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2007\10\24@203633 by Vitaliy

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Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?

2007\10\24@211948 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 10/25/07, Vitaliy <spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTspammaksimov.org> wrote:
> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?

Switch to Gmail?

2007\10\24@213929 by Vitaliy

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> On 10/25/07, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam@spam@maksimov.org> wrote:
>> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
>
> Switch to Gmail?

Not an option. :)

2007\10\25@033739 by Dario Greggio

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:


>>Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
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> Switch to Gmail?

Yep, or NEtscape Mail too :)

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2007\10\25@034100 by Dario Greggio

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Vitaliy wrote:

>>Switch to Gmail?
>
> Not an option. :)

sorry then :)

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2007\10\25@062702 by Tony Smith

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> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
> --


'Windows Desktop Search' can do that, although it sounds like you want some
stand-alone app.  Download it off the MS website, it replaces the normal
search.  I've had it running for a while, it doesn't seem to have any bad
habits.

Tony

2007\10\25@073932 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 10/25/07, Tony Smith <ajsmithspamKILLspamrivernet.com.au> wrote:
> > Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
> > --
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>
> 'Windows Desktop Search' can do that, although it sounds like you want some
> stand-alone app.  Download it off the MS website, it replaces the normal
> search.  I've had it running for a while, it doesn't seem to have any bad
> habits.
>

Maybe you have a fast computer. Windows Desktop Search is rather
slow for my taste.

Xiaofan

2007\10\25@101106 by Jake Anderson

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Vitaliy wrote:
> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
>  
There is some link in with access and outlook (don't know about express)
you might be able to hack that up somewhat.
Or possibly use thunderbird? That can import your existing emails
(slowly) and seems to search well.

2007\10\26@101523 by Tony Smith

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> > 'Windows Desktop Search' can do that, although it sounds
> like you want
> > some stand-alone app.  Download it off the MS website, it
> replaces the
> > normal search.  I've had it running for a while, it doesn't seem to
> > have any bad habits.
> >
>
> Maybe you have a fast computer. Windows Desktop Search is
> rather slow for my taste.


When indexing or when doing lookups?

I've tried it on relatively slow PCs (500Mhz!) and it seems to be ok.  This
is with over 500 gig or so of data (mail, docs, music etc).  It only indexes
when idle, so doesn't slow down you're PC when something else is running.
The first scan is slow, of course.

And if you're lucky, you might have had it installed for you.  It seems
Microsoft sent it out as a critical update or something.  See Slashdot for
the story, not that you'll find any answers there.

Tony

2007\10\26@171452 by Nate Duehr

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Tony Smith wrote:
>>> 'Windows Desktop Search' can do that, although it sounds
>> like you want
>>> some stand-alone app.  Download it off the MS website, it
>> replaces the
>>> normal search.

Google Desktop comes to mind here too...

Nate

2007\10\26@192634 by Vitaliy

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Nate Duehr wrote:
>>>> 'Windows Desktop Search' can do that, although it sounds
>>> like you want
>>>> some stand-alone app.  Download it off the MS website, it
>>> replaces the
>>>> normal search.
>
> Google Desktop comes to mind here too...

Can it search OE emails?

2007\10\26@193659 by Vitaliy

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Jake Anderson wrote:
>> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
>>
> There is some link in with access and outlook (don't know about express)
> you might be able to hack that up somewhat.
> Or possibly use thunderbird? That can import your existing emails
> (slowly) and seems to search well.

I tried Thunderbird, and it does indeed search well. However, I cannot
easily transfer my 100+ message rules (filters) to Thunderbird, nor can I
drag the messages out of Thundebird into a folder.

Vitaliy


2007\10\26@194839 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 10/27/07, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam.....maksimov.org> wrote:
> Nate Duehr wrote:
> >>>> 'Windows Desktop Search' can do that
> >
> > Google Desktop comes to mind here too...
>
> Can it search OE emails?

Yes.
http://desktop.google.com/llepromo.html

Here are some links from Google for Outlook Express
add-on. They list Yahoo Desktop Search and Windows Desktop
search as two of the options.
http://email.about.com/od/outlookexpressaddons/PlugIns_and_AddOns_for_Outlook_Express.htm

I think Outlook Express is a decent mail client but I do not use it after
switching to Gmail. No more Outlook Express/Thunderbird/Evolution.
I used OE/Thunderbird as a newsgroup reader. Now I do not even use
them for that function. I will subscribe to that newgroup with Google
Groups and use Gmail to read the newsgroups.


Xiaofan

2007\10\26@195007 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 10/27/07, Vitaliy <EraseMEspamspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmaksimov.org> wrote:
> Jake Anderson wrote:
> >> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
> >>
> > There is some link in with access and outlook (don't know about express)
> > you might be able to hack that up somewhat.
> > Or possibly use thunderbird? That can import your existing emails
> > (slowly) and seems to search well.
>
> I tried Thunderbird, and it does indeed search well. However, I cannot
> easily transfer my 100+ message rules (filters) to Thunderbird, nor can I
> drag the messages out of Thundebird into a folder.

How about Outlook? I like Outlook as a email clinet than Outlook
Express for the added functionality. I think search works well within
Outlook. It can easily import your rules.

Xiaofan

2007\10\27@021133 by Nate Duehr

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On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Vitaliy wrote:

> Jake Anderson wrote:
>>> Can someone recommend a search utility for Outlook Express?
>>>
>> There is some link in with access and outlook (don't know about  
>> express)
>> you might be able to hack that up somewhat.
>> Or possibly use thunderbird? That can import your existing emails
>> (slowly) and seems to search well.
>
> I tried Thunderbird, and it does indeed search well. However, I cannot
> easily transfer my 100+ message rules (filters) to Thunderbird, nor  
> can I
> drag the messages out of Thundebird into a folder.


This is where using IMAP and leaving all the mail on the server comes  
in REALLY handy.  When you want to change clients, you do... and  
everything is there, in the same folder structure you left it in from  
the previous mail client...

And if you don't like client #2, you try client #3...

And if you don't like your mail service provider you drag and drop all  
of your mail including folder structure from one server to the other...

POP3 is outdated technology, really -- once you've gotten used to  
using only IMAP-capable servers.

Gmail now supports IMAP, by the way!  Whoo hoo!

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2007\10\28@232420 by Vitaliy

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> How about Outlook? I like Outlook as a email clinet than Outlook
> Express for the added functionality. I think search works well within
> Outlook. It can easily import your rules.

That is a good suggestion, thank you. I will give it a try.

Vitaliy

2007\10\28@232719 by Vitaliy

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Nate Duehr wrote:
> This is where using IMAP and leaving all the mail on the server comes
> in REALLY handy.  When you want to change clients, you do... and
> everything is there, in the same folder structure you left it in from
> the previous mail client...
>
> And if you don't like client #2, you try client #3...
>
> And if you don't like your mail service provider you drag and drop all
> of your mail including folder structure from one server to the other...
>
> POP3 is outdated technology, really -- once you've gotten used to
> using only IMAP-capable servers.

Yeah, I know, I live in the stone age. ;)

The problem with keeping ALL my mail on the server, is that I've got around
7Gb of messages in OE. I just keep migrating the old messages from one
machine to the next.

Vitaliy

2007\10\29@020634 by Jake Anderson

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Vitaliy wrote:
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I keep all my email on my server in DBMail, about 4gb worth.
On a new machine it takes about 10 minutes to fetch all the headers for
all the folders.
Also means i have all my emails on my "desktop" machine and on my
development machine (and anywhere i want through webmail).
Server side sorting (sieve) means that a particular client doesn't have
to pickup and sort the emails either.

2007\10\29@022435 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 10/29/07, Vitaliy <@spam@spamKILLspamspammaksimov.org> wrote:
> Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > How about Outlook? I like Outlook as a email clinet than Outlook
> > Express for the added functionality. I think search works well within
> > Outlook. It can easily import your rules.
>
> That is a good suggestion, thank you. I will give it a try.
>

It is very easy to archive in Outlook as well. You can easily use
multiple pst files and it will keep all your things intact. All my
old emails are still in pst format (from 19997 to 2006, several GB
as well)  even though I am thinking of convert it to other format
as well so that Linux can understand them.

Gmail is now my preferred email client for mailing list. But I
use Yahoo email for my personal email and Hotmail to deal
with Microsoft. I have other Yahoo/Hotmail account to collect
assort/junk emails and I only check them once a week or
two weeks just to maintain the account.

And I do not use my work email for any mailing list or personal
email.

Xiaofan

2007\10\29@024108 by Nate Duehr

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On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Vitaliy wrote:

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I'm not that far from that...

durango:/home/nate/Maildir$ du -sh .
4.0G        .

And I did a lot of cleaning this year.  :-)

To do a complete sync of a new mail client via 100 Mb/s Ethernet only  
takes a few minutes, including attachments.  I do full syncronization  
only to the laptop and one desktop machine as a "poor man's" maildir  
backup.

The rest of the IMAP clients will happily just pull down all the  
headers and wait for you to click on a specific piece of mail before  
it grabs the content of the message...

And if you have full control of the server and can add server-side  
delivery-time folder filtering?  Ohh, that's nice... new messages from  
PIC-List for example, go straight into the MIT-PIC-List folder on the  
IMAP server, and never touch the inbox of any client.  But all clients  
show "new mail" in the folder when it arrives.

Very nice.

Try it out sometime if you get the chance... it'll spoil you so badly  
with all its abilities, you'll never want to go back to POP3.

I reloaded my wife's iBook today with Leopard, due to some wireless  
driver problems it was having after an "upgrade" installation from  
Panther (10.3) to Leopard (10.5) [I knew I shouldn't have done that!],  
and setting up her Mail was so easy... point at the server, and all  
her folders and stored/saved mail are instantly "back"... on a brand  
new, freshly installed client.  So nice.

So far, very impressed with Leopard -- nice incremental changes, a few  
things I'll have to get used to, and generally -- the usual Apple  
"nice working GUI, well integrated" experience -- all with the Unix  
shell still there when needed for horsepower.

I wish more tools for uC dev were released for/on the Mac platform.  
XP is pretty stable/works pretty well, but the MacBook still wins as  
it does it faster and with slightly more stability and less fuss to  
set it up in the first place.

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