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1998\11\09@234103 by James Cameron

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Craig Webb wrote:
> I'm sending this again because it bounced back.

No, it didn't.  The bounce was secondary rather than primary.  Check the
source of the bounce; if it's within the mit.edu domain of the list
address then you may assume it was a primary bounce.  The current set of
bounces are secondary, and do not mean you should send again.


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1998\11\10@075832 by paulb

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James Cameron wrote:

> Craig Webb wrote:
>> I'm sending this again because it bounced back.
> No, it didn't.  The bounce was secondary rather than primary.
> Check the source of the bounce; if it's within the mit.edu domain of
> the list address then you may assume it was a primary bounce.  The
> current set of bounces are secondary, and do not mean you should send
> again.

 This one is getting to stick in my craw too.  It's bad enough when
people can't look and find where a "bounce" is coming from, but what
gets me is - it doesn't matter anyway.

 Just *what* quirk of psychosis, I must ask, makes people think that if
something comes back as "not deliverable", they should *send it again*?

 Please - if something happens on your e-mail and you don't know why,
ask someone who *knows what they are doing*!  (Variant of: RTFM)

 Remember the old comedy sketch when the comedian steps on the rake and
the handle flips up and hits him in the face - then he staggers back,
disoriented, recovers his senses, walks forward and steps on the rake
again?

 Debugging programs must be a fascinating experience as practiced by
some - if we could only watch!
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       Paul B.

1998\11\10@113821 by Peter L. Peres

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Paul B. Webster VK2BZC wrote:

>   Just *what* quirk of psychosis, I must ask, makes people think that if
> something comes back as "not deliverable", they should *send it again*?

How else can you start a mail loop ? At least they are trying hard. Not
hard enough, yet, however. Sheesh.

>   Please - if something happens on your e-mail and you don't know why,
> ask someone who *knows what they are doing*!  (Variant of: RTFM)

You mean ask / announce on the list ? But they do ! They all post messages
to the list saying that their messages to the list are bouncing.

>   Remember the old comedy sketch when the comedian steps on the rake and
> the handle flips up and hits him in the face - then he staggers back,
> disoriented, recovers his senses, walks forward and steps on the rake
> again?

Yes, yes, yes, that's the idea. Learning by repetition. Then, of course,
there are those who get to really like it and keep up the practice on
other lists too. I know a few. I have also heard of people who do it in
real reality, with a real rake, they like it so much.

>   Debugging programs must be a fascinating experience as practiced by
> some - if we could only watch!

These guys are in the club with the motto 'bug fixing brings no revenue'.
This is an excuse for practicing the bouncing which they like so much,
of course.

Now, if you know who had the largest volume of postings to the list last
time counted, and know that each posting brings one or two bounces and has
been on for the last week or so, CAN YOU TELL WHY I AM GETTING REALLY
PISSED OFF ?

Peter

1998\11\10@181319 by Mark Willis

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Peter L. Peres wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Paul B. Webster VK2BZC wrote:
> <snipped a bit>
> >   Remember the old comedy sketch when the comedian steps on the rake and
> > the handle flips up and hits him in the face - then he staggers back,
> > disoriented, recovers his senses, walks forward and steps on the rake
> > again?
>
> Yes, yes, yes, that's the idea. Learning by repetition. Then, of course,
> there are those who get to really like it and keep up the practice on
> other lists too. I know a few. I have also heard of people who do it in
> real reality, with a real rake, they like it so much.

 "The good thing about beating your head against the wall is, it feels
SO good when you quit", folks!  <G>

 Mark, .....mwillisKILLspamspam@spam@nwlink.com

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