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'[OT] List improvement suggestion'
1999\10\08@141010 by Randy Brumbaugh

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One of the BIG problems here is the glut of irrelevant replies.

THE PROBLEM:
Some people on the PIClist have no sense of which of their silly opinions
might be interesting or appropriate to express in this forum.  These people
don't start threads, but they react and reply. . .  to nearly everything.

Similarly, some can't comprehend the difference between a private email and
a reply to the list -- one is sent only to the sender, the other to 1000+
people.  Difficult to determine if this is rudeness or ignorance.  No
matter really -- it affects me the same either way.

THE SUGGESTION:
What if the "Reply-to:" field contained the original sender's email address
instead of the list address?  The way it is now (at least with my email
reader) it is (too) easy to reply to the list, but takes some cutting and
pasting to reply privately to the sender.  I think reversing this might
help un-clog the list.  Replies would go to the sender unless the replier
took some time and made an explicit choice to make the list the
destination.  No knee jerk, one-liner replies to everyone.

I don't know how difficult this is, or even possible.

1999\10\08@142246 by Andy Kunz

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>THE PROBLEM:
>No matter really -- it affects me the same either way.

Sorry.  I guess nobody here realized that the world revolves around your
in-box.

>THE SUGGESTION:
>What if the "Reply-to:" field contained the original sender's email address
>instead of the list address?  The way it is now (at least with my email

This is a configuration setting on some (not all) e-mail programs.

Mark uses this feature, such as he did for the recent poll he conducted.
As I pointed out to you in private e-mails prior to this public one, this
is something which the user can do himself.  If his e-mail reader supports
it, and if (this is the bigger if <G>) he knows how and WANTS to do that.

If you feel you are being forced to read too many off topic e-mails, I
suggest you contact me private and I will explain to you how to fix this on
your side.  Since you are using Eudora Light v.3.0.6 it is very simple to
accomplish, but it seems that we have almost 1800 different e-mail programs
being used.

Andy

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1999\10\08@144254 by Randy Brumbaugh

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Ahhh. . . Andy here illustrates the problem of the "quick silly reply
syndrome" perfectly.  Sort of the poster child for the disease I would say.

I assume he means this as a joke.  Why else would he ignore or fail to
understand the main point, but still reply-- taking some of what I said out
of context, inventing some email exchange and babbling about reconfiguring
email programs, as if that was relevant.  (It isn't, of course).

The suggestion is (still) to make replying to the list somewhat harder than
replying to the original sender.

And no, my email program can't filter OT topics.  Not that I want it to.
Some OT are interesting.   And the replies that pollute this list are not
always in OT threads.

At 02:21 PM 10/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
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1999\10\08@160609 by William Chops Westfield

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The PICLIST sets the reply-to field to the list itself, assuming there
wasn't one already.  "Normally", there wouldn't be ANY reply-to field
in the headers, and the replier would have the choice of "reply to sender"
or "reply to all" - the first (usually the default) would only reply to
the original sender, instead of the whole list.  (because "reply-to"
overrides "sender" or "From")

This is a list server configuration issue, and it COULD be changed.

BillW

1999\10\08@165641 by Andy Kunz

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>understand the main point, but still reply-- taking some of what I said out
>of context, inventing some email exchange and babbling about reconfiguring
>email programs, as if that was relevant.  (It isn't, of course).

It is the solution, Randy.

As for fictitious e-mail exchange, I refer you to e-mails I sent in reply
to  you on 10/7/99 at 10:21PM and 10/8/99 at 11:07 AM.  Or do I need to
give you them with the originating mails you sent me, to refresh your short
memory?

>And no, my email program can't filter OT topics.  Not that I want it to.
>Some OT are interesting.   And the replies that pollute this list are not
>always in OT threads.

Since you insist the Eudora doesn't provide filters, I refer you to your
menu bar.  Select "Tools" under which you find "Filters."  Click on "New"
and it pops up a form you can fill in.  If you need help, I'm sure others
on this list can help you out.  I use Eudora Pro - you use the freeware
version.  But I started out using Light just like you are now.  You ought
to create mailboxes (see the Mailbox item on your menu bar) to store messages.

Sufficiently large numbers of us use [OT] (a mechanism we decided upon
voluntarily using on this list, long before your time it seems) that you
can reduce the content of your in basket just fine.  I use this mechanism
to route messages to about 16 different mailboxes (one of them being Trash)
so I don't need to sort them manually.

Or, you could just read the online manual.

Andy

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1999\10\08@190855 by Scott Dattalo

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On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Randy Brumbaugh wrote:

> Ahhh. . . Andy here illustrates the problem of the "quick silly reply
> syndrome" perfectly.  Sort of the poster child for the disease I would say.

Don't say I didn't tell you so (or at least that you were wasting your
time). Oh -woops did I forget to make this private... oh well.

This is my last pic list message.

good bye

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