Post by thread:[OT] Prayers was Re: Vpp from the phone line.

At 10:50 AM 12/4/98 +1300, you wrote: >>Propoerly applied zeners have a higher confidence rate than prayers >>usually imho. >>Peter > > >This is a common fallacy. >Prayers also have to be applied properly :-) Proper direction (orientation) is also essential. ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA ==================================================================

Andy Kunz wrote: > > Proper direction (orientation) is also essential. I second that! From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world" Tip and Ring are often reversed. I would use a full-wave bridge reticifer to avoid the arc welding if I were doing it. Michael ************************************************************************* When the way of the Tao is forgotten, kindness and ethics must be taught. Men must learn to pretend to be wise and good. -- Lao Tzu *************************************************************************

> > Proper direction (orientation) is also essential. > > I second that! From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world" > Tip and Ring are often reversed. I would use a full-wave bridge reticifer to > avoid the arc welding if I were doing it. > When they cut Waikiki over to ESS, they lost half the phones. It seems they were all done with tone dialers, but without a bridge. I guess everyone just reversed the wires till it worked. :)

Dave VanHorn wrote: >>> Proper direction (orientation) is also essential. >> I second that! From my days in Telecom I have found that in the >> "real world" Tip and Ring are often reversed. I would use a >> full-wave bridge reticifer to avoid the arc welding if I were doing >> it. > When they cut Waikiki over to ESS, they lost half the phones. It seems > they were all done with tone dialers, but without a bridge. I guess > everyone just reversed the wires till it worked. :) How do you sell phones without bridges? You do mean the phones, not the line equipment? Oh well in the US I suppose ... No, actually, I think Andy's reference to "Proper direction (orientation)" may have been mis-understood. I suspect he was referring to the prayers, not the phone line. -- Cheers, Paul B.

> I second that! From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world" > Tip and Ring are often reversed. You mean like 50%? In my early days I treated them interchangable and didn't even know they have different names :---)