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'[OT] Las Vegas Broadband?'
2007\10\25@230729 by Josh Koffman

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Hi all. Well, it looks like I'm going to be spending some time in Las
Vegas...about a year in fact.

One of the things I'll need for my apartment is broadband internet. So
far I think I've found AT&T offering DSL and Cox offering cable
access. I'm not interested in getting a home phone line or cable TV.
Cox wants an extra $10/month if you don't have TV...does AT&T have a
similar charge?

Are there any other options I might be able to use? I don't know
exactly where I'll be living in t the city just yet.

Thanks!

Josh
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2007\10\26@102949 by alan smith

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I'd say move in....and sniff for open or even closed wireless connections.  Then make some "friends" with someone that has a wireless router, even help pay for access.  Also, there may be some wireless repeaters around.  Problem is for most good deals, you have to sign up for 2 years, like cell phones.
 
 Or...find an apt that offers free internet as part of the move in package?  Some offer cable..not sure about net access.

Josh Koffman <spam_OUTjoshybearTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
 Hi all. Well, it looks like I'm going to be spending some time in Las
Vegas...about a year in fact.

One of the things I'll need for my apartment is broadband internet. So
far I think I've found AT&T offering DSL and Cox offering cable
access. I'm not interested in getting a home phone line or cable TV.
Cox wants an extra $10/month if you don't have TV...does AT&T have a
similar charge?

Are there any other options I might be able to use? I don't know
exactly where I'll be living in t the city just yet.

Thanks!

Josh
--
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
-Douglas Adams

2007\10\26@122703 by Josh Koffman

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On 10/26/07, alan smith <.....micro_eng2KILLspamspam@spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'd say move in....and sniff for open or even closed wireless connections.  Then make some "friends" with someone that has a wireless router, even help pay for access.  Also, there may be some wireless repeaters around.  Problem is for most good deals, you have to sign up for 2 years, like cell phones.
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>   Or...find an apt that offers free internet as part of the move in package?  Some offer cable..not sure about net access.

I'd like to start using Vonage for my home phone service which means
I'll have to secure something a bit more reliable than free wifi.

I'll have to look into getting it as a bonus somehow, I was really
curious if there are more than just the two companies offering
service.

Thanks!

Josh
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2007\10\26@125830 by alan smith

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Pretty sure that Qwest is down in LV.  I use DSL from them, not sure if you need a land line tho...so thus I can see why you want a cable modem connection.

Josh Koffman <joshybearspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:  On 10/26/07, alan smith wrote:
> I'd say move in....and sniff for open or even closed wireless connections. Then make some "friends" with someone that has a wireless router, even help pay for access. Also, there may be some wireless repeaters around. Problem is for most good deals, you have to sign up for 2 years, like cell phones.
>
> Or...find an apt that offers free internet as part of the move in package? Some offer cable..not sure about net access.

I'd like to start using Vonage for my home phone service which means
I'll have to secure something a bit more reliable than free wifi.

I'll have to look into getting it as a bonus somehow, I was really
curious if there are more than just the two companies offering
service.

Thanks!

Josh
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A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
-Douglas Adams

2007\10\26@132101 by Herbert Graf

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On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 09:58 -0700, alan smith wrote:
> Pretty sure that Qwest is down in LV.  I use DSL from them, not sure if you need a land line tho...so thus I can see why you want a cable modem connection.

Isn't it possible to get DSL without landline voice service in the
States? That's what I've got here in Canada.

Thanks, TTYL

2007\10\26@135030 by Michael Dipperstein

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> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 09:58 -0700, alan smith wrote:
> > Pretty sure that Qwest is down in LV.  I use DSL from them, not sure
if
> you need a land line tho...so thus I can see why you want a cable
modem
> connection.
>
> Isn't it possible to get DSL without landline voice service in the
> States? That's what I've got here in Canada.
>
> Thanks, TTYL

It's been a while since I was in the DLS business, but Qwest had
something that they were marketing as called Naked DSL, which is ADSL
w/o POTS.  However, Las Vegas isn't a Qwest territory.  As far as I
know, all the other telcos require some kind of voice service for
ADSL/VDSL.  You could probably get a T1 or a data only ISDN line, but
that costs a more for less bandwidth.

I guess the answer to Herbert's question is that it depends on where you
live.

-Mike

2007\10\26@205631 by PicDude

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I use Verizon cellular broadband on my laptop (PCMCIA card) which provides me
DSL-ish speeds for $80/month.  (It's $60/month is you also have cell-phone
service with Verizon).  Yes, cable or DSL costs less, but this option saves
me money on having to search for hotels/motels with internet access, or
having to deal with connection issues at 1am when I get into those hotels,
and I can get the same access almost *anywhere*.  Now I work from the beach
at times and I can pull over on the highway to check mapquest, etc.  I know
that's not really what you need, but it's an option.

BTW, I just heard that Sprint's cellular broadband is a bit faster and costs
$45/month, so I might have to try them again even though I ditched them for
poor customer service in the past.

Cheers,
-Neil.


On Thursday 25 October 2007 22:07, Josh Koffman wrote:
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2007\10\27@012248 by Nate Duehr

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On Oct 26, 2007, at 7:57 PM, PicDude wrote:

> BTW, I just heard that Sprint's cellular broadband is a bit faster  
> and costs
> $45/month, so I might have to try them again even though I ditched  
> them for
> poor customer service in the past.


The technology that Verizon and Sprint are using is virtually the  
same.  Any speed differences on both of their CDMA networks is either  
related to load or your location in relation to their fixed (towers)  
infrastructure locations.

Sprint's cheaper and their terms-of-service are both friendlier and  
they're less likely to terminate your service for a large download and/
or other "abuses" of bandwidth.

Verizon has sent a lot of letters to customers who download a lot on  
their mobile service, terminating their service for "abuse"...  
rediculous really, considering how they market the system as mobile  
broadband, on all the time.  Reading their TOS you'd think the thing  
would actually blow up and injure passersby if you downloaded a CD ISO  
image of Linux through it.

Personally, I would avoid Verizon for both pricing and "evilness"  
reasons, and make that switch back to Sprint if their coverage is  
adequate for your needs.

Sprint wants you to use the system as a mobile broadband connection.  
Verizon wants to use it to push you music videos and other pay-as-you-
go crap, and if you "abuse" the bandwidth (e.g. they can't send you  
Beyonce' videos) you'll be asked to leave the network.

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Nate Duehr
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