncesspamBeGonemit.edu] On Behalf > Of Tony Smith > Sent: 26 May 2009 15:05 > To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.' > Subject: RE: [OT] Problems and solutions (Was: [PIC] Preemptive Timing) > > > > Lol. D'ya Google the name? > > > > > > Allow me to predict your future, it involves someone walking past, > pointing > > > and saying "Ha Ha!", Nelson Muntz style. > > > > > > Regular expressions are like Perl, often it's a write-only language. > Don't > > > forget to keep the comments up to date. > > > > > > Wow, you're a real trouble maker, aren't ya boy? > > > > I bet you were the kid in school that got picked on routinely - that's > > why you believe you must do the same on the Internet. Pathetic. > > > > Please, everyone thinks you're an asshole - We appear to have a pot-kettle colour ambiguity situation here! Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. =======================================================================