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2008\04\28@222837 by James Newton

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A few of you may have noticed that piclist.com was down for a few hours this
am.

Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that
will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN NO
WAY affects the list itself as it is hosted by MIT (thank you Jory and our
anonymous sponsor at MIT).

At about 8:30PST my web server rebooted for no apparent reason, then came up
to a RAID array controller error screen saying that the RAID 1 set was off
line. A heart attack later, it was found that one of the drives had failed,
but the other was still reported as ok. After a comedy of errors which
included: Pulling the wrong drive, forgetting that I had a spare drive and
trying to purchase one locally (every computer store in a 5 mile radius was
CLOSED on Monday at 9:30 am!), remembering the spare drive, wondering why it
still wouldn't rebuild, finding the documentation for the controller that
says it requires two IDENTICAL drives (it doesn't), tracking down an
identical MAX6L040J2 on the net, ordering it and paying for overnight AM
delivery before figuring out that I had pulled the good drive from the
original array and that the spare I had would work just fine (the AM
delivery is costing me more than the drive), starting the rebuild only to
have it error out due to some error on the GOOD drive (!), eventually I gave
up and just booted it on the one drive so I could update my backup from
Friday.

As of now, it's just up and running on the one drive. I'm not going to
chkdsk it until I can image the remaining good (?) drive. I have a pretty
good backup, including ALL the data, but not a drive image of the system. So
if it fails, we will be down for a few days while I try to rebuild it. Given
that the system is running Windows NT 4.0 on a PIII 800 and the drives,
power supply, and processor are more than 6 years old, it's well past time
to upgrade or move to a hosted service.

I think the problem may be the power supply as it wouldn't boot on the good
drive when the spare was still in the box even without the data cable
attached. Mother board monitor shows the voltages as rock steady, but that
wouldn't catch spikes or other noise.

I've opened a minimal account at godaddy just to see what can be done with a
shared host: I'll upgrade the account as I run into roadblocks. Piclist.org
will be pointed there sometime soon. Does anyone else host at godaddy? Do
they host DNS or do I have to keep my register.com account?

It would be really nice to be able to image the drive before I try to chkdsk
it and rebuild the array again tomorrow or Thursday, but I'll be darned if I
can find a program that will run on NT 4.0. All the ones I can find are XP
and higher. If anyone has an old copy of Ghost pre 2003 they don't mind
donating, I would really appreciate it.

One way or the other, the site will continue, but there may be some down
time while I build a new box or while I figure out how to migrate things to
a host.

James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin
spam_OUTjamesnewtonTakeThisOuTspampiclist.com  1-619-652-0593 phone
http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786
PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com


2008\04\28@225426 by Rolf

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Hi James.

I know this is a lousy time for you (and your machine....), but this is
the sort of time when Linux really is your friend (I don't normally play
the 'I told you so' game).

There is a wonderful command called 'dd' that does just what you want...
download the ubuntu live CD from the regular place. Boot up your ol'
machine with the live CD, (after installing a new drive for the
image....). Use the linux 'fdisk' command to create a partition on the
new disk slightly larger than the partition on the old disk that you are
about to clone.

Write down the device names, make sure you get them right, then do
something like:
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1M

I recommend you get some local linux help the first time through in case
you get the source/destination disks wrong.... you need to know what
your drives are enumerated as... don't just use the command above, it is
likely wrong.... ;-)

Rolf

James Newton wrote:
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2008\04\28@231950 by Sergey Dryga

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James Newton <jamesnewton <at> massmind.org> writes:

>
> A few of you may have noticed that piclist.com was down for a few hours this
> am.
>
> Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that
> will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
> be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN NO
> WAY affects the list itself as it is hosted by MIT (thank you Jory and our
> anonymous sponsor at MIT).

<SNIP>

> One way or the other, the site will continue, but there may be some down
> time while I build a new box or while I figure out how to migrate things to
> a host.
>
> James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin
> jamesnewton <at> piclist.com  1-619-652-0593 phone
> http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786
> PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com
>
James,
sorry to hear about the problems.  I do not have the program you need, but there
maybe a solution.  
1. You can boot the system using live Linux CD and copy old disk to a new one
using something like:
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
this should copy hda drive to hdb.  There are other programs under linux that
can do that too.
2. When you install a new drive, use utility provided by drive manufacturer to
copy disk image to new drive.  This is done before OS is booted.  I think that
RAID can do that too.

For the hosting I use http://www.lunarpages.com - never had a problem.  They take care
of registration and DNS entries.  Another alternative is amazon.com,- they have
new virtual servers that are spread over multiple machines.  I have not used it
yet, but idea is interesting.

Sergey

2008\04\28@233908 by Herbert Graf

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On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:28 -0700, James Newton wrote:
> A few of you may have noticed that piclist.com was down for a few hours this
> am.
>
> Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that
> will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
> be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN NO
> WAY affects the list itself as it is hosted by MIT (thank you Jory and our
> anonymous sponsor at MIT).

If you have a copy of linux around, dd is perfect for this sort of
thing:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb

That's it. It'll copy, sector by sector, everything on drive /dev/hda to
drive /dev/hdb. It's not the fastest (takes about 30 second/gig when I
run it) but it sure is easy!

TTYL

2008\04\29@005622 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 4/29/08, Herbert Graf <.....mailinglist4KILLspamspam.....farcite.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:28 -0700, James Newton wrote:
> > A few of you may have noticed that piclist.com was down for a few hours this
> > am.
> >
> > Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that
> > will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
> > be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN NO
> > WAY affects the list itself as it is hosted by MIT (thank you Jory and our
> > anonymous sponsor at MIT).
>
> If you have a copy of linux around, dd is perfect for this sort of
> thing:
>
> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
>
> That's it. It'll copy, sector by sector, everything on drive /dev/hda to
> drive /dev/hdb. It's not the fastest (takes about 30 second/gig when I
> run it) but it sure is easy!
>

dd for Windows:
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

It should work for Windows NT4. But I have only used it
under XP. I actually have never really used Windows NT
(3.x or 4) and Windows 3.x.

Xiaofan

2008\04\29@013838 by Vitaliy

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Sergey Dryga wrote:
> For the hosting I use http://www.lunarpages.com - never had a problem.  They take
> care
> of registration and DNS entries.  Another alternative is amazon.com,- they
> have
> new virtual servers that are spread over multiple machines.  I have not
> used it
> yet, but idea is interesting.

I have hosted my site on godaddy.com in the past, and am hosting on
lunarpages.com now. Godaddy is the best place to get domains, but their
hosting kind of sucks, they seem to want to put you in a box, and the specs
weren't great either. Lunarpages gives you more for your money, and more
control over your website.

To be fair, I should mention that we did run into a serious problem with
Lunarpages with our company website -- they shut it down several times
apparently because their servers couldn't handle the load, and finally gave
us 72 hours to find another host (our webmaster told me it was complete BS,
and I have good reasons to believe him).

I'll take a look at home, to see if I can find an old copy of Norton Ghost.

Vitaliy

2008\04\29@020418 by Harold Hallikainen

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>
> If you have a copy of linux around, dd is perfect for this sort of
> thing:
>
> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
>
> That's it. It'll copy, sector by sector, everything on drive /dev/hda to
> drive /dev/hdb. It's not the fastest (takes about 30 second/gig when I
> run it) but it sure is easy!
>

I use Ghost For Linux, which is distributed as a self booting ISO so you
can burn your own CD. Included in the package is a script to zero all
unused sectors. You can then do a sector by sector image save. I use an
external USB hard drive. You can do compression during the image save so
those zeroed sectors take very little room.

Harold

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2008\04\29@045240 by peter green

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> Write down the device names, make sure you get them right, then do
> something like:
> dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1M
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>  

While dd can sometimes be used for imaging it sounds like there are disk
problems with the "good" drive (this is unfortunately a fairly common
problem when it comes to raid rebuild time). So such a basic tool is
probablly not a good choice.


You could try partimage from a linux livecd which will at least copy
only the used sections of the drive but i'm not sure if it has an option
to continue in the face of errors or not.

2008\04\29@055022 by Jake Anderson

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These things come in 3's
well 4's

I just got home after replacing 3 failing drives at a clients place, 2x
in a raid array and one in a desktop.

You don't want to use the standard DD as it barfs when you have a disk
error.
You can manually futz around with it to try and recover it or...
Use the thing what saved my bacon this day AKA gnu dd recovery.

In the following sda and sdb are the failed disks from the raid array,
sdc is the good disk that you want to stick your stuff on.

Easiest way to do it is boot off an ubuntu live CD.
then open a terminal

*sudo su   (everything your doing is adminy anyway so no point typing
sudo 400 times)
apt-get install gddrescue
fdisk -l
*
This will list the disks/partitions available in your system and their
sizes.
once you have determined from there what your source and destination
drives are

*ddrescue -v /dev/sda /dev/sdc logfile.log*

syntax for that is
ddrescue [options] infile outfile [logfile]

I'd recommend running the rescue outside of the raid controller.
IE run it on another computer or plug it into the mbo rather than the
raid controller, otherwise your probably going to "unraid" the disk by
erasing all the magic mojo the controller puts on there to keep track of
it. 40GB drives copied in about 20-30 minutes or so.

Assuming that the bad blocks haven't changed you can stick the other
drive in and merge the two drives together by running it again
*ddrescue -v /dev/sdb /dev/sdc logfile.log
*Note that to do this you either need to save logfile.log on a usb stick
(or whatever) or have all the drives plugged into the system at the same
time as you loose the file system when you reboot.


If you then reboot and plug your disk into the raid controller you can
use gparted to resize the ntfs partition to the full size of your new disks.

Now to login to my clients server and start the rebuild while nobody's
using it ;->

Any problems let me know and we can arrange a phone call or something,
I'm at GMT +10 and available from 9:00AM till about midnight our time.


additional resources
www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#head-2720985ba3c025c9e3f9e487f7cfa7daf03dab24


James Newton wrote:
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2008\04\29@081749 by Martin

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I noticed, I was looking for some code.
I have a server you can have, the problem is that it's in Watertown, NY
and I'm in Boston, MA and you're somewhere else far away. Has a 3ware
RAID care, Opteron processor, some RAM..
-
Martin

James Newton wrote:
> A few of you may have noticed that piclist.com was down for a few hours this
> am.

2008\04\29@090433 by alan smith

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might also consider http://www.1and1.com as a hosting site, never had a problem with them.

Vitaliy <spamspamspam_OUTmaksimov.org> wrote:  Sergey Dryga wrote:
> For the hosting I use http://www.lunarpages.com - never had a problem. They take
> care
> of registration and DNS entries. Another alternative is amazon.com,- they
> have
> new virtual servers that are spread over multiple machines. I have not
> used it
> yet, but idea is interesting.

I have hosted my site on godaddy.com in the past, and am hosting on
lunarpages.com now. Godaddy is the best place to get domains, but their
hosting kind of sucks, they seem to want to put you in a box, and the specs
weren't great either. Lunarpages gives you more for your money, and more
control over your website.

To be fair, I should mention that we did run into a serious problem with
Lunarpages with our company website -- they shut it down several times
apparently because their servers couldn't handle the load, and finally gave
us 72 hours to find another host (our webmaster told me it was complete BS,
and I have good reasons to believe him).

I'll take a look at home, to see if I can find an old copy of Norton Ghost.

Vitaliy

2008\04\29@123645 by James Newton

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I very much appreciate all the advice on good hosting site, but I only do
M$, IIS, ASP/VBS and so far all the hosts recommended only do *nix, apache,
PHP, etc... I'm sure I'm in the wrong and should get with the program,
switch sides and turn away for the dark side, etc... but I've had nothing
but bad experiences with *nix (I know, I'm the only one) and all my scripts
(there are a LOT) are in ASP/VBS (which means I'm not a REAL web programmer)
and so on. Please don't go on about it? No amount of talking is going to
make me  switch. Thanks in advance.

If there is a good M$, IIS host out there, I would love to hear about it.

--
James.

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2008\04\29@130027 by Ariel Rocholl

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I've using eHostPros.com for a few years, not high volume, but
experience so far is very good. I use Linux hosting (just because it
is cheaper) but they have Windows hosting as well for a plus. I would
give them a try, serious people, very competitive price and everything
is hosted and supported from the US.

2008/4/29 James Newton <@spam@jamesnewtonKILLspamspammassmind.org>:
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2008\04\29@153427 by Nate Duehr

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James Newton wrote:

> Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that
> will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
> be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN NO
> WAY affects the list itself as it is hosted by MIT (thank you Jory and our
> anonymous sponsor at MIT).

I would think that Acronis TrueImage would handle that... but who knows?

http://www.acronis.com/

It's the best "imaging" software for Winderz machines I've used.  Far
better than Norton Ghost, and more often than not "smart" enough to fix
things on its own, when partitioning has gone "wonky" or is otherwise
messed up.

Nate

2008\04\29@192945 by Mark Huffstutter

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      I too moved to Acronis after bad experiences with "The Ghost".
Unfortunately, True Image won't work under NT, but I recently used another
of their products called "Migrate Easy" to repair an NT system. It is pretty
much TrueImage without some extra bells and whistles. Worked great for Me.

Not connected with Acronis, blah blah...

Mark



On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:36:02 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote
> James Newton wrote:
>
> > Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program
that
> > will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the rebuild. The site may
> > be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the other. This IN
NO
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2008\04\29@213544 by Sergey Dryga

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James Newton <jamesnewton <at> massmind.org> writes:
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> If there is a good M$, IIS host out there, I would love to hear about it.
>
> --
> James.
>

Lunarpages.com  they o both Linux and MS,
from their website:
#  .NET Framework 2.0/3.0 available!
# Windows Server 2003 Enterprise
# Microsoft SQL Desktop Engine included
# Java 2 Runtime Environment available

Sergey
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http://www.beaglerobotics.com

2008\04\30@073754 by Tony Smith

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> > Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a
> drive-imaging program
> > that will work on an NT 4.0 server? It would speed up the
> rebuild. The
> > site may be down for a while, but it will continue, one way or the
> > other. This IN NO WAY affects the list itself as it is
> hosted by MIT
> > (thank you Jory and our anonymous sponsor at MIT).
>
> I would think that Acronis TrueImage would handle that... but
> who knows?
>
> http://www.acronis.com/
>
> It's the best "imaging" software for Winderz machines I've
> used.  Far better than Norton Ghost, and more often than not
> "smart" enough to fix things on its own, when partitioning
> has gone "wonky" or is otherwise messed up.


Well, Acronis TrueImage solves the partitioning problem by not dealing with
them, it's drive --> drive, none of this new fangled partition stuff.  Works
nicely otherwise.  Doesn't work with NT anyway, IIRC.

Ghost really has gone downhill these days, typical Symantec.

Tony

2008\04\30@075552 by Derward Myrick

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James,  I second what Nate said,

Derward Myrick

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2008\04\30@083931 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tony Smith wrote:

>> I would think that Acronis TrueImage would handle that... but
>> who knows?
>>
>> http://www.acronis.com/
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>> It's the best "imaging" software for Winderz machines I've
>> used.  Far better than Norton Ghost, and more often than not
>> "smart" enough to fix things on its own, when partitioning
>> has gone "wonky" or is otherwise messed up.
>
> Well, Acronis TrueImage solves the partitioning problem by not dealing with
> them, it's drive --> drive, none of this new fangled partition stuff.  Works
> nicely otherwise.  Doesn't work with NT anyway, IIRC.

It doesn't have to work with NT -- only with NT partitions (from the
Acronis boot CD). Besides the Acronis boot CD and the Linux solutions,
there are also the various Windows-based boot CD projects with assorted
tools.

This may be helpful:
http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml

Gerhard

2008\04\30@151131 by Tony Smith

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By partitions, I meant a single drive split into multiple sections.  True
Image doesn't like those much, as I found out the other day.  You can't, for
instance, copy Drive 1 to a partition on Drive 2.  Ghost can.

And by not working with NT, I meant you can't install it there.

Tony

2008\04\30@175919 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tony Smith wrote:

>>> Well, Acronis TrueImage solves the partitioning problem by not dealing
>>> with them, it's drive --> drive, none of this new fangled partition
>>> stuff.  Works nicely otherwise.  Doesn't work with NT anyway, IIRC.
>>
>> It doesn't have to work with NT -- only with NT partitions (from the
>> Acronis boot CD). Besides the Acronis boot CD and the Linux solutions,
>> there are also the various Windows-based boot CD projects with assorted
>> tools.
>
> By partitions, I meant a single drive split into multiple sections.
> True Image doesn't like those much, as I found out the other day.  You
> can't, for instance, copy Drive 1 to a partition on Drive 2.  Ghost can.

I don't know what exactly you want to do, as there is no "naked" drive in
use in any of the common OSes -- they all partition the drive (and if it is
only one partition). True Image does handle partitions just fine, at least
the way I use it. I can copy a partition from any drive to any other drive.
The target partition must be equal or bigger than the source partition,
IIRC.

> And by not working with NT, I meant you can't install it there.

I know, but for a simple, single drive imaging that's not really that
important. No need to install it in NT; just boot it from its own CD.

Gerhard

2008\04\30@193920 by Peter van Hoof

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The version of arconis I use at my job can create a bootable disc (cd/dvd) that is
basically free of the type of operating system you are copying, the only
thing important with this is access to a machiene that you can install
acronis on to create the disc on.
YMMV though I have 1 system the bootdisc will not work on

Peter

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2008\04\30@223724 by Vitaliy

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Vitaliy wrote:
> I'll take a look at home, to see if I can find an old copy of Norton
> Ghost.

No luck, sorry. Found a copy of Norton Works 2003, but no license key.

Vitaliy

2008\04\30@223851 by Vitaliy

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James Newton wrote:
>I very much appreciate all the advice on good hosting site, but I only do
> M$, IIS, ASP/VBS and so far all the hosts recommended only do *nix, apache
> [snip]

Sergey is right, Lunarpages does have Windows hosting. Look here:

http://www.lunarpages.com/solutions.php


'[OT] PICList.com: the old girl is running on half '
2008\05\01@151827 by James Newton
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What do you guys think of machines like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180237964058

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11504_div/11504_div.HTML

 Item:    HP Compaq ProLiant DL360 G3 Rackmount Server
 Model:    DL360 <--- Click for detailed specs.
HP P/N: 322471-001
 Processor:    3.06GHz Intel Xeon Processor
 Memory:    1GB RAM
 Hard Disk Size:    2x73GB Hard Drive
 NIC:    (2) Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Adapters
 Software:    None
 Included:    Floppy Drive, CDROM Drive, Rack-Mount Rail Kit, Mouse,
Keyboard, Power Cord

eBay shows items more or less like that selling for around $500. Another
$500 for windows 2k3 web hosting edition followed by a few days / weeks /
month of pulling hair to set up a new server and I could go back to working
on new content instead of trying to save old content.

The 1U form would allow me to move it to any co-location facility (I have
kind of a sweet deal right now, they are allowing my full tower against the
rules) and even maybe get a discount.

The cheap account at godaddy sucks BTW: Multiple hassles and bugs. ZIP files
unzip to a new folder called "_ControlPanel" instead of in the current
folder. The user interface times out too quickly. Response time is horrible
and the pages serve so slowly that users would give up on it. How do they
get such high ratings for customer satifaction?

I'm probably going to try the $40 / month account for 1 month at
lunarpages.com just in case that works better. I do about 50 GB of data
transfer a month and my total content is about 3GB although it compresses
well since it is mostly text. I can get it all on 2 or 3 CD's. For the
curious that is
~5M hits / month
~1M pages / month
>150K unique visitors / month.

The most popular pages are
/techref/postbot.asp (the archive)
/techref/microchip/routines.htm
/techref/piclist/weedfreq.htm
/techref/piclist/projects.htm
/techref/io/lcd/pic.htm

--
James.

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2008\05\01@165220 by Denny Esterline

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The cheap account at godaddy sucks BTW: Multiple hassles and bugs. ZIP files
> unzip to a new folder called "_ControlPanel" instead of in the current
> folder. The user interface times out too quickly. Response time is
> horrible
> and the pages serve so slowly that users would give up on it. How do they
> get such high ratings for customer satifaction?


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That basicaly mirrors my experiance with them. I opened an account with them
a couple years ago, plans changed and I canceled it after about a month.
Right pain in the butt to cancel, and I still get the occasional "renewal"
notice
both by e-mail and postal.

I strongly reccomend Pair.com

-Denny

2008\05\01@175857 by Bob Axtell

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Denny Esterline wrote:
> <snip>
>
> The cheap account at godaddy sucks BTW: Multiple hassles and bugs. ZIP files
>  
>> unzip to a new folder called "_ControlPanel" instead of in the current
>> folder. The user interface times out too quickly. Response time is
>> horrible
>> and the pages serve so slowly that users would give up on it. How do they
>> get such high ratings for customer satifaction?
>>    
>
>  
Lie, maybe?

--BA

2008\05\01@210407 by Jake Anderson

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Personally i'd try and get something with dual core or better, it can
really improve responsiveness and as much ram as you can throw at it.

I have a dual P3 1ghz with 4Gb of ram if its of use (1RU DL360),
although the shipping could suck ass.

I wonder if some sort of distributed architecture could be made to work
for the piclist rather than having to pay for colo access.
something where http://www.piclist.com points to your server and then have
redirects to www1.piclist.com etc (for everybody except google)
If somebody goes down they get taken out of the rotation. Upside is you
could probably largley keep your existing setup and just have some wrappers.



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2008\05\02@142723 by Bob Barr

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On Thu, 1 May 2008 16:51:58 -0400, "Denny Esterline" wrote:

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>That basicaly mirrors my experiance with them. I opened an account with them
>a couple years ago, plans changed and I canceled it after about a month.
>Right pain in the butt to cancel, and I still get the occasional "renewal"
>notice
>both by e-mail and postal.
>
>I strongly reccomend Pair.com
>

I've found that hosting at http://www.BlueHost.com is about as good as it can
possibly be. For $6.95 per month (2-year signup) to $9.95 (3-month
signup), you get a huge amount of storage (1.5 Tb) and bandwidth (15
Tb) along with fantastic support. You can also add many (they say
'unlimited' but I can't be sure about that) domains to a single
account.

(No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer.)


Regards, Bob

2008\05\07@091956 by Howard Winter

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James,

Continuing my habit of replying to messages *way* after the time was right to do so...

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:28:08 -0700, James Newton wrote:

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> Short version: Does anyone have an old copy of a drive-imaging program that will work on an NT 4.0 server?

I can recommend DFSee - a disk-fettling program that can do so many things that I haven't found them all yet - and I've been using it for many years!

Among its features is a disk Cloning function (direct from one disk to another) and an Imager, which will create and restore files containing an image of a whole disk
or individual partitions.  It runs under Windows (I don't know for sure that NT is included but I'd bet folding money that it is), DOS, Linux and OS/2.  You can also
download files to create a bootable CD, or bootable floppies.  The Bootable CD would probably be your best bet to clone a disk, because then you know for sure
that nothing is in use on it.

There's a fully-functional (with nags) 30-day trial that you can download, but paying for it isn't exactly painful.  The author, Jan van Wijk, will help with any disk
problems (as long as you've paid for the software) and this often involves sending a log file generated by DFSee, and he returns a script he's custom-written to fix
whatever is wrong.

It's located here:  http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee/index.php

It's not for the faint of heart - "User Friendly" it isn't, and I would never recommend it to a naive Windows-only user who has never typed a command, but it is well
worth the time to learn how to do what you want, and when that's as simple as creating a disk clone, the learning curve is pretty trivial.

Declaring an Interest:  I don't get anything from recommending this, but I view Jan as a friend, having met him many times at OS/2 conferences in Europe and North
America - and it turns out we used to work for the same firm, albeit in different countries...  I still pay for my copies of DFSee though!  :-)

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


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