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2009\07\20@193856 by AGSCalabrese

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I was so happy to see someone sing my song... Stupid MacIntardos,  
idiot MacBoys.   Today my mixed network where I am forced to use both  
"Macs" and "PCs running XP" went down and caused me to miss an  
important appointment.  I went from computer to computer...... The XP  
server was still up and the Macs were too dumb to know they were in  
the middle of a network crash.  Sheesh.... They were still up and  
talkig to the server.  Only the XP machines were sophisticated enough  
to disconnect from the network.  All of them ..... talk about  
consistency of product.  That is what I expect from Windows.  And then  
I tried to do "a work around"  and found the CD burner on the XP  
server was "taking a break".   I mean is this new age or what ?

Gus



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2009\07\20@194752 by c.marcano

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Regards,

Carlos.
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:38:54
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I was so happy to see someone sing my song... Stupid MacIntardos,  
idiot MacBoys.   Today my mixed network where I am forced to use both  
"Macs" and "PCs running XP" went down and caused me to miss an  
important appointment.  I went from computer to computer...... The XP  
server was still up and the Macs were too dumb to know they were in  
the middle of a network crash.  Sheesh.... They were still up and  
talkig to the server.  Only the XP machines were sophisticated enough  
to disconnect from the network.  All of them ..... talk about  
consistency of product.  That is what I expect from Windows.  And then  
I tried to do "a work around"  and found the CD burner on the XP  
server was "taking a break".   I mean is this new age or what ?

Gus



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2009\07\20@201930 by Bob Blick

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I dunno, not too many people using Amigas or Atari ST's anymore. Apple
seems to have won that battle.

And they seem to hang on to their fanbase despite their higher cost.
They don't need to appeal to more than a single digit of market share.
There's plenty of money right there, and it's easy for them.

But everyone knows the TRS-80 model 100 was the ultimate laptop :)

Cheerful regards,

Bob

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:38:54 -0600, "AGSCalabrese" <agscalspamKILLspamgmail.com>
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> I was so happy to see someone sing my song... Stupid MacIntardos,  

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2009\07\20@204416 by Marcel Duchamp

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Bob Blick wrote:
> I dunno, not too many people using Amigas or Atari ST's anymore. Apple
> seems to have won that battle.
>
> And they seem to hang on to their fanbase despite their higher cost.
> They don't need to appeal to more than a single digit of market share.
> There's plenty of money right there, and it's easy for them.
>
> But everyone knows the TRS-80 model 100 was the ultimate laptop :)
>
> Cheerful regards,
>
> Bob

Nah, it'll never catch on.  S100 bus, now there's a computer!

2009\07\20@211421 by Carl Denk

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Concurred, had a Compupro, ran both the Z80, and the 8085/8088 that
would run Dos, and Concurrent DOS. Gee back then CGA color was something
special. To switch windows, it was CTL-1, 2, 3, or 4. I was going to one
of these days try loading Concurrent Dos on this P4.  I miss the 2
floppy ability. :(

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2009\07\21@071622 by AGSCalabrese
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The S100 bus was the last time I understood a computer bus completely.
POD

2009\07\22@081828 by M.L.

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM, AGSCalabrese<.....agscalKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> I was so happy to see someone sing my song... Stupid MacIntardos,
> idiot MacBoys.   Today my mixed network where I am forced to use both
> "Macs" and "PCs running XP" went down and caused me to miss an
> important appointment.  I went from computer to computer...... The XP
> server was still up and the Macs were too dumb to know they were in
> the middle of a network crash.  Sheesh.... They were still up and
> talkig to the server.  Only the XP machines were sophisticated enough
> to disconnect from the network.  All of them ..... talk about
> consistency of product.  That is what I expect from Windows.  And then
> I tried to do "a work around"  and found the CD burner on the XP
> server was "taking a break".   I mean is this new age or what ?
>
> Gus
>

If only more computer companies controlled both the hardware and
software with an iron fist.
-
Martin

2009\07\22@152614 by Gerhard Fiedler

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M.L. wrote:

> If only more computer companies controlled both the hardware and
> software with an iron fist.

Are you serious? Do you really want to be restricted to use Microchip
hardware only with Microchip software (and vice versa)? Or -- one step
further -- only want to be able to program PICs with Microchip
programmers? Only use Microsoft motherboards with Windows? Maybe only
use Intel or AMD software with your processor? Only use your Internet
provider's appliance (it has a screen, but no Ethernet connector :) with
your Internet connection?

I'm deeply grateful for open standards and attempts at interoperability.

Gerhard

2009\07\22@164935 by Tamas Rudnai

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Theoretically you can use MacOS only on Apple HW, Microsoft whatever OS on
Xbox, as far as I know there was only IBM AIX on RS6000 etc etc etc :-)

That's not a Futurama, that's the reality :-)

Tamas


On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Gerhard Fiedler <EraseMElistsspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTconnectionbrazil.com
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2009\07\23@080415 by M.L.

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Gerhard
Fiedler<listsspamspam_OUTconnectionbrazil.com> wrote:
> M.L. wrote:
>
>> If only more computer companies controlled both the hardware and
>> software with an iron fist.
>
> Are you serious? Do you really want to be restricted to use Microchip
> hardware only with Microchip software (and vice versa)? Or -- one step
> further -- only want to be able to program PICs with Microchip
> programmers? Only use Microsoft motherboards with Windows? Maybe only
> use Intel or AMD software with your processor? Only use your Internet
> provider's appliance (it has a screen, but no Ethernet connector :) with
> your Internet connection?
>
> I'm deeply grateful for open standards and attempts at interoperability.
>
> Gerhard

I thought the sarcasm was obvious. No, I don't think we need more
companies that control hardware+software. That's leftover from the 80s
AFAIK and I don't think anyone but Apple could succeed at it. Unless
you count Microsoft with it's XBox, but that's hardly considered a
general purpose computer (yes, I know people use it as such in some
limited cases.)

A  quick Google search shows that at least one company makes Apple
clones. I'm not up-to-date on Apple's frivolous lawsuits. It seems
they would have less of a leg to stand on since Macs are 99% "PC" now.

-
Martin

2009\07\23@114704 by AGSCalabrese

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I am happy to see both the iron fist and the anarchy of white boxes.
In a FREE MARKET ,  you can pick what flavour you want today.
Most lawsuits are a bad thing to have happen.
Gus

2009\07\25@000926 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tamas Rudnai wrote:

> Theoretically you can use MacOS only on Apple HW, Microsoft whatever
> OS on Xbox, as far as I know there was only IBM AIX on RS6000 etc etc
> etc :-)
>
> That's not a Futurama, that's the reality :-)

Of course, but is it what you want?

Gerhard

2009\07\25@001045 by Gerhard Fiedler

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M.L. wrote:

>> M.L. wrote:
>>
>>> If only more computer companies controlled both the hardware and
>>> software with an iron fist.
>>
>> Are you serious? [...]
>
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious.

Ah, sorry, but it wasn't to me. The breadth and depth of opinions on
this list goes wide :)

Gerhard

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