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2011\11\16@014538 by Electron

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A true example of (truly well, unlike e.g. military) Applied Technology!!:
https://www.innocentive.com/dual-use-grid-illumination-device

"Two billion people living in the developing world rely on kerosene lanterns, candles, and single-use battery flashlights for light at night. Kerosene is increasingly expensive, especially given the recent rise in the price of petrochemicals, so many families cannot afford it." [..] "His solution went in to production within a year of submission -- providing light for hundreds of thousands of individuals since."

Guess who's the genius and philanthropist behind this?

The name I've read on the article sure rang a bell!

Cheers,
Mario

2011\11\16@022232 by V G

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Electron <spam_OUTelectron2k4TakeThisOuTspaminfinito.it> wrote:

>
> A true example of (truly well, unlike e.g. military) Applied Technology!!:
> https://www.innocentive.com/dual-use-grid-illumination-device
>
> "Two billion people living in the developing world rely on kerosene
> lanterns, candles, and single-use battery flashlights for light at night.
> Kerosene is increasingly expensive, especially given the recent rise in the
> price of petrochemicals, so many families cannot afford it." [..] "His
> solution went in to production within a year of submission -- providing
> light for hundreds of thousands of individuals since."
>
> Guess who's the genius and philanthropist behind this?
>
> The name I've read on the article sure rang a bell!
>
> Cheers,
> Mario



Mad props to Mr. M yo

2011\11\16@024730 by RussellMc

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> A true example of (truly well, unlike e.g. military) Applied Technology!!:
> https://www.innocentive.com/dual-use-grid-illumination-device

A lot more and somewhat less to that than meets the eye, as one may imagine..
Not much genius evident in that embarrassingly rough cct diagram :-).
(And where DID they get that photo ? :-) !!!)

While not without its moments the core electronic design is the very
very least past of getting something like that from paper to eg here

            http://public.fotki.com/RussellMc/atw/bogo/sl2africa01/?view=roll

That "CHALLENGE"  was late IN 2007 and since then that project has
scrambled my life totally.

> "Two billion people living in the developing world rely on kerosene lanterns, candles, and single-use battery flashlights for light at night. Kerosene is increasingly expensive, especially given the recent rise in the price of petrochemicals, so many families cannot afford it." [..] "His solution went in to production within a year of submission -- providing light for hundreds of thousands of individuals since."

I'm hopeful that a lot more good may yet come as a result of this but
so far it's still very uncertain. It's not an easy path.

> Guess who's the genius and philanthropist behind this?

It's not my company - I'm the designer and, as things worked out,
quite a lot more besides. If anyone wants to know about making things
in China ... :-) :-(       / If I knew then what I know now.  The
client is an American who very likely rues the day he ever started
along this path.



    Russell

2011\11\16@090700 by Carey Fisher

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"Russell's design is changing lives all around the world."

Wow! Congratulations Russell!  This is such an impressive achievement, I
can't find words (or bytes) that sufficiently express my admiration.

Carey Fisher
Chief Technical Officer
New Communications Solutions, LLC
678-999-3956
.....careyfisherKILLspamspam@spam@ncsradio.co

2011\11\16@112334 by Alex Harford

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Carey Fisher <careyfisherspamKILLspamncsradio.com> wrote:
> "Russell's design is changing lives all around the world."
>
> Wow! Congratulations Russell!  This is such an impressive achievement, I
> can't find words (or bytes) that sufficiently express my admiration.

Maybe a credit card # would be a reasonable approximation?

http://www.bogolight.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BoGoGeneralMini

:)

Is there an ETA on the S2?

2011\11\16@131351 by YES NOPE9

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Awesome photo
Awesome dude
Thank you for adding so much value to the human experienc


'[OT] Just found this by accident'
2012\01\09@062840 by RussellMc
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On 16 November 2011 20:46, not-me-despite-what-it-said  wrote:
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> > A true example of (truly well, unlike e.g. military) Applied Technology!!:
> > https://www.innocentive.com/dual-use-grid-illumination-device

Strange world.

In the real world I can probably risk getting in trouble saying the following
So I'll try to say it carefully.
In an ideal world it wouldn't need saying at all

Here is a webpage with images of some solar lights on it.

         http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/522825132/long_distance_led_flashlight.html

The lights are very familiar to me.
Very.
It seems that these may be made with the mold used to make lights that
I am familiar with. That mold was owned by my US client. Still is as
far as I know.

I do not know the company name of the people advertising them.
But I have spent many interesting weeks of my life at a company with a
different name at exactly the same address in Qingdao in China.

The specs of these lights are interesting.
They seem to have high lumen versions and tactical versions and long
distance versions, but they all seem to have the same technical
specifications.
Not that I can tell how they can manage to achieve some of the claimed
specifications.
It is good to see that their light source lasts 10 years.
That's certainly far far far far longer than the light source would
have lasted for lights from the factory at the same address if they
had used the LEDs that they wanted to use.
Apparently  the different named factory has learned how to use quality LEDs.

I see they are using epoxy covered PV panels.
Long ago we decided this was not the best material to use.
Maybe they have found a much better type of epoxy to use.

I see they are CE Rohs ISO9001 certified.
Maybe Rohs is not the same as ROHS.
It was back then and may still be now. But maybe not.
They are doing very well to have obtained ISO9001 certification.
Definitely commendable.

The white versions are interesting.
They appear to have the same US company name on them in the photos
(who can be sure of Alibaba's graphics?) as the name of a US company
who sells identical looking lights which are currently being sold in
the US. The pricing of the white lights in the US is quite a lot
different than the price being advertised on this site. Quite a bit. I
understand that they say that they give a small sum to a charity for
every white light sold. Commendable. If the white lights being made in
this factory were the same as the ones with the name of the US company
on them which are shown on this site then I would think that calling
them thieves and scum and other interesting names would not be
inappropriate. However, I understand  that smart US lawyers employed
by companies who have names strikingly similar to those shown here
believe that they have demonstrated that buying lights like this and
selling them in the US is entirely legal and defensible. I do not
think that lawyers need to deal in ethical, moral or "being reasonable
human beings" aspects. So I guess all is well.

The lights shown here
www.alibaba.com/product-gs/521037439/super_bright_long_life_span_led/showimage.html?newId=523493195&pn=4&pt=10&t=12&cids=
Is interesting. It is not like all the others shown.  I used to be
involved with making lights that look stunningly like that one when I
used to visit the factory at the same address as the company that is
advertising it now. I suspect they may not actually sell this light as
the company seemed to have difficulty in making it by themselves
without exterior input after the prior manager and most of the staff
left and went somewhere else some while ago, which was some while
after I stopped visiting there.

I wonder how  the average feel-good US buyers of the white lights
would feel if they knew all the 'might be's'  and 'appear to be's' and
"amazingly similar to's" that I know of?




  Russell

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