Post by thread:[OT] Need a shipping address within the US

Good day to all. I recently made an eBay purchase and discovered after I had won the item that the seller ships to the US only. I'm normally pretty careful about checking these things but . . . Anyhow, I'd still like to purchase the item. Seller has no problems accepting my PayPal payment but they insist on a US shipping address. Even though they specifically talk about Canada within the auction page . . . The thing is pretty small (a 'bias T') and would fit into the smaller of the USPS Flat Rate Envelopes. I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for this item. I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so that I can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may be needed. Thanks! dwayne -- Dwayne Reid <spam_OUTdwaynerTakeThisOuTplanet.eon.net> Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 22 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2006) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email.

Dwayne Reid wrote: {Quote hidden}>Good day to all. > >I recently made an eBay purchase and discovered after I had won the >item that the seller ships to the US only. I'm normally pretty >careful about checking these things but . . . > >Anyhow, I'd still like to purchase the item. Seller has no problems >accepting my PayPal payment but they insist on a US shipping >address. Even though they specifically talk about Canada within the >auction page . . . > >The thing is pretty small (a 'bias T') and would fit into the smaller >of the USPS Flat Rate Envelopes. > >I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for this >item. I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so that I >can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may be needed. > >Thanks! > >dwayne > > > I know you. I don't mind at all. Contact me offline for my mail box address. --Bob -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to .....attachKILLspam@spam@engineer.cotse.net . 1-520-850-1673 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer

part 1 1787 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (decoded quoted-printable) Dwayne, I live in Buffalo NY and could boarder cross to ship to you. I am new to this forum so I will understand if you don't take up my offer. Ray Newman Micro Designs 129 Isabelle Road Cheektowaga, NY 14225 716####634%%%%6739 ray at microdesigns dot biz Ray On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:31:10 -0700, Dwayne Reid wrote: {Quote hidden}>�Good day to all. > >�I recently made an eBay purchase and discovered after I had won the >�item that the seller ships to the US only. �I'm normally pretty >�careful about checking these things but . . . > >�Anyhow, I'd still like to purchase the item. �Seller has no >�problems accepting my PayPal payment but they insist on a US >�shipping address. �Even though they specifically talk about Canada >�within the auction page . . . > >�The thing is pretty small (a 'bias T') and would fit into the >�smaller of the USPS Flat Rate Envelopes. > >�I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for >�this item. �I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so >�that I can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may >�be needed. > >�Thanks! > >�dwayne > >�-- >�Dwayne Reid � <dwaynerKILLspamplanet.eon.net> >�Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd � �Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489- >�3199 voice � � � � �(780) 487-6397 fax > >�Celebrating 22 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2006) .-. >�.-. � .-. � .-. � .-. � .-. � .-. � .-. � .-. � .- `-' � `-' � `-' >� `-' � `-' � `-' � `-' � `-' � `-' Do NOT send unsolicited >�commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants >�consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to >�solicit commercial email. part 2 35 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (decoded 7bit)

me too, near niagara fall. that makes big difference shipping usa and canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Reid" <.....dwaynerKILLspam.....planet.eon.net> To: "pic microcontroller discussion list" <EraseMEpiclistspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:31 PM Subject: [OT] Need a shipping address within the US {Quote hidden}> Good day to all. > > I recently made an eBay purchase and discovered after I had won the > item that the seller ships to the US only. I'm normally pretty > careful about checking these things but . . . > > Anyhow, I'd still like to purchase the item. Seller has no problems > accepting my PayPal payment but they insist on a US shipping > address. Even though they specifically talk about Canada within the > auction page . . . > > The thing is pretty small (a 'bias T') and would fit into the smaller > of the USPS Flat Rate Envelopes. > > I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for this > item. I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so that I > can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may be needed. > > Thanks! > > dwayne > > -- > Dwayne Reid <dwaynerspam_OUTplanet.eon.net> > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA > (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax > > Celebrating 22 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2006) > .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- > `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' > Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. > This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited > commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. > > --

Dwayne Reid wrote: > I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for this > item. I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so that I > can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may be needed. I can do it if you don't find anyone closer. Someone in the US northwest would be a better choice, like maybe the Seattle area. I know you're in Alberta, but I don't think there are too many people that can spell PIC in northern Montana or Idaho. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products

doesnt rocketbob live in Montana? Olin Lathrop <@spam@olin_piclistKILLspamembedinc.com> wrote: Dwayne Reid wrote: > I'm looking for someone willing to act as a mail drop for me for this > item. I'd prefer someone who has also has a PayPal account so that I > can pay for shipping costs plus whatever other charges may be needed. I can do it if you don't find anyone closer. Someone in the US northwest would be a better choice, like maybe the Seattle area. I know you're in Alberta, but I don't think there are too many people that can spell PIC in northern Montana or Idaho. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products

Tomas Larsson wrote: > Is there any real explanaition why some sellers won't sell outside the US, > the kit would probably be easier to sell if they didn't have these stupid > ideas. Depending on how far the seller lives from a real US Post Office vs. what's called a Postal Sub-station could be one reason. There are a variety of services that are not available anywhere but a real Post Office. Foreign shipments are one of them. If it's difficult or really time consuming to get there maybe they figure it's not worth their effort. Another possible reason is insurance. It is not possible to insure shipments to some countries. The world's Postal services are a marvel. I can get packages to some European countries quicker than I can get them to a couple of US destinations. Tim

After what I've seen it is mostly companies that refuse to sell outside US. Since they tend to charge for handling, sending by UPS or similar wouldn't be a problem (don't they collect in US)? With best regards Tomas Larsson Sweden http://www.naks.mine.nu for downloads etc. ftp://ktl.mine.nu for uploads. Or use the free http://www.yousendit.com service. Verus Amicus Est Tamquam Alter Idem > {Original Message removed}

I found recently in ebay, usa people refuse to sell outside has increased dramatically. Just now, I am trying to buy a camera that have 10cm focus range. But, I find those sellers who have thousands selling already, called "power seller", answer do not to question: would you ship outside of USA?.A year ago, it is totally rare thing.. Now, it is popular. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomas Larsson" <KILLspamtomaslarssonseKILLspamyahoo.se> To: "'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'" <RemoveMEpiclistTakeThisOuTmit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Need a shipping address within the US > After what I've seen it is mostly companies that refuse to sell outside US. {Quote hidden}> Since they tend to charge for handling, sending by UPS or similar wouldn't > be a problem (don't they collect in US)? > > With best regards > > Tomas Larsson > Sweden > http://www.naks.mine.nu for downloads etc. > ftp://ktl.mine.nu for uploads. Or use the free http://www.yousendit.com service. > > Verus Amicus Est Tamquam Alter Idem > > > {Original Message removed}

Tomas Larsson wrote: > Is there any real explanaition why some sellers won't sell outside the > US, Yes, it's a lot more trouble to ship outside the US. The US is a big enough market that some sellers have decided the extra exposure isn't worth the hassle. If I were selling a few things personally, I might take that attitude too. I already charge considerably more for shipping outside the US, but it's not really enough to make up the extra difference when I account for my time at a reasonable rate. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products

Tim N9PUZ wrote: > The world's Postal services are a marvel. I can get packages to some > European countries quicker than I can get them to a couple of US > destinations. Hmm. My impression is that the US postal system is really very decent. For under $10 I can get a PIC programmer from Massachusetts to an obscure outpost in central Alaska in two days (yes, this has happened). But try getting something a few hundred miles north of here into Canada and it costs twice as much and takes 4 times as long. I don't know what they do up there, but even dogsled would be faster. I once got a letter from someone in southern Ontario, and noticed it has a US stamp on it postmarked in Buffalo NY. Out of curiosity I asked him about it, and he said they pay a courrier company to drive mail bound for the US over the border and dump it at the Buffalo post office. This was cheaper and quicker than mailing it from a Canadian post office. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products

On 3/16/06, Olin Lathrop <spamBeGoneolin_piclistspamBeGoneembedinc.com> wrote: > I once got a letter from someone in southern Ontario, and noticed it has a > US stamp on it postmarked in Buffalo NY. Out of curiosity I asked him about > it, and he said they pay a courrier company to drive mail bound for the US > over the border and dump it at the Buffalo post office. This was cheaper > and quicker than mailing it from a Canadian post office. I can give some metrics on this. I believe it costs about USD$0.33 to mail a letter in the US, right? To mail a letter from Canada to the USA costs us about CDN$1 or so. At today's exchange rate, that's USD$0.87. If you have enough letters to mail, this adds up... Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams

At 10:25 AM 3/16/2006 -0500, you wrote: >On 3/16/06, Olin Lathrop <TakeThisOuTolin_piclistEraseMEspam_OUTembedinc.com> wrote: > > I once got a letter from someone in southern Ontario, and noticed it has a > > US stamp on it postmarked in Buffalo NY. Out of curiosity I asked him > about > > it, and he said they pay a courrier company to drive mail bound for the US > > over the border and dump it at the Buffalo post office. This was cheaper > > and quicker than mailing it from a Canadian post office. > >I can give some metrics on this. I believe it costs about USD$0.33 to >mail a letter in the US, right? To mail a letter from Canada to the >USA costs us about CDN$1 or so. At today's exchange rate, that's >USD$0.87. If you have enough letters to mail, this adds up... > >Josh I've done mailings where 80% are destined for the US and 20% for Canada. By producing the materials remotely in California and paying double for each that is mailed north of the border, it works out a fair bit cheaper, especially with the current sorry state of the greenback. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" RemoveMEspeffTakeThisOuTinterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 07:06 -0500, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Tim N9PUZ wrote: > > The world's Postal services are a marvel. I can get packages to some > > European countries quicker than I can get them to a couple of US > > destinations. > > Hmm. My impression is that the US postal system is really very decent. For > under $10 I can get a PIC programmer from Massachusetts to an obscure > outpost in central Alaska in two days (yes, this has happened). But try > getting something a few hundred miles north of here into Canada and it costs > twice as much and takes 4 times as long. I don't know what they do up > there, but even dogsled would be faster. > > I once got a letter from someone in southern Ontario, and noticed it has a > US stamp on it postmarked in Buffalo NY. Out of curiosity I asked him about > it, and he said they pay a courrier company to drive mail bound for the US > over the border and dump it at the Buffalo post office. This was cheaper > and quicker than mailing it from a Canadian post office. Odd. I find the Canadian postal system very good. Time for a post card to reach the west coast from Toronto is on the order of 2 days. Personally I always ship to the US with Canada Post/USPS, it's by far the cheapest, and just as reliable as the couriers. I've had far more problems with the courier companies (FedEx, UPS and Purolator have all made weird mistakes). The only error I've experienced recently was a large letter destined for Austria taking a stopover in Sydney, Australia. Given the very similar spelling of the names (in english) of the two countries it's understandable, but still very annoying. Now, if you are talking about commercial shipments Olin that is a different story. Any shipment of "value" can be intercepted by customs, and customs has been know to take it's sweet time. 4 days is a short amount of time for a package that passed through customs in my experience. Note that this delay is universal, whether you use the postal service or a courier company. TTYL ----------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/

Olin Lathrop wrote: > Tim N9PUZ wrote: > >>The world's Postal services are a marvel. I can get packages to some >>European countries quicker than I can get them to a couple of US >>destinations. > > > Hmm. My impression is that the US postal system is really very decent. For > under $10 I can get a PIC programmer from Massachusetts to an obscure > outpost in central Alaska in two days (yes, this has happened). But try > getting something a few hundred miles north of here into Canada and it costs > twice as much and takes 4 times as long. I don't know what they do up > there, but even dogsled would be faster. Oh, I think the USPO is a real bargain all things considered. I just meant that the paths mail takes and the small delays are certainly a mystery! Priority Mail in particular is fantastic considering that included in the cost are shipping supplies like boxes, tape, etc. Tim, N9PUZ

Many thanks to all! dwayne -- Dwayne Reid <EraseMEdwaynerplanet.eon.net> Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 22 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2006) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email.

Hi group. After reading the thread, I have come with the idea that there is a nice job oportunity for someone there in the US. I, as a guy living in Latin America, have had all kind of issues with ebayers which don`t ship outside the US. I have used commercial "middle shippers" like Transexpress and others and, althougt they make the job pretty well, their prices are really high. Maybe one of you, eager entreprenour, might find a better, cheaper way of doing this and start a very profitable bussines from this? Just a crazy idea. Regards, *Carlos Marcano* -Guri, Venezuela-

Carlos Marcano wrote: >Hi group. > >After reading the thread, I have come with the idea that there is a nice job >oportunity for someone there in the US. I, as a guy living in Latin America, >have had all kind of issues with ebayers which don`t ship outside the US. I >have used commercial "middle shippers" like Transexpress and others and, >althougt they make the job pretty well, their prices are really high. Maybe >one of you, eager entreprenour, might find a better, cheaper way of doing >this and start a very profitable bussines from this? Just a crazy idea. > >Regards, > >*Carlos Marcano* >-Guri, Venezuela- > > That sounds like a good idea. I am retiring soon. Maybe _I_ should do that? --Bob -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to RemoveMEattachEraseMEEraseMEengineer.cotse.net . 1-520-850-1673 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer

> Maybe one of you, eager entreprenour, might find a better, cheaper > way of doing this and start a very profitable bussines from this? Smuggling has always been profitable. People don't ship out of the US because it's genuinely difficult to keep track of all the legal aspects that might apply. Oh, you can get away with for an occasional personal shipment or something that might be considered "gifts", or that is well under the limits, goods, and destinations where the law starts to take notice. But start to do "export" as part of an identifiable business and you'll need to either have your own lawyers, or rely on the lawyers of UPS/etc (and pay their high rates.) "Customs" is only the beginning. (I remember I time I took some parts and EPROMS with new software up to Canada, in blissful ignorance of any special requirements. Cisco sent someone after me to deliver the appropriate paperwork WHILE I WAS ON THE PLANE waiting to take off... Oops.) BillW

On 19/03/06, William Chops Westfield <RemoveMEwestfwspam_OUTKILLspammac.com> wrote: > > > Maybe one of you, eager entreprenour, might find a better, cheaper > > way of doing this and start a very profitable bussines from this? > > Smuggling has always been profitable. That wasn´t the way I was thinking. I just thought on a "middle" guy who could reship (at an affordable price) items following regular legal paths. Regards, *Carlos Marcano* -Guri, Venezuela-

Carlos Marcano wrote: > > That wasn´t the way I was thinking. I just thought on a "middle" guy who > could reship (at an affordable price) items following regular legal paths . When I was living in Guatemala, there was an outfit which would pay your plane fare to fly to the States (provided you had a proper passport, looked presentable, etc.) One time I checked into it, and the only thing that I had to do to get a free ticket was to carry a small, flat envelope back to the States for them. I did, and a guy met me a the airport in Miami, gave the proper identification, I gave him the package and that was the end of that. I know what you all are thinking, but it was much too small to be drugs, and the service was widely advertised in Guatemala. Looked like just a few papers of some sort in an envelope. I have often wondered what it was and why it was worth a couple hundred dollars to have a courier bring it to the States. (Yeah -- I know -- not really relevant to what Carlos said. But it did make me remember that incident, and so I did like they used to tell me to do in grade school -- I "shared." :-) John

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006, William Chops Westfield wrote: >> Maybe one of you, eager entreprenour, might find a better, cheaper >> way of doing this and start a very profitable bussines from this? > > People don't ship out of the US because it's genuinely difficult to > keep track of all the legal aspects that might apply. Oh, you can Legal aspects ? Your country is the most likely to *sue*. Once the goods are outside, the chances that someone is going to sue an US citizen are about zero. You have to realize that outside your 'continent' the world is made up of lots of small and smaller countries which ship just about everything across some border or another, often even matches and milk, not to mention commuting to work 'abroad' maybe 5 or 10 miles away, or buying gas or cigarettes or toilet paper 'abroad' 3 miles away. While the paperwork can be a nightmare this does not usually apply to small items. Peter

On Mar 21, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Peter wrote: > Legal aspects ? Your country is the most likely to *sue*. Once > the goods are outside, the chances that someone is going to > sue an US citizen are about zero. > That's not the sort of legal aspect I had in mind. I was thinking only of the US's various and frequently ridiculous laws, including things like certain software or CPUs above a certain clock speed being regulated as "munitions." > While the paperwork can be a nightmare this does not usually > apply to small items. Probably not for individuals. But if you start to do things AS A BUSINESS, the laws start to apply anyway. A lot of eBay sellers these days are on the edge of being small businesses using eBay as a storefront (or even well over that edge.) I'd expect them to be treading a thin line about needing to obey the laws that apply to businesses vs the exemptions that apply to individuals... (for instance, not that this applies to export: If you go out and buy an oxy acetylene welding rig for your hobby, there's probably no problem taking it home in your car. If you're a professional welder and you want to carry the same equipment in your truck, you'd better have hazmat placarding and the special drivers license necessary to card around such dangerous stuff.) BillW

>> Legal aspects ? Your country is the most likely to *sue*. >> Once the goods are outside, the chances that someone is >> going to sue an US citizen are about zero. >> >That's not the sort of legal aspect I had in mind. I was >thinking only of the US's various and frequently ridiculous >laws, including things like certain software or CPUs above >a certain clock speed being regulated as "munitions." I have seen some of the problems the ITARS regulations create. They also produce some ridiculous situations. Some of my colleagues have provided drawings for scientific instruments we have done for satellites, and they go into the NASA system, get their numbering on them, and thereby get restrictions on us accessing them, because they are now considered subject to ITARS regulations.

Olin Lathrop wrote: > I don't know what they do up > there, but even dogsled would be faster. I don't think it's what "they do up there", it's the border crossing that's the problem. Letters to the USA through Brazilian postal service routinely reach the "hand over point" to the USPS rather quickly, but often then stall, probably at some kind of border check (security, customs) before they enter the USPS distribution system and proceed. Gerhard