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'[OT] Prayers was Re: Vpp from the phone line.'
1998\12\04@092341 by Andy Kunz

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At 10:50 AM 12/4/98 +1300, you wrote:
>>Propoerly applied zeners have a higher confidence rate than prayers
>>usually imho.
>>Peter
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>This is a common fallacy.
>Prayers also have to be applied properly :-)

Proper direction (orientation) is also essential.

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Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA
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1998\12\04@200457 by Michael J. Ghormley

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Andy Kunz wrote:
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> Proper direction (orientation) is also essential.

I second that!  From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world"
Tip and Ring are often reversed.  I would use a full-wave bridge reticifer to
avoid the arc welding if I were doing it.

Michael

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1998\12\04@203908 by Dave VanHorn

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> > Proper direction (orientation) is also essential.
>
> I second that!  From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world"
> Tip and Ring are often reversed.  I would use a full-wave bridge reticifer to
> avoid the arc welding if I were doing it.
>

When they cut Waikiki over to ESS, they lost half the phones. It seems
they were all done with tone dialers, but without a bridge. I guess
everyone just reversed the wires till it worked. :)

1998\12\05@025625 by paulb

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Dave VanHorn wrote:

>>> Proper direction (orientation) is also essential.
>> I second that!  From my days in Telecom I have found that in the
>> "real world" Tip and Ring are often reversed.  I would use a
>> full-wave bridge reticifer to avoid the arc welding if I were doing
>> it.

> When they cut Waikiki over to ESS, they lost half the phones. It seems
> they were all done with tone dialers, but without a bridge. I guess
> everyone just reversed the wires till it worked. :)

 How do you sell phones without bridges?  You do mean the phones, not
the line equipment?  Oh well in the US I suppose ...

 No, actually, I think Andy's reference to "Proper direction
(orientation)" may have been mis-understood.  I suspect he was referring
to the prayers, not the phone line.
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       Paul B.

1998\12\06@150048 by Marc

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> I second that!  From my days in Telecom I have found that in the "real world"
> Tip and Ring are often reversed.

You mean like 50%?



In my early days I treated them interchangable and didn't even know they have
different names :---)

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