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'[OT] Problems and solutions (Was: [PIC] Preemptive'
2009\05\24@173630 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 20:16, Jan-Erik Soderholm
<spam_OUTjan-erik.soderholmTakeThisOuTspamtelia.com> wrote:

> As some one else wrote earlier today about this, an preemptive
> OS on a such small device as an PIC16 might very well end
> up as a "problem" more then a "solution".

That post immediately called for reciting the following old-but-good
quote from comp.lang.emacs:

   Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know,
   I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems.
       
               --Jamie Zawinski


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2009\05\24@203438 by solarwind

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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rikard Bosnjakovic
<.....rikard.bosnjakovicKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
>    Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know,
>    I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems.
>
>                --Jamie Zawinski

This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular
expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past.
Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve
problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested.

2009\05\25@090704 by Tony Smith

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> >    Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know,
> >    I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems.
> >
> >                --Jamie Zawinski
>
> This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular
> expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past.
> Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve
> problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested.


Lol.  D'ya Google the name?

Allow me to predict your future, it involves someone walking past, pointing
and saying "Ha Ha!", Nelson Muntz style.

Regular expressions are like Perl, often it's a write-only language.  Don't
forget to keep the comments up to date.

Tony

2009\05\25@092338 by olin piclist

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solarwind wrote:
> This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about. Regular
> expressions are awesome. They've worked so well for me in the past.
> Really well. They're used all over the world, all the time. They solve
> problems. They're easy to use, solid and time tested.

You left out squirrly and difficult to debug when things don't go as
expected.


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2009\05\25@152748 by Rikard Bosnjakovic
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:34, solarwind <x.solarwind.xspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:

> This jamie zawinski dude has no idea what he's talking about.

...said the one who asked why his RS485-tokens would get lost in transmission.


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2009\05\25@172242 by solarwind

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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Olin Lathrop <.....olin_piclistKILLspamspam.....embedinc.com> wrote:
> You left out squirrly and difficult to debug when things don't go as
> expected.

That's an interesting side to this. I've worked a lot with regular
expressions. I think they're pretty easy to work with. There's a lot
of tools out there to "debug" regular expressions and help you make
useful code.

2009\05\25@212632 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On May 25, 2009, at 2:22 PM, solarwind wrote:

>>    Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know,
>>    I’ll use regular expressions.”. Now they have two problems.

> There's a lot of tools out there to "debug" regular expressions and  
> help you make useful code.

No doubt, and ... exactly!

BillW

2009\05\26@031858 by Tamas Rudnai

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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:26 AM, William "Chops" Westfield
<EraseMEwestfwspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmac.com>wrote:

> > There's a lot of tools out there to "debug" regular expressions and
> > help you make useful code.
>
> No doubt, and ... exactly!


Would you please share the names of the most useful tools? Are you talking
about now on using regexp with C or with some script languages?

Thanks,
Tamas
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2009\05\26@090352 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-bouncesspamspam_OUTmit.edu [@spam@piclist-bouncesKILLspamspammit.edu] On
Behalf
> Of solarwind
> Sent: 25 May 2009 22:22
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> Subject: Re: [OT] Problems and solutions (Was: [PIC] Preemptive
Timing)
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Olin Lathrop
<KILLspamolin_piclistKILLspamspamembedinc.com>
> wrote:
> > You left out squirrly and difficult to debug when things don't go as
> > expected.
>
> That's an interesting side to this. I've worked a lot with regular
> expressions. I think they're pretty easy to work with. There's a lot
> of tools out there to "debug" regular expressions and help you make
> useful code.

I wonder why so many of these tools exist?

Mike

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2009\05\26@100742 by Tony Smith

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> > Lol.  D'ya Google the name?
> >
> > Allow me to predict your future, it involves someone walking past,
pointing
> > and saying "Ha Ha!", Nelson Muntz style.
> >
> > Regular expressions are like Perl, often it's a write-only language.
 Don't
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Don't people say *plonk* anymore?

If you make a broad sweeping statement that essentially wrong (or even if it
isn't), people are going to laugh, poke fun, or call you an idiot.  That's
life.  (I'm fairly sure Jamie Zawinski knows his way around a regex.)  

I've have various PicList members cheerfully call me all varieties of idiot,
the last I recall was where I claimed ethernet was dead.  Of course I was
listing ports and meant thick/thin, but yeah well anyway (some did notice it
was the odd one out...).  Was I annoyed?  Of course.  Did I deserve it?
Probably, in my line of work accuracy counts, and I didn't proofread what I
wrote.  I'm wasn't about to abuse anyone offlist because of it though, and I
never have.

The point stands, most programmers suffer from NIH (Not Invented Here), and
the dreaded 'one-liner' syndrome as well.  At some stage when you don't have
the time, you are going to have to decipher the regex (or whatever), and
someone will say 'told you so'.

I've a lot of scripts with a lot of regular expressions, and I've no idea
how some of them work anymore.  Some I wrote, some I didn't, that's just how
things are.  Any tool is the same, see
<http://thedailywtf.com/articles/cell-24z.aspx>, and the solution, as
mentioned in the comments, is usually the same.

Y'know, in over 15 years of various lists, I've had exactly four people
offended enough to send me abuse offlist (and I don't hide my address - I've
only got one).  Well, one was a case of mistaken identity, so only three.
You've undoubtedly abused that many people one just this one list in your
time here.  But yes, you're probably correct, my attitude needs adjusting.

Tony

2009\05\26@111740 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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We appear to have a pot-kettle colour ambiguity situation here!

Regards

Mike

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2009\05\27@061407 by Tony Smith

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> We appear to have a pot-kettle colour ambiguity situation here!
>
> Regards
>
> Mike


When the exchange rate is a slight better so I can order more stuff from the
USA, I'm going to powder coat mine electric blue.  It should turn out
awesome.

Ok, not quite what you meant.

Tony

(btw, if anyone in Oz ever needs a few small bits & pieces powder coated,
drop me a line)

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