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2009\07\26@232040 by solarwind

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What mail clients do you all use?

I use Gmail web interface as well as Thunderbird (for Gmail and Hotmail
and university mail).

2009\07\26@233311 by Harold Hallikainen

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> What mail clients do you all use?

SquirrelMail


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2009\07\26@234206 by Carl Denk

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Thunderbird, but having problems with forwarding HTML with embedded
pictures. Trying SeaMonkey, but might be same issue. I have DSL through
local phone company, and use their servers. Don't like anymore than
absolutely necessary data on someone else's computer. Want to be able to
use same mail data files with all, including dual boot with Kubuntu, but
haven't spent much time on that yet.

solarwind wrote:
> What mail clients do you all use?
>
> I use Gmail web interface as well as Thunderbird (for Gmail and Hotmail
> and university mail).
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2009\07\26@235413 by Harold Hallikainen

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On Thunderbird, instead of forwarding, try replying, then put in the
address you want to forward to. Thunderbird generally assumes the person
you're forwarding to does not accept html mail.

Harold

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2009\07\27@004023 by cdb

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:: What mail clients do you all use?
There's a reply here that I'm just aching to utter :)

I use PocoMail.
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2009\07\27@005408 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, solarwind<.....x.solarwind.xKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
> What mail clients do you all use?
>
> I use Gmail web interface as well as Thunderbird (for
> Gmail and Hotmail and university mail).

Web interface for Gmail, Yahoo Email and Hotmail.
I used to use Thunderbird for Newsgroups and mailing
list I did not subscribe (using Gmane)  but now
I also use Gmail to access mailing lists and some
newsgroups. It seems to me I will not exceed the
quota of any of the accounts anytime soon.

At work, it is still the world of Microsoft Outlook
or Lotus Notes.

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2009\07\27@083529 by Carl Denk

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Tried replying, that doesn't work either. The preferences are set to
send HTML. Googling and searching Mozilla forms indicate this issue goes
back a few years, there are lots of complaints. I can even forward or
reply to my self on the list with poor results.

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2009\07\27@090030 by Harold Hallikainen

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Sorry that didn't work out. I think it did work on Thunderbird on my
wife's Mac.

Harold


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2009\07\27@115348 by Herbert Graf

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Evolution.

Amazing client, even connects to exchange servers, it's what I use at
work so I don't have to run windows (all our email/contacts/calender
stuff is on exchange servers).

TTYL

On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 23:20 -0400, solarwind wrote:
> What mail clients do you all use?
>
> I use Gmail web interface as well as Thunderbird (for Gmail and Hotmail
> and university mail).

2009\07\27@153803 by solarwind

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Herbert Graf<hkgrafspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:
> Evolution.
>
> Amazing client, even connects to exchange servers, it's what I use at
> work so I don't have to run windows (all our email/contacts/calender
> stuff is on exchange servers).

I love Evolution. It really is a good client. Also cool how it naively
integrates well with the GTK widget set.

But I still can't get away from Thunderbird and it's amazing addons
(Gmail account setup, Gmail contact sync and so on).

Squirrel mail is cool too - but I think it needs a new theme.

2009\07\29@223448 by Gerhard Fiedler

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solarwind wrote:

> What mail clients do you all use?
>
> I use Gmail web interface as well as Thunderbird (for Gmail and
> Hotmail and university mail).

40tude Dialog for mailing lists and newsgroups, Outlook for the rest.

Gerhard

2009\07\30@061941 by Tamas Rudnai

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I tried many email clients for Gmail, but all of them have problems with my
PIClist folder... It has something like 10k mails and they cannot seem to be
able to handle it. They are either ridiculously slow or even crashing on it.
So what I could do is to disable PIClist from the client, but then what is
the advantage of using a client instead of the web interface?

Anybody else has similar problems or solutions?

Thanks
Tamas


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Gerhard Fiedler <.....listsKILLspamspam.....connectionbrazil.com
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2009\07\30@084712 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tamas Rudnai wrote:

> I tried many email clients for Gmail, but all of them have problems
> with my PIClist folder... It has something like 10k mails and they
> cannot seem to be able to handle it. They are either ridiculously
> slow or even crashing on it. So what I could do is to disable PIClist
> from the client, but then what is the advantage of using a client
> instead of the web interface?
>
> Anybody else has similar problems or solutions?

I think that you probably can solve this with a different setup.

I also use Gmail for archiving the piclist messages. But I don't use
IMAP to access them; I use POP. This means that my email client (40tude
Dialog) only sees the new messages (and the ones I haven't yet deleted
locally). I have set the client to automatically delete older messages,
so my local pool of messages never grows too big.

If I want to see older messages, I can go online.

Gerhard

2009\07\30@112007 by Herbert Graf

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On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:47 -0500, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> I think that you probably can solve this with a different setup.
>
> I also use Gmail for archiving the piclist messages. But I don't use
> IMAP to access them; I use POP. This means that my email client (40tude
> Dialog) only sees the new messages (and the ones I haven't yet deleted
> locally). I have set the client to automatically delete older messages,
> so my local pool of messages never grows too big.
>
> If I want to see older messages, I can go online.

FWIW, I have a server at home running a getmail script that collects new
messages from all my email addresses (gmail being one of them, my
piclist email address being another).

That machine has an IMAP server (dovecot), so no matter where I am and
what machine I use all my email folders are available (I use an ssh
tunnel to get to my server, much more secure then an exposed IMAP
service). Plus, backing up my email becomes very easy (it's just one
directory on the server).

The benefit of course is I don't rely on anything other service to store
my email, it's all on my home machine. Another benefit is when I'm at
home accessing my email folders is WAY faster then an online service.
Obviously when my internet link goes down I loose access, but
fortunately that's been pretty rare.

TTYL

2009\07\30@144801 by solarwind

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Tamas Rudnai<EraseMEtamas.rudnaispam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> I tried many email clients for Gmail, but all of them have problems with my
> PIClist folder... It has something like 10k mails and they cannot seem to be
> able to handle it. They are either ridiculously slow or even crashing on it.
> So what I could do is to disable PIClist from the client, but then what is
> the advantage of using a client instead of the web interface?
>
> Anybody else has similar problems or solutions?

Yes, that is the disadvantage of IMAP and most IMAP clients. You can
use POP and it will work as expected, but then we all know the
disadvantages of POP.

2009\07\30@153843 by Herbert Graf

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On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 14:47 -0400, solarwind wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Tamas Rudnai<tamas.rudnaispamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> > I tried many email clients for Gmail, but all of them have problems with my
> > PIClist folder... It has something like 10k mails and they cannot seem to be
> > able to handle it. They are either ridiculously slow or even crashing on it.
> > So what I could do is to disable PIClist from the client, but then what is
> > the advantage of using a client instead of the web interface?
> >
> > Anybody else has similar problems or solutions?
>
> Yes, that is the disadvantage of IMAP and most IMAP clients.

Perhaps 10,000 is a hard number? I just checked, my "saved messages"
folder has 7364 messages and my "sent items" folder has 5061 items
(emails back to 2004). Both folders access very quickly, even over my
paltry 800kbps DSL upload.

Initially it did take a while to build the index locally, but aside from
that Evolution has no problem with IMAP folders with that many messages
in them.

TTYL

2009\07\30@162516 by solarwind

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Herbert Graf<@spam@hkgrafKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps 10,000 is a hard number? I just checked, my "saved messages"
> folder has 7364 messages and my "sent items" folder has 5061 items
> (emails back to 2004). Both folders access very quickly, even over my
> paltry 800kbps DSL upload.
>
> Initially it did take a while to build the index locally, but aside from
> that Evolution has no problem with IMAP folders with that many messages
> in them.
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> TTYL

Hmm, I have to test it out on evolution then. Thunderbird seems to be
a bit laggy.

2009\07\30@170912 by Tamas Rudnai

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I'll try Evolution, thanks for that Herbert.

Tamas


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2009\07\30@173543 by x.solarwind.x

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On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 22:08 +0100, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> I'll try Evolution, thanks for that Herbert.

I just set up gmail on Evolution (Ubuntu) and it's really good. The
initial mail check takes a few minutes to complete but after that, it's
really fast (fast than Thunderbird).

2009\07\30@182548 by Tamas Rudnai

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On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 17:34 -0400, x.solarwind.x wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 22:08 +0100, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> > I'll try Evolution, thanks for that Herbert.
>
> I just set up gmail on Evolution (Ubuntu) and it's really good. The
> initial mail check takes a few minutes to complete but after that, it's
> really fast (fast than Thunderbird).
>

Works for me too -- last time I have tried it was not that fast...

Anyway, for a few days I will evaluate it and I hope it will solve my
problem.

Thanks
Tamas

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