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2005\04\13@231920 by Dwayne Reid

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Good day to all.

Russell's comments about the scenery in Arizona and Fred Langa's latest
newsletter both occurred today - and are vaguely related.  Fred tells of a
fully functional software demo that will stitch multiple digital photos
together to make a large panoramic composite.  The sample shown on the
website originated as 56 individual photos and looks stunning.

From his newsletter:

     Hi Fred: I recently came across a very impressive technological
     advance and tool, which can bring panoramic photography within
     reach of anyone with a digital camera.

     The tool is called AutoStitch and can be found at
     www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html
     Actually, the download is a development prototype demo, not a
     finished product by any means, but to the extent that I've used
     it, it works as described on the website.  The program
     automatically discovers and 'stitches' together overlapping
     photos from a group of photos, and creates a panoramic output
     file.  It can combine photos horizontally and vertically.
     It requires no installation, and the single executable is quite
     small (~700kb), considering what it does.

     The demo has a very simple user interface (except for the
     options, which can be ignored).  It has three basic steps,
     select the input file group, display the options from the
     initial calculations, and calculate and produce the output
     image (pano.jpg in the same directory as the input).  It takes
     only a few minutes to execute on a 300MHz CPU.  The options
     screen is mainly for development, but one option which might be
     useful controls the output file size.

     As a test, I stood against one wall of a room and photographed
     the other three walls in a group of eight photos, four
     including part of the ceiling and four including part of the
     floor.  The program stitched these photos together seamlessly,
     and the result had surprisingly little barrel distortion.

     Check out the web site, but those with a dial-up connection
     should be prepared to spend a lot of time there - it's mostly
     all graphics.  The Research page provides more technical
     details, and points to two documentation downloads - a slide
     presentation and a technical paper, both of which require a
     degree in advanced mathematics to understand.

     There seems to be only two major requirements in taking the
     photos - they must overlap and they must be taken from a single
     point of view.  The process will even work if some of the
     photos were taken with slightly different zoom settings!

     I find it all rather amazing, and  I'd like to see this
     functionality included in every digital photo workbench out
     there.

     Looking forward to the next issue.--Tom Mighill

Wow--- you're right, Tom, this is impressive. This tool lets your PC do
what used to take a supercomputer and a roomful of highly-skilled
technicians. Amazing!

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BTW - I've previously quoted material from Fred Langa's excellent
newsletter but neglected to provide links.  Check it out at <http://www.langa.com>
& <http://www.langalist.com>.  He has both a free and subscription version of the
newsletter available.

Hope this is useful to someone.

dwayne


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2005\04\14@043622 by Russell McMahon

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> Russell's comments about the scenery in Arizona and Fred Langa's
> latest newsletter both occurred today - and are vaguely related.
> Fred tells of a fully functional software demo that will stitch
> multiple digital photos together to make a large panoramic
> composite.  The sample shown on the website originated as 56
> individual photos and looks stunning.

>      The tool is called AutoStitch and can be found at
>      http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html


UTTERLY superb.
Brilliant
Fantastic
Rave rave rave ....

If anyone wants a 1.1 MB 360 degree panorama of Meteor Crater made
from 16 of my photos using this software look here

   http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg

Not perfect but amazing considering. No user input apart from
supplying photos.
View at full screen HEIGHT with eg Irfanview and pan. Viewing full
screen width looks only so so.

If anyone has trouble downloading this picture please advise.
I note some downloads of some files report less than full size files.
Don't know why.



           RM



2005\04\14@055626 by Alan B. Pearce

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>>      The tool is called AutoStitch and can be found at
>>      http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html
>
>
>UTTERLY superb.
>Brilliant
>Fantastic
>Rave rave rave ....
>
>If anyone wants a 1.1 MB 360 degree panorama of Meteor Crater made
>from 16 of my photos using this software look here
>
>    http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg

Hey that does look great Russell. Expanded out on my dial monitor desktop,
it really gives a feel for the size of hole.

2005\04\14@065639 by Howard Winter

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Russell,

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:36:15 +1200, Russell McMahon
wrote:

> UTTERLY superb.
> Brilliant
> Fantastic
> Rave rave rave ....
>
> If anyone wants a 1.1 MB 360 degree panorama of Meteor
Crater made
> from 16 of my photos using this software look here
>
>    
others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jp
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Amazing!  My own camera (Canon S50) will do stitching
for you when you take a group of photos like this, but
not with anything like this quality!

Just one query:  what are the blobs "above" the building
in the second slice from the right?

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2005\04\14@075403 by Russell McMahon
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> http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jp

> Amazing!  My own camera (Canon S50) will do stitching
> for you when you take a group of photos like this, but
> not with anything like this quality!
>
> Just one query:  what are the blobs "above" the building
> in the second slice from the right?

It's not perfect.
The blobs have no obvious source and no obvious reason for being there
given that most other places are OK. There's one similar effect
somewhere else but less obvious. It could be due to a very large
overlap at that point between several images. The picture is
significantly imperfect in a number of other places that are not
obvious if you don't have the originals. There are 3 original marker
posts on the left rim but 5 AFAIK in the panorama. Some of the paving
ends far too abruptly in the panorama. I imagine that looking at the
originals would give some clue as to why and help cropping etc of
originals. This was a rather demanding merge as there was substantial
overlap and some change in rotation etc.

   RM

2005\04\14@075602 by Russell McMahon

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>>If anyone wants a 1.1 MB 360 degree panorama of Meteor Crater made
>>from 16 of my photos using this software look here
>>
>>    http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg

> Hey that does look great Russell. Expanded out on my dial monitor
> desktop,
> it really gives a feel for the size of hole.

About 1 mile / 1.6 km across.
Far steeper and deeper than may seem in photo.

Has anyone had trouble downloading it?
There have been 35 or so attempts so far.
Most show correct size but two are wrong size or 304 message.
Don't know why.

Typical good accesses:

xxxxxxxxx5.154 - - [14/Apr/2005:20:46:10 +1200] "GET
/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg HTTP/1.0" 200 1191169

xxxxxxxxx4.250 - - [14/Apr/2005:20:54:21 +1200] "GET
/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 1191169

The two failures;

xxxxxxxxxxum.org.uk - - [14/Apr/2005:22:49:23 +1200] "GET
/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg HTTP/1.1" 206 417025

xxxxxxxxxxxx4-74.69-21.unk.tds.net - - [14/Apr/2005:23:22:33 +1200]
"GET /temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 -



       RM
   

2005\04\14@082456 by Aza D. Oberman

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<Russell McMahon asks about
http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg >

> Has anyone had trouble downloading it?
> There have been 35 or so attempts so far.
> Most show correct size but two are wrong size or 304 message.
> Don't know why.

Browser timeouts?  It's a big file.

2005\04\14@090017 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> <Russell McMahon asks about
> http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg >
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> > Has anyone had trouble downloading it?
> > There have been 35 or so attempts so far.
> > Most show correct size but two are wrong size or 304 message.
> > Don't know why.

I immediately get 'done' without anything to see.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2005\04\14@093319 by Dave Lag

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Surprised the software couldn't attach the top rail of the observation
platform. What year was that Russell?
D

Russell McMahon wrote:
>............ The picture is significantly
> imperfect in a number of other places that are not obvious if you don't
> have the originals.
..............
>
>    RM

2005\04\14@093545 by Mike Hord

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A month late and a dollar long.

Last month I spent several days stitching together
~150 hi-res topo maps into one monster 8500 pixel
square image.  I'm certain this would have worked
it out in a few minutes.

Sigh.

Mike H.

2005\04\14@104433 by ThePicMan

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At 08.35 2005.04.14 -0500, you wrote:
>A month late and a dollar long.
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>Last month I spent several days stitching together
>~150 hi-res topo maps into one monster 8500 pixel
>square image.  I'm certain this would have worked
>it out in a few minutes.

Was it for the Huygens mission maybe? ;P


2005\04\14@114234 by Mike Hord

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> >A month late and a dollar long.
> >
> >Last month I spent several days stitching together
> >~150 hi-res topo maps into one monster 8500 pixel
> >square image.  I'm certain this would have worked
> >it out in a few minutes.
>
> Was it for the Huygens mission maybe? ;P

No, decidely more terrestrial.  The Boundary Waters
Canoe Area in Superior National Forest.

A number of good map companies exist, but the maps
provided by the USGS online are of a greater resolution.

The result was a 14.5 MB beast which is quite huge.

I should be able to crop it down pretty neatly to the
areas of interest to me on this trip.  Although the more
that I think about it, a waterproof Fisher map might be
the better way to go, anyway.

Mike H.

2005\04\14@171514 by Howard Winter

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Russell,

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:55:16 +1200, Russell McMahon
wrote:

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> The two failures;
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> xxxxxxxxxxum.org.uk - - [14/Apr/2005:22:49:23 +1200]
"GET
> /temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg HTTP/1.1" 206 417025

That would be me - first time I tried it locked up for
no apparent reason - trying again worked OK.

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2005\04\14@185048 by liam .

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I'm getting errors whenever I try to get
http://others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg.

"Cannot find server".

"The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site
might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to
adjust your browser settings."

Liaaam

2005\04\14@190349 by Russell McMahon

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> Surprised the software couldn't attach the top rail of the
> observation platform. What year was that Russell?

June 2003
I missed out the railing wherever possible when taking the photos.
There was a small piece at far left and it is a smudge in the final
image if you know where to look.



           RM

2005\04\14@202029 by David Minkler

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Russell,

Russell McMahon wrote:

> About 1 mile / 1.6 km across.
> Far steeper and deeper than may seem in photo.

Yes, much larger than it looks in the photo.  I was there in about 1970
and hiked down to the drilling rig in the center.  Went back about 1984
and by then they had stopped allowing non employees to climb down in.  
Apparently some lady tried it in heels and their insurance company said
'no more'.  Have they begun allowing people back down since then?  It
seemed to me that a stairway wouldn't have been that hard to install.

No trouble downloading it but had to use something other than my browser
to view it.

Thanks,
Dave


2005\04\14@214609 by Russell McMahon

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> I'm getting errors whenever I try to get
> others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg.
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> "Cannot find server".

Try once more.
Server has been rebooted and people are downloading it OK.
Latest about 15 minutes ago.


       RM


2005\04\15@054140 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> > I'm getting errors whenever I try to get
> > others.servebeer.com/temp/MeteorCraterPanorama.jpg.
> >
> > "Cannot find server".
>
> Try once more.
> Server has been rebooted and people are downloading it OK.
> Latest about 15 minutes ago.

I still get 'done' after half a second, I see nothing (Firefox).

Wouter van Ooijen

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2005\04\15@081521 by Aaron

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>>Try once more.
>>Server has been rebooted and people are downloading it OK.
>>Latest about 15 minutes ago.
>>    
>>
>
>I still get 'done' after half a second, I see nothing (Firefox).
>
>Wouter van Ooijen
>  
>
I downloaded it OK yesterday with Firefox.

Aaron

2005\04\16@025147 by Daniel Dourneau

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While on the subject of panoramic pictures, just look at that!
http://www.gigapxl.org/
Anyone willing to cart that gear on a hiking trip?


At 15:00 14/04/2005, you wrote:
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2005\04\18@071606 by Russell McMahon

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Some more panoramas using Autostitch if anyone interested at

       http://others.servebeer.com/panoramas

NZ shots only. Aim is to demonstrate the tool at work - photos are
secondary. Some are LARGE. Try a small one first to see if download
speed suits you.

MUST be viewed at greater than full screen to be useful. Zoom to about
full height and then pan left/right.

Foodhall has the same people appearing in multiple shots (my wife /
daughter / friend). Church interior shows how useful panorama can be
for fisheye type interior shots - and limitations. Rendering of this
image using full size 5MP image input was over an hour on Celeron
1800. Much faster at lower image sizes.

Marvellous free (so far) Autostitch here

       http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html

I did an interesting 360 degree panorama in a friends lounge with 4
children as willing participants. Photo NOT available on web. For each
photo I pointed to where I wanted the children to be and they arranged
themselves casually in the general area - sat on chairs, floor, steps,
leaned on walls etc. Resultant panorama has 40+ children in the room.
Numerous ghosts too. These can be reduced by cropping source photos so
areas where figures are and aren't don't appear in adjacent shots.



       RM

2005\04\18@072918 by R. I. Nelson

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Russell McMahon wrote:

> Some more panoramas using Autostitch if anyone interested at
>
>        http://others.servebeer.com/panoramas
>
> NZ shots only. Aim is to demonstrate the tool at work - photos are
> secondary. Some are LARGE. Try a small one first to see if download
> speed suits you.
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I noticed on the church image how people on the edge of the  individual
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2005\04\18@080006 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Foodhall has the same people appearing in multiple shots
>(my wife / daughter / friend).

Very well done Russell. Especially as the instances on the left have them
the two sides of the pillar.

2005\04\18@080530 by Russell McMahon

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> I noticed on the church image how people on the edge of the
> individual
> image who move become transparent if  that is a good term.

Yes - "ghosts".
The program sees basically identical scenes in two shots but with
minor differences caused by movement. It has to decide how to meld
these dissimilarities. Sometimes it duplicates things (Meteor Crater
marker posts) or removes them  (Lounge - picture not available).
Algorithms would be interesting.



       RM

2005\04\18@085709 by Russell McMahon

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> >Foodhall has the same people appearing in multiple shots
>>(my wife / daughter / friend).
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> Very well done Russell. Especially as the instances on the left have
> them
> the two sides of the pillar.

Did you note the traditional bunny ears - 3rd group from left (I
didn't at the time).
My daughter is cooperatively hamming it up with different poses in
each group. She's a natural at getting into the spirit of such things.


       RM

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Along this line of discussion:

I have an old friend whos brother was involved in programming video
images for weather so that the out put from 10 or more weather radar
sites would all show up on one screen.  They worked on it for several
years to get it perfected he said.  This was back in the days when a 286
12 Mhz home computer was the fastest.  Imagine what that program cost.

Now they have this that is available for a free down load.

Bob

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2005\04\18@114923 by Bradley Ferguson

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On 4/18/05, Russell McMahon <.....apptechKILLspamspam.....paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Some more panoramas using Autostitch if anyone interested at
>
>         http://others.servebeer.com/panoramas

I want to eat in that "food hall."

And, I can't believe you'd post a picture of your daughter in thongs!

Bradley
(Let's see who I can lasso with that comment...)

2005\04\18@180249 by Russell McMahon

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>> Some more panoramas using Autostitch if anyone interested at

>>         http://others.servebeer.com/panoramas

> I want to eat in that "food hall."

That's a standrad name here for areas where all the shops sell only
food. I take it the name isn't used wherever you are.

> And, I can't believe you'd post a picture of your daughter in
> thongs!

Pass.


       RM


2005\04\18@194621 by William Chops Westfield

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On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Russell McMahon wrote:

>> I want to eat in that "food hall."
>
> That's a standrad name here for areas where all the shops sell only
> food. I take it the name isn't used wherever you are.
>
Usually "food court" around here.  But perhaps the point is that your
picture looks a lot nicer than the similar areas around here, which
tend to be collections of assorted fast food and school-cafeteria class
furniture...

BillW

2005\04\19@105229 by Bradley Ferguson

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On 4/18/05, William Chops Westfield <EraseMEwestfwspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmac.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Russell McMahon wrote:
>
> >> I want to eat in that "food hall."
> >
> > That's a standrad name here for areas where all the shops sell only
> > food. I take it the name isn't used wherever you are.
> >
> Usually "food court" around here.  But perhaps the point is that your
> picture looks a lot nicer than the similar areas around here, which
> tend to be collections of assorted fast food and school-cafeteria class
> furniture...

That was the point.  Thai, Kabobs... and I've never seen sushi in a
food court.  McDonald's and their ilk is the most common.  I quoted
"food hall" primarily because that was the name of the panorama file
and only partially because the term isn't used in my part of the
world.

Bradley

2005\04\19@194044 by Russell McMahon

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> That was the point.  Thai, Kabobs... and I've never seen sushi in a
> food court.  McDonald's and their ilk is the most common.  

Come on over. We can always use more tourists ;-)
And it's still cheaper than the US.

       RM

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