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1999\09\23@220714 by McMeikan, Andrew

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Agreed,
       If anyone is serious about perpetual motion then you should be
looking at converting heat (atomic kinetic energy) to motion, so some sort
of nano-machines turning a generator or a very sensitive infra-red
solar-cell.  Then you can get power *out* of your fridge :)

 only over way is tapping zero-point field energy (if it can be tapped),
since it seems that the volume of 'empty' space occupied by a cup is enough
to boil all the oceans, this option is likely to a) not work, b) blow us all
to bits.

we could always make a small black hole, feed it charged particles and give
it a good spin.  So long as we kept feeding it to keep the spin up we could
extract power.  Sooner or later though it may get a little hard to handle!

       cya,    Andrew...

PS:  Since we are getting tones of sunlight, why not use that?  Anyone made
a solar powered PIC grass eating robot?

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1999\09\23@222914 by l.allen

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>   only over way is tapping zero-point field energy (if it can be tapped),
> since it seems that the volume of 'empty' space occupied by a cup is enough
> to boil all the oceans, this option is likely to a) not work, b) blow us all
> to bits.
>
> we could always make a small black hole, feed it charged particles and give
> it a good spin.  So long as we kept feeding it to keep the spin up we could
> extract power.  Sooner or later though it may get a little hard to handle!
>

I like the attitude of the Manhattan Project scientists.. they were
fairly sure the bomb wouldn't ignite the earths atmosphere..."only one
way to be sure".
Looks as sensible as some Genetic research.. frog genes in plants...
I might be ignorant but that makes playing with nuclear weapons look
sane. Insanity appears to be fashionable prerequisite these days, GM
foods, road rage, violent interview shows, Bigger and bigger
cars/4wd, and worst.. study for years to get paid peanuts designing
with PICs when if I had done accounting instead I could have a huge
income without actually producing anything.



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Lance Allen
Technical Officer
Uni of Auckland
Psych Dept
New Zealand
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1999\09\23@230100 by Rob Bakker

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<snip>
and worst.. study for years to get paid peanuts designing
> with PICs when if I had done accounting instead I could have a huge
> income without actually producing anything.
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> Lance Allen


heh heh  even if this is WAY OT I am beginning to enjoy this thread....
and I agree with you, Lance,  but accounting is too mind numbing for me

But back to that magnetic/gravity rotor thingy....
it will just rotate until it finds an equilibrium/balance and stop - so no
free lunch there I'm sorry

RoB>)

Rob Bakker
Psych Dept
University of Waikato
New Zealand

1999\09\24@011146 by William M. Smithers

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Rob! You Dog!

-Will

William Smithers
Tradeware Corp.
99 Wall Street
New York, NY 10005
212-809-7700
212-809-7049 (FAX)



On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Rob Bakker wrote:

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1999\09\24@140445 by Erik Reikes

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At 03:02 PM 9/24/99 +1200, you wrote:
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>heh heh  even if this is WAY OT I am beginning to enjoy this thread....
>and I agree with you, Lance,  but accounting is too mind numbing for me
>

Confucious say : Better to pay the man counting the money well up front.
You are replaceable.

;)

-Erik Reikes

1999\09\24@175536 by Graeme Smith

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This is getting a little Outrageous ;)

However, just to confuse everyone... I once observed a TRIPOLAR magnet.

It literally had 2 North poles and one South Pole approximately 2/3 of the
way down the bar, (yes it was one of those bar magnets we used at school)

People don't really understand field.

Probably because it is so.... invisible, indescribeable etc.

Physicists simply say that field is an area (of interest) in which every
point has a value. (parenthesis are mine).

What that value measures, determines the type of field.

So if we have a field of electromagnetic potential, we will find that
at every location there is a polar attraction/repulsion value that
indicates the STRENGTH of the field at that point. When we graph points of
similar potential, we find that the lines we generate do not cross.

We call such graphed lines of equi-magnetic potential magnetic flux lines.

The Field that surrounds the magnet, is often called the Flux of the
magnet as a result.

Because we cannot measure the magnetic flow within the magnet as easily as
the magnetic flow outside, we seldom discuss flux in a magnet.However it
does exist.

The question should always be, What exactly is flowing through the flux,
that causes the attraction and repulsion.

Any Takers???

                               Grey

GRAEME SMITH                         email: spam_OUTgrysmithTakeThisOuTspamfreenet.edmonton.ab.ca
YMCA Edmonton

Address has changed with little warning!
(I moved across the hall! :) )

Email will remain constant... at least for now.

1999\09\24@180411 by Dan Larson

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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:53:35 -0600, Graeme Smith wrote:

>This is getting a little Outrageous ;)

But fun!

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>The question should always be, What exactly is flowing through the flux,
>that causes the attraction and repulsion.
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It's ether!

Dan

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