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> > Hello, > > Has anyone attempted to run MPLAB under Linux with wine? I'm having some > trouble with it. (hangs at the splash screen). > > OR > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a PIC IDE under Linux that > would be easy enough for a beginner to figure out? Take a look at the gnupic page: http://reality.sgi.com/jamesb/gnupic I use the gnuasm assembler, picpro 2.2 programmer with a homemade Tait style programmer and gnusim 0.7 for debugging. They are not integrated but quite effective for generating projects for the 16C/F84. My next project is a serial programmer that will program the rest of the PIC family. However I'm not sure when I'll get to it... BAJ > > Erik >

On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Byron A Jeff wrote: > > Has anyone attempted to run MPLAB under Linux with wine? I'm having some > > trouble with it. (hangs at the splash screen). > > > > OR > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a PIC IDE under Linux that > > would be easy enough for a beginner to figure out? > > Take a look at the gnupic page: http://reality.sgi.com/jamesb/gnupic > > I use the gnuasm assembler, picpro 2.2 programmer with a homemade Tait style > programmer and gnusim 0.7 for debugging. They are not integrated but quite > effective for generating projects for the 16C/F84. My next project is a > serial programmer that will program the rest of the PIC family. However I'm > not sure when I'll get to it... It's actually gpasm and gpsim. You can get the latest (unofficial) version of gpasm (*) on my webpage. It will produce .cod files which in turn allow symbolic debugging with gpsim: http://www.interstice.com/~sdattalo/gnupic/gpsim.html I'll be releasing a new version of gpsim any day now. However, this next release is basically a rewrite of the CLI (command line interface). The cli btw, is the only way gpsim currently can be used. The release after this though will begin adding a gui to enhance (but not replace) the cli. Scott (*) The reason the version of gpasm on my web page is unofficial is because I've been unable to contact James Bowman, the original author. Does anyone know where he might be?

Hi, I also got MPLab running under linux. my problem is to communicate and download programs to pics using the PICSTART PLUS development programmer. I tried a lot of times to download to pics unsing MPLAB under linux. But i always got error messages because a specific function of windoze isn't implemented in wine at the moment (got this after a request to the wine mailing list). Pherhaps if somebody knows someone of the wine developers he could get them to do the work :-) I would be nice if anybody knows some "normal" linux program which i could use to download HEX files to the PICSTART PLUS programmer, which is pretty nice cause it could program all devices - not like most of the DIY programmers. RFC - request for comments. -sorry for my broken english< Kraft Bernhard HTL Mšdling Austria {Quote hidden}> > Hello, > > Has anyone attempted to run MPLAB under Linux with wine? I'm having some > trouble with it. (hangs at the splash screen). > > OR > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a PIC IDE under Linux that > would be easy enough for a beginner to figure out? >

At 12:58 AM 4/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > >Has anyone attempted to run MPLAB under Linux with wine? I'm having some >trouble with it. (hangs at the splash screen). > >OR > >Does anyone have any recommendations for a PIC IDE under Linux that >would be easy enough for a beginner to figure out? > >Erik > We have not tried our IDE or programmer software under Wine so I do not know if it will work. However, you can download it from our web site and try it! I think you will find it very intuitive (assuming wine emulates all of the system calls we make). The IDE and the programmer software use the same COMM routines so if one works, I expect the other will as well. If you try it, let us know the results. http://www.tech-tools.com

Your IDE runs under Linux using wine, it can also assemble the source code, but if I try to download the hex file, using a picstart plus programer there is a error. You use the function "EnableCommPortNotification", or some of the librarys you used (if you did). This function isn't yet implemented in wine. I wrote to the microchip-people if they could send me specifications how the communication between the picstart plus and the pc works. If they would send me the specs i could write a simple linux tool which could be used to download the hexfiles to the pic. but they didn't ... not bad for me ... bad for microchip ... the linux people won't love them On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, spam_OUTmathiasTakeThisOuTtech-tools.com wrote: {Quote hidden}> >We have not tried our IDE or programmer software under Wine so I do not >know if it will work. However, you can download it from our web site and >try it! I think you will find it very intuitive (assuming wine emulates >all of the system calls we make). > >The IDE and the programmer software use the same COMM routines so if one >works, I expect the other will as well. > >If you try it, let us know the results. > > http://www.tech-tools.com >

On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Bernhard Kraft wrote: > Your IDE runs under Linux using wine, it can also assemble the source > code, but if I try to download the hex file, using a picstart plus > programer there is a error. > > You use the function "EnableCommPortNotification", or some of the librarys > you used (if you did). This function isn't yet implemented in wine. I > wrote to the microchip-people if they could send me specifications how the > communication between the picstart plus and the pc works. If they would > send me the specs i could write a simple linux tool which could be used to > download the hexfiles to the pic. but they didn't ... not bad for me ... > bad for microchip ... the linux people won't love them I asked microchip for the specs too - about a year ago. They gave me the reasons why they couldn't release the specs. However, they have released both the code and the schematics for their picstart 16b programmer (not the picstart plus). Jim Robertson assures me that reverse engineering is not too difficult. Preliminary steps taken by a co-worker of mine confirm this. However, the difficult part is devoting the time to obtain all of the details. If you want, I'll try to pimp my co-worker into divulging what he's discovered. But we was basically able to use two pc's: one running Linux and the other windows (running mplab). He was able to use Linux as a comm-analyzer. The only thing though was that he was limited to half-duplex. This means he could only see what the pc was sending to the picstart OR what the picstart was sending to the pc. He couldn't see both at the same time. We suspect if he had two serial ports that he could capture all of the communication at once. This beats the hell out of using a DSO or logic analyzer. BTW, I'm linux person and I love Microchip :). Scott {Quote hidden}> > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, .....mathiasKILLspam@spam@tech-tools.com wrote: > > > > >We have not tried our IDE or programmer software under Wine so I do not > >know if it will work. However, you can download it from our web site and > >try it! I think you will find it very intuitive (assuming wine emulates > >all of the system calls we make). > > > >The IDE and the programmer software use the same COMM routines so if one > >works, I expect the other will as well. > > > >If you try it, let us know the results. > > > > http://www.tech-tools.com > > >

Pherhaps, if i find the time, i could use a windows pc running wine (like you) and another one running linux. one serial port of the linux box connected to the pc running wine and the other serial port connected to the picstart plus programer. so i could loop the data from the pc to the pic and reverse and could monitor all communication. Do you know if the programmer uses any handshake lines, and at which baud rate the programme works ? On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Scott Dattalo wrote: > >I asked microchip for the specs too - about a year ago. They gave me the >reasons why they couldn't release the specs. However, they have released >both the code and the schematics for their picstart 16b programmer (not >the picstart plus). >

On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:18:55 -0700, Scott Dattalo wrote: >windows (running mplab). He was able to use Linux as a comm-analyzer. The >only thing though was that he was limited to half-duplex. This means he >could only see what the pc was sending to the picstart OR what the >picstart was sending to the pc. He couldn't see both at the same time. We >suspect if he had two serial ports that he could capture all of the >communication at once. This beats the hell out of using a DSO or logic >analyzer. Was it only half-duplex because of Hardware limitations? If so then I have a book that has a schematic allowing you to hook both TX lines up to the RX line of another PC. That way you can see what both devices are sending as long as they don't both send at the same time. I seem to remember that it just isolates each TX line with a diode so that they can't drive each other. -- Richard A. Smith Bitworks, Inc. rsmithKILLspambitworks.com 501.521.3908 Sr. Design Engineer http://www.bitworks.com

To help me in my home projects, I just made two at89c2051 with a 20x4 LCD to do the nasty job of capture 2x RS232 and display it, just eliminated the "sometimes guessing games". A 32k RAM saves the captured data. Interface this solution to a PC parallel port and using any VB software to show it at the PC would be nice, of course using two PC serial ports can also be done, but it is not so exciting, and sometimes you just can't have IRQ's enough to deal with the interruptions at those serial ports. As this chip is running at high clock it was possible to implement a digital logic analyzer with 8 or more port bits, but, I belive it would lead me to more problems than solutions because it would never be fast enough, so I never did it. A nice HP1630G is not that expensive if you really need one (used is around $700). Wagner Lipnhasrki - Orlando, FL http://www.ustr.net "Richard A. Smith" wrote: {Quote hidden}> > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:18:55 -0700, Scott Dattalo wrote: > > >windows (running mplab). He was able to use Linux as a comm-analyzer. The > >only thing though was that he was limited to half-duplex. This means he > >could only see what the pc was sending to the picstart OR what the > >picstart was sending to the pc. He couldn't see both at the same time. We > >suspect if he had two serial ports that he could capture all of the > >communication at once. This beats the hell out of using a DSO or logic > >analyzer. > > Was it only half-duplex because of Hardware limitations? > If so then I have a book that has a schematic allowing you > to hook both TX lines up to the RX line of another PC. That > way you can see what both devices are sending as long as > they don't both send at the same time. > > I seem to remember that it just isolates each TX line with > a diode so that they can't drive each other.

Hi, I have had the same goal. Microchip did not reply me. However, there is a program running under DOS called COMMCHK18 or similar (I can send if needed) able to capture duplex communication if there are 2 comm ports on the snooping machine. Of course, one needs to solder a special "H" shaped cable to provide the result. I made also some snapshot, however, the result were rather disappointing for me. I could capture e. g. if I read a chip, however, there were a lot of bytes inserted could not be identified properly (maybe checksums). I suspended the project due to the lack of time. Regards, Imre On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Scott Dattalo wrote: {Quote hidden}> On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Bernhard Kraft wrote: > > > Your IDE runs under Linux using wine, it can also assemble the source > > code, but if I try to download the hex file, using a picstart plus > > programer there is a error. > > > > You use the function "EnableCommPortNotification", or some of the librarys > > you used (if you did). This function isn't yet implemented in wine. I > > wrote to the microchip-people if they could send me specifications how the > > communication between the picstart plus and the pc works. If they would > > send me the specs i could write a simple linux tool which could be used to > > download the hexfiles to the pic. but they didn't ... not bad for me ... > > bad for microchip ... the linux people won't love them > > I asked microchip for the specs too - about a year ago. They gave me the > reasons why they couldn't release the specs. However, they have released > both the code and the schematics for their picstart 16b programmer (not > the picstart plus). > > Jim Robertson assures me that reverse engineering is not too difficult. > Preliminary steps taken by a co-worker of mine confirm this. However, the > difficult part is devoting the time to obtain all of the details. If you > want, I'll try to pimp my co-worker into divulging what he's discovered. > But we was basically able to use two pc's: one running Linux and the other > windows (running mplab). He was able to use Linux as a comm-analyzer. The > only thing though was that he was limited to half-duplex. This means he > could only see what the pc was sending to the picstart OR what the > picstart was sending to the pc. He couldn't see both at the same time. We > suspect if he had two serial ports that he could capture all of the > communication at once. This beats the hell out of using a DSO or logic > analyzer. > > > BTW, I'm linux person and I love Microchip :). > > Scott > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, .....mathiasKILLspam.....tech-tools.com wrote: > > > > > > > >We have not tried our IDE or programmer software under Wine so I do not > > >know if it will work. However, you can download it from our web site and > > >try it! I think you will find it very intuitive (assuming wine emulates > > >all of the system calls we make). > > > > > >The IDE and the programmer software use the same COMM routines so if one > > >works, I expect the other will as well. > > > > > >If you try it, let us know the results. > > > > > > http://www.tech-tools.com > > > > > > >

Hi, I do not know whether programmer uses handshake lines (can be checked), and the setting is 19200,N,8,1. Imre On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Bernhard Kraft wrote: {Quote hidden}> Pherhaps, if i find the time, i could use a windows pc running wine (like > you) and another one running linux. one serial port of the linux box > connected to the pc running wine and the other serial port connected to > the picstart plus programer. so i could loop the data from the pc to the > pic and reverse and could monitor all communication. > > Do you know if the programmer uses any handshake lines, and at which baud > rate the programme works ? > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Scott Dattalo wrote: > > > > >I asked microchip for the specs too - about a year ago. They gave me the > >reasons why they couldn't release the specs. However, they have released > >both the code and the schematics for their picstart 16b programmer (not > >the picstart plus). > > > >