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2006\08\31@114432 by William Chops Westfield

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On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
> rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
> a high quality of life...

So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
take a survey.

1) How do you commute to work?
2) How far?
3) How long does it take in each direction?
4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
   transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

So for me:
1) commute by car, single occupant, 3 days a week. telecommute rest.
2) about 20 miles each direction.
3) I generally drive TO work after the morning rush is over,
   and it takes about 20 to 25 minutes.  Driving home catches
   the end of the evening rush hour, and usually takes 30 to 40.
4) I COULD walk to the train station, take train to lightrail
   station, take lightrail to near work, and walk the remaining
   distance.  This would take about an hour in that direction,
   and somewhat longer to ensure making connections in the
   reverse direction.  It's become less attractive since the
   train station nearest my house was closed, making that initial
   walk close to 2 miles.

BillW

2006\08\31@121302 by David VanHorn

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> 1) How do you commute to work?


Feet

2) How far?


Feet

3) How long does it take in each direction?


Seconds

4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?


That would be silly, for me.

Sometimes my job does make up for it, with drives of 1800 miles or so, but
those are not more frequent than once a month, and again public transport
(even flying) isn't applicable.
The back half of the expedition is full of equipment.  Packing and unpacking
that stuff for air travel on each end would cost more than the drive itself.

2006\08\31@121843 by Mike Hord

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> 1) How do you commute to work?

Car, single occupant.  :-(  Currently investigating mixing bike and
bus, but my bike has seen better days.

Of course, this comes on the heels of two+ years of walking to work every day...

> 2) How far?

About five miles.  I could lie and say that I intended it to be that
way, but it was just luck.  I chose to live fairly close to the heart
of town (Minneapolis) because I wanted to be able to walk for errands,
food, etc., and because I knew it'd put me in a nice central location
whereever I had to work.  It just turned out to be pretty close.

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

Depends heavily on the route I take, weather, phases of the moon, time
I leave, etc.  I get antsy if it takes more than 10 minutes either
way, but it has been known to exceed 30 on rainy days and I shudder to
think what a good snowstorm will do.  Getting out of my neighborhood
isn't easy on the best of days, and the inconvenient location of a
number of lakes limits my route choices pretty severely.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

The bus ride itself would take about 25 minutes (this according to
their website).  Walking time would probably close to double that.
I'm looking into using my bike for a portion of that, or all of it; a
couple of five or six mile bike rides each day wouldn't do me any
harm.  I have to find an acceptable route, however; if I follow the
road route I take, it would run me either through a fairly unsavory
neighborhood OR across/along a number of VERY busy roads.  I think
there is a fairly pastoral bike trail which will cover some portion of
the trip; I just need to figure it out.

I suspect I fall into the great majority in my feelings on public
transportation:  I want the convenience of a car (i.e., door-to-door
service, departing on my schedule, no transfers, no human interaction)
with the benefits of a bus (I don't have to pay attention to what I'm
doing, pay insurance/car payment/gas/maintanence, I can feel warm and
fuzzy for saving the environment).  In the end, it's the half-mile
walk from the bus to my office that is off-putting:  it's okay in good
weather, but come mid-January, I'm not walking through ankle to knee
deep snow in subzero temps for that half-mile.

Mike H.

2006\08\31@122416 by Rolf

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William Chops Westfield wrote:
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1) commute by car. 2 occupants (I carpool with a work colleague), 4 days
per week, work at home on Tuesdays.
2) 60.2km each direction (about 55km of straight highway).
3) I leave home at about 6:10 am. Pick up partner at 6:20. At desk
before 7am. Leave work at 3pm. Home before 4.
4) I have 2 rail stations within walking distance (one is about 1.5km
from home - 800m as crow flies GPS). Journey is about 1hr on train with
about 20min walk, or 25minute bus ride (which costs additional) from "at
work" station to actual office. Makes whole trip (including time
required to get to station 5min early to avoid missing train...) about
1hr40min.

Taking cost in to account as well, 1 week of commute is $30 canadian in
fuel (toyota corolla does 6l/100km) per week + parking @ $25 per week.
Carpool partner pays $35 per week. Equivalent rail tickets would be $60
per week. In essence, my commute costs me the
wear-and-tear/insurance/maintenance on the car only, I save about 1
working day (8 hours) per week in time not spent on trains. I am also
not restricted to train schedule (one-way service to city in morning - 3
trains, and one way service return in evening - 3 trains).

Not all that bad considering how far I live from office.

Rolf

2006\08\31@124543 by Thomas C. Sefranek

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Subject: Re: [OT] On Commuting, and a survey...

So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
take a survey.

1) How do you commute to work?

Truck, Motorcycle, bike (but not lately, knee replacement issues.)

2) How far?

5.6 miles

3) How long does it take in each direction?

Depends on mode, truck = 10 minutes, Motorcycle = 8 minutes, Bike = 30
minutes.

4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
   transportation alternative?

No

 How long would THAT take?

BillW

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2006\08\31@124625 by Larry G. Nelson Sr.

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> 1) How do you commute to work?
> 2) How far?
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
>
> So for me:
> 1) commute by car, single occupant, 5 days a week.
> 2) about 100 miles each direction. I now cheat. I rent a room 4 miles from job site. I do long commute monday am or Sunday PM to site and home Friday pm before rush hour.
> 3) long commute 2 hrs without weather or traffic problems, short commute 6 min to 10 min.
> 4) No public transportation available. The room cost less than the gas and I get 4 hours of my life back 4 days a week. Not ideal for family but with 2 in college (studying engineering) the money saved helps pay tuition and other costs. I can do extra consulting from anywhere so have laptop will travel.
Larry

2006\08\31@125523 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 8/31/06, William Chops Westfield <.....westfwKILLspamspam.....mac.com> wrote:

> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

In Singapore by bus. The public transportation (bus and train)
in Singapore is world-class. A normal car costs a fortune in
Singapore, almost 1/3 the price of a flat (getting slightly cheaper
now but you pay more for other things) and you need to pay the
government hefty money called  COE (Certificate of Entitlement)
every 10 years.

http://www.expatsingapore.com/once/cost.shtml

> 2) How far?

About 32km (20miles).

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

About 40minutes in both direction including 10 minutes walk to the
bus station and 5 minutes walk to the office floor. In the
afternoon, it might be 5 minutes longer due to the traffic.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

I use public transportation in Singapore. Can't afford a car
right now and do not see a need anyway.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\08\31@125757 by David VanHorn

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Back in Hawaii, I did commute by bus to work.

Roughly a 20 mile commute, a 90 minute bus ride, IF the buses actually
stopped to pick you up. An hour's wait for the next one.  Buses were
routinely crowded way beyond any safe limits, and you got to deal with
interesting things like the guy with the 5 gal bucket of rotting seaweed.

Going home was more fun. There were several routes that went along the same
path for most of the way, so my route (being the longest) was the de-facto
pick up for everyone who missed their desired bus, making it overcrowded
even on the best days.  It was worth it to me, to grab another bus in to the
main station at Ala Moana, and then ride the bus from there, just to be
assured of A:getting on, and B: having a seat.

On the plus side, I got a lot of reading done, and after a while, I built up
a breifcase containing a protoboard, parts, 12V solder iron, and 2 channel
battery powered scope.
A lot more pleasant to sit next to, than the guy with the bucket of
seaweed..

2006\08\31@125935 by Josh Koffman

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> 1) How do you commute to work?

I walk to the subway station, take the subway, then the a bus.

> 2) How far?

According to Google Maps, it's about 8.6km or 5.35 miles

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

It takes just about a half an hour. This is assuming I catch the bus
at the right time - it only comes once every 15 mins.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

Since I DO take public transportation, I'll flip the question around.
If I drove to work I'd probably save about 5-10 minutes, however I
wouldn't get to read the paper.

Josh
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2006\08\31@130742 by Shawn Tan

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> 1) How do you commute to work?

cycle..

> 2) How far?

hmm.. about 2.2km..

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

around 15 mins..

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?

yes.. inconvenient though..

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2006\08\31@130954 by Mario Mendes Jr.

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1) How do you commute to work?
car

2) How far?
5 miles

3) How long does it take in each direction?
morning: 20 minutes including my coffee stop
evening: 20 to 30 minutes depending on what time I live

4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public transportation
alternative?  How long would THAT take?
a) yes and no.  Yes because I could take the bus that takes me from Bedford
all the way to Cambridge and from there take another bus all the way back to
Burlington, rediculous since burlington is just the next town over. This would
probably be close 2 hours each way (to/from work), so no, there is no
alternative public transportation.

For the most part, plublic transportation (from what I've experienced of the
times I did need to use it) in the greater Boston area is pretty much a star
configuration, you can take a bus/train from particular points outside of
boston into boston and back, but there is very little public transportation
between 2 points that are both outside of town.

-Mario

2006\08\31@131557 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> 1) How do you commute to work?

feet (home office) or car (school)

> 2) How far?

10m / 30 km

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

10 seconds / 15..30 minutes

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

no in-house public transportation available / train+bus, 30..45 minutes.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\08\31@133712 by M. Adam Davis

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1) How do you commute to work?
2) How far?
The short route is 10.5 miles.  I typically take the freeway which
makes it closer to 15 miles.  Occasionally I'll bicycle there and
back, taking different 10.5 or 13.5 mile routes.

3) How long does it take in each direction?
20-30 minutes by car, 30-50 minutes by bike

4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
The last time I looked into it, the bus takes about 2 hours (minimum)
and not at a time convenient to when I need to get here and leave from
here.

-Adam


On 8/31/06, William Chops Westfield <EraseMEwestfwspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmac.com> wrote:
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2006\08\31@140512 by James Newtons Massmind

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> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  
> We have a relatively international community here, and I'd
> like to take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

http://techref.massmind.org/techref/member/JMN-EFP-786/MyLovelyCommute.htm

'92 Honda Civic.  <$4000 total purchase price, 31 MPG on low octane gas.
This is the least environmentally damaging option available to me.

Single occupant. My entry has been listed on the "Commuter computer" for
many moons with no match.

4 days a week, 10 hour days. I took a small pay cut to not have to commute
Wednesdays.

> 2) How far?

~30 miles one way, 60 miles round trip

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

~25 minutes.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

No. The riverside transit and san diego systems do not meet up.

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I would do that. Bicycle to the station, lock up the bike, etc...

>
> BillW
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2006\08\31@141811 by Aidan Keady

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> > 1) How do you commute to work?


Car - just me.

> 2) How far?


35 miles each way - when some roadworks finish and a road reopens
(supposedly on 1st Sept.), it'll be down to 33.5 miles again.

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?


Approx. 1 hour -  49 mins. is the fastest I've managed, it has been up to 75
minutes - depends on road works, number of tractors or other slow vehicles
encountered, school holidays, weather, etc., etc.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
> >     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?


Nothing practical - I'd have to catch a bus to Dublin, then another bus or
train - first bus would take about 1 hour, then between 30 mins and 1 hour
for train (intercity or stop-everywhere commuter), plus
a walk at each end, so not practical at all.

The only positive thing I can say about my commute is that we're moving
office soon, to somewhere a bit nearer, and I intend to work more often from
home.   Once or twice a month I spend a day at a different office, which
involves an 18 mile drive (25 mins), a 40 minute flight and a 15-min taxi
trip at the far end.

Aidan.

2006\08\31@145039 by Padu

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> 1) How do you commute to work?

Motorcycle, in between cars


> 2) How far?

25 miles each way


> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

35-45 minutes


> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>>    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

Not easily. Walk 3 miles to the nearest bus station, and then 1.5 hours to
get to my destination.

2006\08\31@150150 by Herbert Graf

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On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 08:44 -0700, William Chops Westfield wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>
> > It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
> > rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
> > a high quality of life...
>
> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

Car+carpooling

> 2) How far?

55km one way

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

35 minutes, either way

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

Yup, five different busses. Assuming the busses are on time (VERY
unlikely) it would take 3 hours one way, and would cost about $8, ONE
WAY. So that would be 6 hours travelling, and $16 EACH DAY, any wonder I
prefer the car! :)

As an aside, I moved last year. I used to live 22kms from work, one way.
Yet, due to traffic, I spent 35minutes going to work in the morning, and
1-1.5 hours to go home. I use LESS gas now then I did then, yet I travel
3 times the distance in a day. Go figure...


TTYL


2006\08\31@150618 by Byron A Jeff

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On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:44:28AM -0700, William Chops Westfield wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>
> > It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
> > rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
> > a high quality of life...
>
> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

Car

> 2) How far?

About 15 miles each way.

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

20-25 minutes.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

No easily accessible public trans near my house. At least 5 miles to the
nearest bus stop. So we're driving or biking. Then the trip would require a bus, two trains, and another bus in yet another transportation system. Never took
that trip but estimate it would be between 90 minutes and 2 hours each way.

Not to mention the complication of having two children that need to be
dropped off and picked up to school. My middle daughter has an interesting
situation. Her school is only about 1.5 miles from the house as the crow
flies. However it's out of district. Also we have no usable sidewalks so
walking or biking is out. If she were to take the school bus, it would end up
being a 10 mile trip that takes over 90 minutes each way to complete.

So would mass transport be cost or time effective in that case? It takes
about 3 minutes to drive her to school.

BAJ

2006\08\31@150640 by Tim

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> On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?
> 2) How far?
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

I work from home 4 out of 5 days. The one day I go into the office it
is 45 miles one way to a small rural town. It takes roughly an hour.
There is no public transportation.

Tim

2006\08\31@152502 by Philip Pemberton

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Does commuting to university count?

>> 1) How do you commute to work?

Train there, bus and train back.

>> 2) How far?

About 20 miles by road. Roughly 16 as the crow flies.

>> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

Outbound (to uni):
15 minutes walk to the train station, about half an hour on the train (plus
5-15 minutes between trains), 10 minutes walk. Usually just over an hour in total.

Inbound (coming home):
10 minutes walk to the train station, half an hour on the train, bus from the
train station home (less walking!). Total of about an hour, depending on how
many %#$*ing buses go right past the stop without, um, stopping.

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2006\08\31@162900 by Harold Hallikainen

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> 1) How do you commute to work?
Bus and bicycle (bus between cities, bicycle within cities)

> 2) How far?
About 30 miles (66km)

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
About an hour. Read one newspaper each way.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

See above. Bus pass is $30 per month. My wife and I both do the same commute.

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2006\08\31@162952 by Richard Prosser

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On 01/09/06, William Chops Westfield <@spam@westfwKILLspamspammac.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>
> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?
> 2) How far?
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
>

>From Christchurch NZ

1. Car, Single occupant 5 days a week (1000cc Subaru Justy ~15km/litre).
2.  7km
3. Approx 10 mins. I avoid the busy times which could take 15mins
excluding accident delays etc.
4. Bus. Actually 2 buses or a ~2km walk. I used to cycle & may do it
again in the summer on fine & low wind days. It was about 20min by
bicycle normally plus another 10 minutes getting changed & showering.

RP

2006\08\31@165411 by Marcel duchamp

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>> 1) How do you commute to work?

Car

>> 2) How far?

12.5 miles // 20 km

>> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

20-25 minutes

>> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?


Yes; about an hour each way.

My job recently moved from 1 mile away from home to 12.5 miles after 8
years.  I'm now looking to move closer and use my bike again.

2006\08\31@170853 by Lindy Mayfield

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So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
take a survey.

1) How do you commute to work?
Car, single occupant.  Work provides the car, I provide the gas.


2) How far?
12 kilometers.

3) How long does it take in each direction?
About 15 minutes when there is no traffic.  From 30 to 45 minutes if there is.

4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
   transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
Yes there is an alternative, but there would be 3 or 4 bus transfers in a roundabout way, so it isn't practical at all from where I live.  However here in Helsinki there is really good public transportation.  

2006\08\31@173723 by Robert Ammerman

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Note: below is broken up:
work at home(50%), work at local customer sites(40%),work at more distant
sites
1) walk, occasional bike or car, car or plane
2) feet, 2 to 10 miles, 100+ miles or so
3) seconds, minutes, hours
4) n/a, in some cases relatively convenient bus which I have used when car
in shop, intercity bus (yuck) or plane

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems

2006\08\31@183320 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William ChopsWestfield wrote:

>> It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
>> rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
>> a high quality of life...
>
> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.

I'll present the three more relevant (because longer lasting) situations I
had so far: university, on-site job, consulting.

University (Germany):

> 1) How do you commute to work?
Bicycle + commuter train
> 2) How far?
42 km (12 km bike, 30 km train)
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
90 min (40 min bike, 40 min train, 10 min foot)
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
By car would probably have been 20-30 min faster (including searching a
parking spot). Car + public transportation in the city would probably have
been the fastest. But I'd have lost the daily workout (bike) and the daily
reading time (train).

On-site job (Germany):

> 1) How do you commute to work?
Bicycle
> 2) How far?
10 km
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
30 min
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
By car would have been probably around 15 min. But I'd have had to spend
some on a gym membership (both money and time :)


Consulting (Brazil):

> 1) How do you commute to work?
Not at all. Work at home. Rare visits to clients, usually in the USA (plane
+ rental car).

Gerhard

2006\08\31@184027 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William ChopsWestfield wrote:

> It's become less attractive since the train station nearest my house was
> closed, making that initial walk close to 2 miles.

You could ride a bike to the train. This is quite common in Germany. Good
for your heart :)

Gerhard

2006\08\31@191446 by Jinx

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> > 1) How do you commute to work?

Some days, very reluctantly. Other days, the excited anticipation
of getting there is tempered by the fact that I already am

But always on foot (hands and knee days, eg Monday mornings,
thing of the past)

2) How far?

10ft if direct out of bed. 50ft if via the kitchen. Always via the
kitchen (brief stop at desk to power-up PC, suppose that counts
as work time, damn)

> > 3) How long does it take in each direction?

> Twice as long

There I'd have to disagree with Dave. In NZ half the distance
takes half the time. Unless you go half as slow, just to be difficult
in an e-mail

> > 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
> >  transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

Mother could give me a piggy back I guess, if she really loved
me, but she's not public. Not any more. And y'know, brittle
bones and all. Besides, when I win the lottery we're getting
separate beds, so I'd not be able to rely on her forever. Better
if I get used to making my own bleary-eyed way to the kettle

If I go into town to odd-job I'll generally bike or take the train.

Bike - slower but good exercise / interesting. No parking hassles
Train - quick, cheap, but you have to sit in the back carriage with
the other bike-riding oiks

2006\08\31@211250 by Gus S Calabrese

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On 2006-Aug 31, at 09:44hrs AM, William Chops Westfield wrote:


On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
> rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
> a high quality of life...

So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
take a survey.

1) How do you commute to work?
        by walking
2) How far?  20 feet
3) How long does it take in each direction?
        30 seconds
4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
There  is a silly PT system.  Steals money from public every year.
Denver, CO
5) I generally drive about 20-30 miles per week to events.

So for me:
1) commute by car, single occupant, 3 days a week. telecommute rest.
2) about 20 miles each direction.
3) I generally drive TO work after the morning rush is over,
    and it takes about 20 to 25 minutes.  Driving home catches
    the end of the evening rush hour, and usually takes 30 to 40.
4) I COULD walk to the train station, take train to lightrail
    station, take lightrail to near work, and walk the remaining
    distance.  This would take about an hour in that direction,
    and somewhat longer to ensure making connections in the
    reverse direction.  It's become less attractive since the
    train station nearest my house was closed, making that initial
    walk close to 2 miles.

BillW
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'[OT] On Commuting, and a survey...'
2006\09\01@024423 by Wouter van Ooijen
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> You could ride a bike to the train. This is quite common in Germany.

In the Netherlands too. My wife does so. I did so for some of years
(folding bike, free on the train, so the bike served at both ends of the
trip).

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\09\01@032722 by Alan B. Pearce

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>1) How do you commute to work?

by car

>2) How far?

about 4 1/2 miles

>3) How long does it take in each direction?

about 10-15 minutes country lane driving.

>4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>    transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

There is a bus service, travel time and price unknown, and it would involve
about a mile walk at the work end across the site from where the bus stop is
to my office plus about 200 metres at home end. My car can be parked within
100 metres of the office. The travel time of the bus would be at least
twice, and probably nearer three times the car travel time.

2006\09\01@033529 by Ruben Jönsson

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> On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>
> > It is not guaranteed that moving several tons of metal through
> > rush hour stop and go every day just to move one person means
> > a high quality of life...
>
> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

Public transportation (bus)

> 2) How far?

15 km by bus + aprox. 1km by foot.

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

25 minutes by bus + aprox 12 min walk

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
>

By car it would take me 15 minutes (even in rush hour).

/Ruben

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2006\09\01@033931 by Alan B. Pearce

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>after a while, I built up a breifcase containing a protoboard,
>parts, 12V solder iron, and 2 channel battery powered scope.
>A lot more pleasant to sit next to, than the guy with the
>bucket of seaweed..

Bet you got some strange looks as well.

"whatcha makin?"

"Control system ..."

"ahh, what for?"

"Cruise Missile"

"ahh, yer work for d' gummint?"

"nah doin' it for fun. gotta keep these terrorists at bay ..."

2006\09\01@034339 by Luis.Moreira

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Hi Guys,
I live 55 miles from work, my car takes me from the front of my house to the front of my office in arround 1 1/4 hours to 1 1/2 hours. Because of the fact I hate driving I tried the public transport. I have a walk from home to the train station of around 15 minutes, an average 3 hours jorney by train ( do to change overs and so on), and then have to walk another 15 minutes to my office. That costs me £25 a day, which is half what it costs me to fill the tank on my car. On that tank my car even with the way I drive lasts roughly 3 1/2 days (it's a diesel).
I can not afford to move closer to work at this point as I live in a cheaper part of the country and work at one of the most expensive ones. I love my job so I do not want to get another one.
Now, I can live with walking 30 minutes a day but what I can not live with is the money wasted and more importantly the 6 hours of my life that I would lose commuting.
I agree we should do what we can to stop polution, but unless the governments come up with practical solutions, and the important word is practical, people will not do it.
Fully integrated transport that is not set up primarely for profit but to provide reliable transport solutions is the way forward.
Until then I will continue to use my car and have no problems with it.
Best regards
           Luis  

 

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2006\09\01@040532 by Tony Smith

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> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  
> We have a relatively international community here, and I'd
> like to take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?
> 2) How far?
> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?
>


1) Train (20 min + 10 min walk) or bus (45 min).  If the weather is good I
take my skates (rollerblades) and skate home, 45 - 90 mins depending on
time, route & enthusiasm.  Motorbike on occasions (20 mins?).

2) About 10km.

3) Typically 30 mins to, 1 hour from.

4) N/A

Tony

2006\09\01@044208 by William Chops Westfield

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>> You could ride a bike to the train.

FWIW, I almost always take the train to trade shows and such in
San Francisco.  Even if I drive to the trains station and pay
for parking there, the train ticket plus parking is likely to be
less $ than merely PARKING in SF.  The train ride is somewhat
longer IF there are no traffic problems, and it's about a mile to
Moscone from the SF trains station (some shows provide shuttle
buses, but they tend to be timed inconveniently.)  Driving and
parking in the city can be extremely stressful...

BillW

2006\09\01@071037 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William ChopsWestfield wrote:

> FWIW, I almost always take the train to trade shows and such in
> San Francisco.  Even if I drive to the trains station and pay
> for parking there, the train ticket plus parking is likely to be
> less $ than merely PARKING in SF.  

This is an example of how including external costs can change things :)

Gerhard

2006\09\01@093452 by Mike Hord

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> > You could ride a bike to the train. This is quite common in Germany.
>
> In the Netherlands too. My wife does so. I did so for some of years
> (folding bike, free on the train, so the bike served at both ends of the
> trip).

Around here the (limited) rail service has bike racks inside, and the
buses have racks on the front.  Convenient!

Mike H.

2006\09\01@095637 by Jinx

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> Around here the (limited) rail service has bike racks inside, and
> the buses have racks on the front.  Convenient!

[Ridiculous Thing #1] Auckland buses got rid of the bike/pushchair
racks. As the Harbour Bridge is part of the motorway you can't
cycle over it and [Ridiculous Thing #2] there's no walkway (unless
you're going $100 bungy jumping). The only public transport across
the harbour is ferry. But then you'd probably have to bike miles to
get where you wanted to on the other side. Especially going from
Auckland City to the North Shore, because [Ridiculous Thing #3]
there are no trains on the North Shore. Passenger trains have done
away with the Guards Van/Card Room/Ping Pong Room (yes,
ping pong - the staff on the south-bound train in the morning played
table tennis as so many of the passengers were schoolkids with
passes they hardly bothered to see if there were any tickets to sell)

2006\09\01@101500 by Harold Hallikainen

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>> > You could ride a bike to the train. This is quite common in Germany.
>>
>> In the Netherlands too. My wife does so. I did so for some of years
>> (folding bike, free on the train, so the bike served at both ends of the
>> trip).
>
> Around here the (limited) rail service has bike racks inside, and the
> buses have racks on the front.  Convenient!
>
> Mike H.

Same here! The buses have a rack on the front and another on the back,
capable of holding a total of 6 bikes. We normally fill the front one and
start on the back one.

Harold


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2006\09\01@102028 by David VanHorn

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On 9/1/06, Alan B. Pearce <RemoveMEA.B.PearceTakeThisOuTspamrl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >after a while, I built up a breifcase containing a protoboard,
> >parts, 12V solder iron, and 2 channel battery powered scope.
> >A lot more pleasant to sit next to, than the guy with the
> >bucket of seaweed..
>
> Bet you got some strange looks as well.


Yup.. On that very system, I designed the sections of the first metal
detector I built from scratch (T/R, not BFO) which led to the finding of a
0.25 carat diamond pendant in an area that was not huntable with commercial
units becasue of interfrence, which led to the aquisition of my first
computer (OSI-C1P), and so on.

2006\09\01@102144 by William Couture

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On 8/31/06, William Chops Westfield <spamBeGonewestfwspamBeGonespammac.com> wrote:

> So, this has almost come up several times, and I'm curious.  We
> have a relatively international community here, and I'd like to
> take a survey.
>
> 1) How do you commute to work?

Car, single passenger.

> 2) How far?

About 5.5 miles

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?

12 minutes, +/- 1 minute

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

Public transportation would leave me about 1 mile away from
work.  Time unknown.

Bill

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2006\09\01@154418 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William Couture wrote:

> Public transportation would leave me about 1 mile away from
> work.  Time unknown.

Ask your doctor about what to do :)

Gerhard

2006\09\01@213027 by Tony Smith

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> William Couture wrote:
>
> > Public transportation would leave me about 1 mile away from work.  
> > Time unknown.
>
> Ask your doctor about what to do :)
>
> Gerhard


He'd probably say a 15 minute walk is good for you.  Unless you're walking
thru bear-infested woods, then a 5 minute run is good for you.

Tony

2006\09\04@223702 by William Couture

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On 9/1/06, Gerhard Fiedler <TakeThisOuTlistsEraseMEspamspam_OUTconnectionbrazil.com> wrote:

> William Couture wrote:
>
> > Public transportation would leave me about 1 mile away from
> > work.  Time unknown.
>
> Ask your doctor about what to do :)

Actually, I run a little over 4 miles per day.  But it's not the
state I want to be in when I get to work.

And that's 1 mile "as the crow flies", I don't know how far it would be
if I had to walk along the roads (sidewalks are not available).

Bill

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2006\09\05@070338 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William Couture wrote:

>>> Public transportation would leave me about 1 mile away from
>>> work.  Time unknown.
>>
>> Ask your doctor about what to do :)
>
> Actually, I run a little over 4 miles per day.  But it's not the
> state I want to be in when I get to work.

Besides (power) running and (power) driving, there are other ways of
locomotion :)

A contemplative stroll can do wonders for one's health (not only the
physical one).

Gerhard

2006\09\29@163539 by Nate Duehr

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William Chops Westfield wrote:

> 1) How do you commute to work?
Single passenger 4X4 - Jeep Cherokee.  (Sometimes in-town weather and
need to get to off-road sites in the mountains from time to time force
the 4X4, and I don't feel like owning two vehicles right now).

> 2) How far?
21.3 miles one-way, 42.6 round-trip, door-to-door with no errands or
side-trips.

> 3) How long does it take in each direction?
If I leave after rush hour starts, 50-80 minutes depending on accidents
or routing around them on alternate roads.  If I leave before or after
rush hour, 35.

Company has a no-work-from-home policy, although everything I do can be
done from any location with broadband Internet access.

> 4) If you don't use public transportation, IS there a public
>     transportation alternative?  How long would THAT take?

The area's newest light rail spur and a station will be about 1/2 mile
from my house, opening in November.  However, it would only get me to
Downtown where I'd have to transfer back to the bus system.

The bus either direct from my house or from the end of the light rail
line would either leave me 1 mile from the office or one block,
depending on transfers and exact time of day.

Total time one-way is approximately 1:10 either way.

*IF* the light rail system continues growth up the local north-south
transportation corridor and makes it all the way to my office (scheduled
currently by 2011) I would consider using the train.  Unfortunately, I
seriously doubt I'll be at the same office or company by 2011.  We'll see.

Nate

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